From: owner-sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org (sheryl-crew-digest) To: sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org Subject: sheryl-crew-digest V2 #173 Reply-To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org Sender: owner-sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sheryl-crew-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sheryl-crew-digest Wednesday, May 26 1999 Volume 02 : Number 173 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: talking about mags ["Nadine" ] Re: Courtney Love on Sheryl (Offish) ["Christina Clark" ] Re: Maxim photos ["Martin Oliver" ] Re: All the fuss about this Sheryl picture [AngelLieb@aol.com] Re: It's Sheryl's body [SCrow816@aol.com] Think she had approval? [Jason Roth ] Re: It's Sheryl's body ["Michael L. Rogers" ] Re: It's Sheryl's body ["Michael L. Rogers" ] Re: It's Sheryl's body [Chris Ketchum ] question [ImSlug@aol.com] Re: It's Sheryl's body [Chris Ketchum ] Re: Courtney Love on Sheryl (Offish) [Harinder_GREWAL@MCD.gov.sg] Re: It's Sheryl's body ["David Ribeiro" ] Re: question ["David Ribeiro" ] Re: Maxim(um) Sheryl pt. 2 [Chris Ketchum ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:04:59 +0100 From: "Nadine" Subject: Re: talking about mags Yeah Judith I remember that.... i couldnt believe it I was so shocked, I mean how could she show an ankle..... what is she doing!!!!!! Does she have no respect lol ;o) Nadine > Hey I heard remember there was that magazine was it classic rock or some > affair that was doing a Sheryl Crow piece ( fully clothed I except maybe for > the slight glimpse of an ankle LOL ) can any UKERS remember > > Please forgive me :( I am leading a simple like at the mo > > Ohhh nasty dreams of rocks :( ( not drugs though > > > Judith > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:11:42 -0400 From: "Christina Clark" Subject: Re: Courtney Love on Sheryl (Offish) I know Courtney has a reputation of being a little bratty, however I couldn't care less. If it doesn't prevent her from producing her awesome music then who cares. I do however wish she would be a little more civilized!:o) Christina - -----Original Message----- From: J. O' Connor To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org Date: May 26, 1999 1:57 PM Subject: Re: Courtney Love on Sheryl (Offish) >I was gonna stay silent about this, but I cannot stand Courtney Love. It has >nothing to do about whether she killed Kurt, don't know, don't care, or even >Hole's music. I bought the single Celebrity Skin because I thought it was >very good. Having said that, I just have always had an irrational dislike of >her. Until she was on the Ozone over here doing an interview. She was asked >a pretty run of the mill question to start it off and she just replied "Ask >us smart questions, we're smart people" in a really snotty, whiney voice. >Then she was asked "Where are Hole musically now?" and she started ranting >about how they would have to be more specific with the questions and refused >to answer. The whole way through she acted as if this interview was >something below her and just was really, really, unpleasant and bratty. The >other two members of Hole just sat on either side laughing as if they were >her cronies. It just totally reinforced my dislike of her and I think she >has a serious superiority complex as well as being rude and awkward. > If she was going to do an interview she might as well make an effort, >perhaps she's aiming for a certain public, I don't know but she really >doesn't impress me at all. Just as a counterpoint I should say once again >that I do like Hole's music but I can't stand her personally. Oh, and I do >have a bit of a thang for the interviewer, Jayne Middlemiss, but that had >very little to do with my opinion of Courtney. I don't speak for anyone else >though and maybe she just had a bad day. > >Louis > >-----Original Message----- >From: SonicTonix@aol.com >To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org >Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:32 AM >Subject: Courtney Love on Sheryl > > >>There is a brief story on Courtney Love in this week's Entertainment >Weekly. >>Love says she prefers the company of artists with "integrity" such as >Sheryl >>Crow rather than Marilyn Manson. If Courtney likes you, you gotta be good! >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:15:24 -0400 From: "Christina Clark" Subject: Re: Maxim photos First off, Sheryl is NOT MADONNA!!!!!! I can't emphasize that enough, secondly, if Sheryl wanted to do this photo, fine, that's great for her, but why Maxim??? I don't know what Maxim in the UK is like, but it seems fairly trashy to me. And since the picture is over and done with that's fine too, but I do not congratulate her. Christina - -----Original Message----- From: Sherylcrew@aol.com To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org Date: May 26, 1999 2:10 PM Subject: Maxim photos >hello, > MY OPINION: > >first of all it is NOT a trashy magazine >It has a serious 7 page interview in it >It has LOTS of pictures, only one revealing a tiny bit of her if you look >really carefully >I think It is very brave of her to do this >Most stars get famous by appearing FULLY naked in films or something, >so to do it after she was famous was probably the rebel in her, a little bit >daring. > >COME ON, Madonna does this type of thing EVERY week > >I think you are too conservative >SHE WANTED TO DO IT AND I CONGRATULATE HER > >from > .TOM. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:25:49 +0100 From: "Martin Oliver" Subject: Re: Maxim photos Yes it is a trashy magazine, the issue with Sheryl in came with a lovely free supplement titled How To Be A Sex God with articles Get two women in bed, make your own porn film , be an s&m master, amongst many others. There is also a large pictorial of sports injuries and included a photo of a man losing his arm. There are some serious articles but the magazine is sold on it's sexual and bizzare content I am not against mens interest magazines and buy GQ or FHM, but Maxim is aimed in the UK at a somewhat different readership. I am dissapointed with the pictures as they are not particulary flattering and quite seedy and I happen to think an attractive woman like Sheryl could have done better. It will not affect my appreciation of her music but I cannot say the same for her integrity. I cannot imagine Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Sarah Maclachlan etc doing something like it. It smacks too much of Madonna or Ms Love and will do little to help her great music be treated with the respect it deserves. Just my opinion, so don't flame me!!! Martin who is still a Crow fan, if a little dissapointed. - -----Original Message----- From: Sherylcrew@aol.com To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:06 PM Subject: Maxim photos >hello, > MY OPINION: > >first of all it is NOT a trashy magazine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:52:46 EDT From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: Re: All the fuss about this Sheryl picture Dave wrote: "Why is everyone making a stink over the pictures. In case you did not notice on the cover of the 1996 rollingstone the dress she is wearing is see threw to." The way I think of this cover is Sheryl is wearing a see thru dress with a beige slip dress underneath. What about that dress she wore for the '97 Grammys? No one has been raising hell over that one. Anyhoo....I can't think of anything to say about all this fuss that's going on with this picture. I haven't seen it yet and I don't intend to either. You had the choice of checking out the link or just skip it and head to the next post. Katie ();) "Show me what you haven't seen," Liz Phair. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:00:21 EDT From: SCrow816@aol.com Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body thats kool chessa i respect your opinion it is a very good one thats the way you feel at least you didnt private e-mail me and say i have the mentality of a third grader like some one else i won't mention you know who you are ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:33:17 -0400 From: Jason Roth Subject: Think she had approval? The only picture that I've seen is the one that's on the following link: http://www.Keg.com/HyperNews2/get/daiapc41/19938.html and I'm sorry, but that's just a horrible picture of her. My question is: Do you think that she approved this picture?? The rest of the photos associated with the article may be very nice, but since this is the only one that I've seen, this is what I'm basing my judgement on. The decision to do a saucy photo session is totally up to her, and I have no problem with that decision, but she should at least make sure that they print a flattering photo. But let me also say that this picture doesn't make me love her any less. :) BTW, I'm new to the list, and I'm enjoying it so far. I just saw Sheryl in Detroit a few weeks ago (what a fun show) and I'm looking forward to Lilith (2 shows in Detroit). Bye--Jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:40:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael L. Rogers" Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body Oh, just go ahead and say it, you twit. It seems that you have lost the distinction of separating the differences between a fan and one who idolizes someone. Idolize who you wish; it makes no difference to me. And - you know who you are - no one said that you had the mentality of a third-grader. I guess that you - oops - also forgot that it was indeed a private email. Whine and bitch about taking it to private messages, and what do you do? But, hey, what can you expect from a person who has a shrine to a damn singer in their house.... ****************************************************************************** "...And I hear them saying 'You'll never change things, And no matter what you do it's still the same thing.' But it's not the world that I am changing- I do this so this world will know that it will not change me." --Garth Brooks "The Change" ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:45:00 -0700 From: Chris Ketchum Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body At 10:51 AM 5/26/99 -0500, Michael wrote: >I have my Bachelor of Science in Journalism and Bachelor of Arts in >English and both teach that it is only considered proper to capitalize >the pronouns "Her" and "She" when referring to a diety. Too Bad They Didn't Teach You The Meaning Of The Word "Ungenerous". >Is Sheryl Crow, a human the last time I checked, definitely one after seeing >the Maxim pic, a diety now? Naw. She's Just Rocks Our World. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:44:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael L. Rogers" Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body On Wed, 26 May 1999, David Ribeiro wrote: > You need to chill out, no one here gives a damn if their English is proper, > wtf cares ? Sheryl is our idol, so we'll capitalize ANYTHING we damn please. No blanket statements, please...Sheryl is *not* my idol...I love her music, and I think that she is a great person. However, that does not mean she is my idol. ****************************************************************************** "...And I hear them saying 'You'll never change things, And no matter what you do it's still the same thing.' But it's not the world that I am changing- I do this so this world will know that it will not change me." --Garth Brooks "The Change" ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:59:46 -0700 From: Chris Ketchum Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body At 11:04 AM 5/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >Ummm, okay... >So when are we going to see "Her" church? "Her" Bible? >--Michael Probably a hell of alot sooner than we are going to see your Sheryl interview. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:21:12 -0700 From: Chris Ketchum Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body At 01:49 PM 5/26/99 -0500, Michael wrote: >Uh-huh...and obsessive fans like you are the ones that kept Sheryl >virtually locked in her dressing room one night because an obsessive fan >wanted to see her. Are you sure it wasn't because she heard that you might be there? >You have it wrong; only well-rounded individuals who >are fans but not those who live by the very words she speaks should be >able to go backstage. >Hmmm...like me. Yeah, she'd much rather have someone like you backstage. You know....someone that has her autograph a bunch of stuff so it can be sold on e-bay. Chris BTW, that last sentence of yours is missing a comma, or two. Normally I wouldn't mention it, but I know how particular you are. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:19:05 EDT From: ImSlug@aol.com Subject: question I was just wondering where my mail would go if I accidently sent it to sheryl-crew@smoe.com, which is what I stupidly did. Jackie =Þ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:26:34 -0700 From: Chris Ketchum Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body At 08:00 PM 5/26/99 EDT, SCrow816 wrote: >thats kool chessa i respect your opinion it is a very good one thats the way >you feel at least you didnt private e-mail me and say i have the mentality of >a third grader like some one else i won't mention you know who you are In my best Richard Dawson/Family Feud voice: Survey says....... Michael! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:26:46 +0800 From: Harinder_GREWAL@MCD.gov.sg Subject: Re: Courtney Love on Sheryl (Offish) She was very civil on the David Letterman show recently, though. The only interview of hers I've seen, and thought it was ok... Twas only then I realised shes bigger physically than I'd thought before, I'd always thought she was tiny, like Sheryl. owner-sheryl-crew@smoe.org on 27/05/99 07:16:53 Please respond to sheryl-crew@smoe.org @ SMTP To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org @ SMTP cc: Subject: Re: Courtney Love on Sheryl (Offish) I know Courtney has a reputation of being a little bratty, however I couldn't care less. If it doesn't prevent her from producing her awesome music then who cares. I do however wish she would be a little more civilized!:o) Christina - -----Original Message----- From: J. O' Connor To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org Date: May 26, 1999 1:57 PM Subject: Re: Courtney Love on Sheryl (Offish) >I was gonna stay silent about this, but I cannot stand Courtney Love. It has >nothing to do about whether she killed Kurt, don't know, don't care, or even >Hole's music. I bought the single Celebrity Skin because I thought it was >very good. Having said that, I just have always had an irrational dislike of >her. Until she was on the Ozone over here doing an interview. She was asked >a pretty run of the mill question to start it off and she just replied "Ask >us smart questions, we're smart people" in a really snotty, whiney voice. >Then she was asked "Where are Hole musically now?" and she started ranting >about how they would have to be more specific with the questions and refused >to answer. The whole way through she acted as if this interview was >something below her and just was really, really, unpleasant and bratty. The >other two members of Hole just sat on either side laughing as if they were >her cronies. It just totally reinforced my dislike of her and I think she >has a serious superiority complex as well as being rude and awkward. > If she was going to do an interview she might as well make an effort, >perhaps she's aiming for a certain public, I don't know but she really >doesn't impress me at all. Just as a counterpoint I should say once again >that I do like Hole's music but I can't stand her personally. Oh, and I do >have a bit of a thang for the interviewer, Jayne Middlemiss, but that had >very little to do with my opinion of Courtney. I don't speak for anyone else >though and maybe she just had a bad day. > >Louis > >-----Original Message----- >From: SonicTonix@aol.com >To: sheryl-crew@smoe.org >Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:32 AM >Subject: Courtney Love on Sheryl > > >>There is a brief story on Courtney Love in this week's Entertainment >Weekly. >>Love says she prefers the company of artists with "integrity" such as >Sheryl >>Crow rather than Marilyn Manson. If Courtney likes you, you gotta be good! >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:13:04 PDT From: "David Ribeiro" Subject: Re: It's Sheryl's body >>> >Ummm, okay... >>> >So when are we going to see "Her" church? "Her" Bible? >>> >--Michael >Probably a hell of alot sooner than we are going to see your Sheryl > >interview. >Chris Yeah, no shit, lol Chris. I've kind of lost interest in that interview now, the moment's gone. David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:36:47 PDT From: "David Ribeiro" Subject: Re: question Jackie, You'll probably receive a message stating it couldn't be delivered, because that e-mail probably doesn't exist, David - ----Original Message Follows---- I was just wondering where my mail would go if I accidently sent it to sheryl-crew@smoe.com, which is what I stupidly did. Jackie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:41:06 -0700 From: Chris Ketchum Subject: Re: Maxim(um) Sheryl pt. 2 At 04:46 PM 5/26/99 -0400, mlucas wrote: >Try this website for one of the Maxim magazine pictures of Sheryl. > > http://www.Keg.com/HyperNews2/get/daiapc41/19938.html Thanks for the link! Sheryl is gorgeous (duh) and the picture is excellent. What I can't figure out is why those of you who are appalled because she's showing a little boobie, not making a big deal about what's goin' on a little farther south? Chris ------------------------------ End of sheryl-crew-digest V2 #173 *********************************