From: owner-sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org (sheryl-crew-digest) To: sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org Subject: sheryl-crew-digest V2 #335 Reply-To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org Sender: owner-sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sheryl-crew-digest Wednesday, September 29 1999 Volume 02 : Number 335 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [sheryl-crew] Sheryl on CNN Millenium [DParr122@aol.com] Re: [sheryl-crew] Sheryl's stage fright [DParr122@aol.com] [sheryl-crew] Re: sheryl-crew-digest V2 #333 [Mauseee@aol.com] Re: [sheryl-crew] suggestion EXCELLENT MARIANA ["Diego D. Novak" ] [sheryl-crew] Fan club + F J Rhoden ["Sam" ] [sheryl-crew] sheryl crew ( sam ) ["Spin spin sugar girlie" ] [sheryl-crew] Re: sheryl-crew-digest V2 #334 [Mitch ] Re: [sheryl-crew] Fan club [XMystery79@aol.com] Re: [sheryl-crew] Sheryl's stage fright [=?iso-8859-1?Q?=A7=2B=40r=20G=AE] [sheryl-crew] MARTHA ARGERICH!!!!!! ["Diego D. Novak" ] Re: [sheryl-crew] sheryl words ["Diego D. Novak" ] Re: [sheryl-crew] MARTHA ARGERICH!!!!!! [Bob Stell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:28:01 EDT From: DParr122@aol.com Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] Sheryl on CNN Millenium It seems that Sheryl was telling the truth on CNN. Music is the universal language and healer. Sheryl is one of the best at it too! Dave P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:34:51 EDT From: DParr122@aol.com Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] Sheryl's stage fright I agree with you, I have to get up in front of people I know and lead the meeting after three years of this I still get nervous and if there's a camera I try to get done as quick as possible, so go for it Sheryl clear them out. Lety her mind run free without worrying about the audiences reactions. Dave P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:39:10 EDT From: Mauseee@aol.com Subject: [sheryl-crew] Re: sheryl-crew-digest V2 #333 I also love "Sad Sad World"---it is one of my favorites! So glad you mentioned it because I got it out and played it right away. Also, my guitar teacher has tried to work out the chords for me to play it---it is the strumming that will be hard to do. Just thought I would add that... Michelle in NYC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:34:33 -0300 From: "Diego D. Novak" Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] suggestion EXCELLENT MARIANA I really loved the idea from my brazilian friend. That would be so great, sheryl would love it. Let´s start working on it. Lisa, what so you say? diego, the best argentine fan who gave her a rose! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:37:17 -0300 From: "Diego D. Novak" Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] suggestion Jason - take it easy. if you dont like the idea, just forget it, you are not obligated to be in THE WORLD FAN CLUB diego > ----- Original Message ----- > From: F. Jason Rhoden > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] suggestion > > > > I've noticed a trend in most messages that approve overwhelmingly of the > > idea of a "Sheryl Crow World Fan Club". Seems that, generally, the ones > who > > like it the most are the ones who see themselves as the head of their > > country, or their names in liner notes or something. > > > > I myself think it's not so great of an idea. Did you ever think of how > much > > money membership cards, et cetera would cost? And how would the national > > heads or whatever be determined? > > > > It's whomever wants to do it's business, but I myself would much rather > have > > the decentralized free-for-all that is the list be the best representation > > of Sheryl fandom. > > > > Regards, > > F. Jason Rhoden > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:58:38 +0100 From: "Sam" Subject: [sheryl-crew] Fan club + F J Rhoden I am not vying to be the UK 'head' of a world fan-club or anything yet I do think an organised, international fan club does have its benifits and is a good idea. Its patronising to suggest that peoples agreement that there should be a fan club is based on some sort of want for recognition and power (that in itself isnt always a bad thing!). I think that whether or not you think a fan club is a good idea is down to whther or not you want to stand out of the crowd as a fan. Not all people want to and thats there choice, but sometimes people want something tangiable to show their fanhood of Sheryl Crow, something more than owning her albums and singles as approx. 15 million people do yet most wouldnt describe themselves as fans. Ok, so an organised fan-club may be expensive and time consuming, but only depending on how it is approached. It seems that most well organised fan-clubs are ones where record companies/artists have joined forces to create one, or rather where fans have approached the record companies and sought advice and help. I personally think this is the best way to do it. Someone needs to approach her record company with the idea. It also seems to be jumping the gun to be arranging an organisational structure as of yet, and in my mind, what is needed is a small number of people to set about setting something up and dealing with the record company before launching it internationally or anything!!! sam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:25:28 +0100 From: "Spin spin sugar girlie" Subject: [sheryl-crew] sheryl crew ( sam ) hear hear ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:50:54 EDT From: HILARYL123@aol.com Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] Fan club In a message dated 9/28/99 3:34:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sam@jessa.globalnet.co.uk writes: << personally think this is the best way to do it. Someone needs to approach her record company with the idea. It also seems to be jumping the gun to be arranging an organisational structure as of yet, and in my mind, what is needed is a small number of people to set about setting something up and dealing with the record company before launching it internationally or anything!!! >> Hey there . I work for Atlantic Records dealing with artist promotions and I know that it's definitely a good idea to get companies behind you to get something of this sort running . Plus, once you establish a working relationship with them you will be provided with accurate information before other sources, etc. However, that's only if the record company is willing to take part in it . In order for it to work , they must be approached in a very professional manner and understand what they will gain (sorry , but they do care about these things) from working with the group. I've never spearheaded anything like this before , so I don't know if it would be most effective to approach the record company or her publicist (who is not affiliated with the record company and is ALWAYS busy b/c she deals w/ lots of bigger name artists ). If I can find anything out , I'll be more than happy to help those of you who are interested in pursuing this idea. However , due to time constraints on this end that's about all I can do without losing my mind :-) Off to work - Hilary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:48:53 -0400 From: "F. Jason Rhoden" Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] Fan club + F J Rhoden + Sam By the way, for all you viewers out there in e mail land, I was not the one who put my name in the header, it was Sam. I personally am flattered, and have returned the favor to my fellow fan on the other side of the pond. >Its patronising to suggest that peoples agreement that there should be a fan >club is based on some sort of want for recognition and power (that in itself >isnt always a bad thing!). I was not suggesting that the majority of supporters for the club were bent on power, but that the majority of messages approving of the idea also included a little note saying that they would like to be heads of their nation. The biggest proponents were asking to be "national heads". You can go back through the achives and see the state of mails on the subject before my message, and the messages which mentioned who would be the head of a nation were by far outnumbering the general approval ones. Thankfully, it has balanced out in the last day or so, so this no longer really reflects the state of debate on the club. By the way, patronizing (or, in English English, "patronising") means "to behave in an offensively condescending manner towards". My message wasn't condescending about "world rulers" it was just a statement of fact (that the majority of the messages dealing with the topic were attempting to deal with the topic of leaders before the club even existed). I won't define condescending for fear of being condescending. However, other than the patronizing point, I agree with your message wholeheartedly. (And you know how rarely that happens, Sam). Somebody from Italy (sorry, I forget the name) said that they run a fan club there and that the best way to do an international one would be to set up small ones, and at some point have those clubs join forces to be the international group. That is a million and one times more sane than just running out and starting the international fanclub this afternoon. Regards, F. Jason Rhoden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:01:07 -0400 From: "F. Jason Rhoden" Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] suggestion >Jason - take it easy. >if you dont like the idea, just forget it, you are not obligated to be in >THE WORLD FAN CLUB >diego > All you conspiracy theorists out there, see how it already has become "THE WORLD FAN CLUB"!! (The previous sentence was a joke, by the way). Deigo, I don't think that the idea of an organized fanclub is neccessarily bad, I just think that this would be the totally wrong way to go about it. Why not do as our Italian friend whose name escapes me has done, and establish a regional fan club. Later, if these clubs turn out to be successful, they could be merged or federalized into "THE WORLD FAN CLUB". But going out tomorrow with the design of establishing the international club would probably not be your best course of action. And I never said I was obligated to be in "the world fan club", I was simply making a point to those who were undecided on the idea about the fact that I felt it was being done in a manner which would doom it. I am allowed to voice my opinion, and present facts to support it, right?. In fact, if the club could be done successfully, I'd be happy to be a member of such a club. But drawing up a charter for a world fan club now would, without the neccessary support system of already established regional clubs, and/or the money of Interscope/A&M/Polygram/whatever-it's-called-around-the-world would hurt its chances of success greatly. Don't be so ambitious, or at least, don't be so ambitious yet. Start with regional groups, then see how it works. Fan clubs are very time consuming and expensive. There would hardly be a point to an international one if it was unable to fund its own activities. Surely even the most ardent one-clubbers would agree to that. Regards, F. Jason Rhoden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:14:18 +0200 From: Mitch Subject: [sheryl-crew] Re: sheryl-crew-digest V2 #334 sheryl-crew-digest wrote: > I just read that when Sheryl taped her episode of THE NAKED TRUTH, she > > insisted that the entire studio audience clear out. What a wuss. > > DAVID > Don't you think that, by now Sheryl knows how to deal with stage fright. Maybe she had an alterior motive for doing what she did? Is the song particularly meaningful to her? Do you believe everything you read? I agree with Phyl. And I wonder, have you ever tried to speak in front of 200 ppl? Don't judge if you don't know... PARTY ON 'Sunshine Sally' Mitch-ö ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:42:39 EDT From: XMystery79@aol.com Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] Fan club I don't necessarily think that this Idea is the best way to have a fan club ... When I look at other artists who have Official Clubs, like the Dave Matthews Band or Sarah Mclachlan, they are professionally run, and you get things like heads up on concert tickets and a CD, T-shirt stuff like that..That's the kind of club I want to join, one that her label behind. Because one run by the fans, what would that offer? We already get all the latest up to date Sheryl news, and I don't think that a fan run club would be able to offer things like exclusive CDs, posters, T-shirts etc.. That's just my . 02¢ on the subject.. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------ .........We've got loud guitars and quiet suspicions, great big guns and small ambitions, and we still argue over who is God............. - -Sheryl Crow, Hard to Make a Stand Sheryl Crow: IMYH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:22:32 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A7=2B=40r=20G=AE=AE=AEL?= Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] Sheryl's stage fright some guy with too much time on his hands wrote: > I just read that when Sheryl taped her episode of THE NAKED TRUTH, she > insisted that the entire studio audience clear out. What a wuss. > > DAVID Two words: GROW UP. Michele - -- "Music really is the great healer." ~ Sheryl Crow http://welcome.to/SherylCrow~IShallBelieve icq: 21761301 / aol im: d m b grrrl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:31:53 -0300 From: "Diego D. Novak" Subject: [sheryl-crew] MARTHA ARGERICH!!!!!! I have just returned from the COLON THEATRE! I GAVE A ROSE IN FRONT OF 5000 PEOPLE to the best pianist in the world in the history of classical music, MARTHA ARGERICH!!!!! IM DYINGGGGGGª!!!!!!!!!!! WE SHOOK HANDS!!!! diego ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:34:38 -0300 From: "Diego D. Novak" Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] sheryl words > "Music really is the great healer." ~ Sheryl Crow sheryl said that? cool, yeudi menuhin always believed in that.... diego - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] Fan club > I don't necessarily think that this Idea is the best way to have a fan club > ... When I look at other artists who have Official Clubs, like the Dave > Matthews Band or Sarah Mclachlan, they are professionally run, and you get > things like heads up on concert tickets and a CD, T-shirt stuff like > that..That's the kind of club I want to join, one that her label behind. > Because one run by the fans, what would that offer? We already get all the > latest up to date Sheryl news, and I don't think that a fan run club would be > able to offer things like exclusive CDs, posters, T-shirts etc.. That's just > my . 02¢ on the subject.. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- > ------------------ > .........We've got loud guitars and quiet suspicions, great big guns and > small ambitions, and we still argue over who is God............. > -Sheryl Crow, Hard to Make a Stand > Sheryl Crow: > IMYH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:33:58 -0500 From: Bob Stell Subject: Re: [sheryl-crew] MARTHA ARGERICH!!!!!! Sheryl would be thrilled........... "Diego D. Novak" wrote: > I have just returned from the COLON THEATRE! > I GAVE A ROSE IN FRONT OF 5000 PEOPLE to the best pianist in the world in > the history of classical music, > MARTHA ARGERICH!!!!! > IM DYINGGGGGGª!!!!!!!!!!! WE SHOOK HANDS!!!! > > diego - -- Bob Vote at my web site: "Stellini's Hero's & Turds List" http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9871/ ------------------------------ End of sheryl-crew-digest V2 #335 *********************************