From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V6 #457 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Friday, October 10 2008 Volume 06 : Number 457 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:58:11 +0100 From: "KPJ" Subject: Re: seven-seas-digest all my colours/zimbo My god it's like a bicker from the past.........oh happy days........all it needs now is a damn Norwich supporter to pop up and life would be complete ;-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve & Holly | Exiles in Andalucia" To: Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:45 PM Subject: Re: seven-seas-digest all my colours/zimbo > > yeah, but it is by echo and the burundimen! > > steve g. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Red > To: seven-seas@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:06 PM > Subject: Re: seven-seas-digest all my colours/zimbo > > > At 04:49 PM 10/9/2008, you wrote: > > >The Live WOMAD version on the b side of The Cutter 12" (UK) is also > >titled "Zimbo" > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > **************Bunnymen Online Presence******************** > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info > http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ > http://www.villiersterrace.com/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevedoughty/index.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > * > > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: 09/10/2008 09:44 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **************Bunnymen Online Presence******************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ http://www.villiersterrace.com/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevedoughty/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:39:11 +0100 From: "KPJ" Subject: Fw: seven-seas-digest all my colours/zimbo My god it's like a bicker from the past.........oh happy days........all it needs now is a damn Norwich supporter to pop up and life would be complete ;-) [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1718 - Release Date: 10/10/2008 07:07 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **************Bunnymen Online Presence******************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ http://www.villiersterrace.com/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevedoughty/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:04:59 -0300 From: Ana Ban Subject: seven-seas Thoughts on Frank Coleman's review Dont put your life in the hands of a rock and roll band Frank Coleman is someone I hold dear, even though I never met him and he probably doesnt even remember me. I can still recall the time when I first got in touch with the internet (late 1995-early 1996) at the newspaper I worked for, and went looking for Bunnymen stuff. I stumbled into a very nice Electrafixion site (Barry`s, If I remember correctly...) and this list. And for some reason I got in touch with Frank Coleman and he taught me a lot of stuff about web surfing and e- mail and was really kind with my overall ignorance and general dumbness. Recently, when I read his review of the Ocean Rain concert in NYC, I remembered what a kind guy he is, and it made me reflect about a lot of things and it left me kind of melancholic/nostalgic. When I was 14, in 1987, I was so lucky to go see Echo and the Bunnymen in Sco Paulo (Brazil). They were happy Pete was back in the band, and they were excited to be playing together again, with a new album soon to be launched. Of course I didnt know any of this at the time, I had only heard Bring on the Dancing Horses on the radio a few times and I just knew I couldnt let my mother prevent me from going to an international concert again (a few months earlier, The Cure had played here and she didnt let me go). I must note that, at that time, Brazil was emerging from a time of military dictatorial regime and censorship; for the first time international bands started to come play here on a regular basis. That concert changed my life forever. If today I am able to write this in English, it is because of that day. Everything I did was because of Echo and the Bunnymen. I learned English so that I could understand the lyrics and read the NME, I went on an exchange student program in France because it was the closest country to the UK (I couldnt do it there because the school system is so different). It was 1991. I went to Liverpool and sat in front of Erics (I guess it was closed at the time) for half an hour, just imagining everything that happened there, how things were in the late 70s. I took my Never Stop book with me and tried to go to as many places mentioned there as possible. Back in Brazil I went to journalism school. Of course, I had to become a journalist in order to interview Ian McCulloch. In my ten year career as a writer, I didnt do bad  however, I didnt become a music writer either and I never really got to interview Ian McCulloch: twice I scheduled it and twice he bailed out. I did get to interview Will Sergeant, though  and he was really really nice and attentive and cool, until Pete told him to put away his computer and stop showing me his electronic stuff because our 20 minutes were up. I am a little proud to know that his Songs for Grind was released in Brazil because of me, as I told E&TBs record label here at the time about it. In 1999, Echo and the Bunnymen came back to play in Brazil for the first time in 12 years. I was so excited! I remember Frank put together a kind of list where he got free tickets for hard-core fans from the Seven-Seas list and organized a backstage list as well  that didnt work because Mac wouldnt receive people, at least here. I remember lots of people were mad at Frank during that tour and it was so unfair! He even tried to help me get an interview with Mac, which was arranged by the manager at the time and then cancelled; and then he made the guy apologize. I cant believe the size of the heart this Frank Coleman guy has! I was so nervous during that concert, I couldnt believe I was seeing Echo & The Bunnymen again. But I have to say I was really frustrated. Macs voice didnt sound too good, he kept yelling at the band members onstage and I didnt feel he was really willing to be there. But it was Echo & the Bunnymen, I should be grateful. That same year, I was lucky enough to be in LA when they were playing there. And I was lucky Claire (from the UK) had extra tickets, and that lovely Sherri was willing to give me a ride. It was great to see people from the list for the first time. The concert, however, was blah again. The second time this list helped me was when I decided to go to the ULU gig in London at the last minute and it was sold out and Stu asked Ivan who asked management and they got me a pass. I know Ivan screwed up a lot of people and was not a very gentle guy, but he was nice to me, and Im thankful. I was happy to meet so many people from the list, and that was a concert I really enjoyed... Macs voice wasnt all that bad, and my teenage dream had come true: I was in the UK, seeing the Bunnymen on stage. After that, there were some other concerts, all of them depressing. I dont even remember the years. I didnt like Slideling, I didnt like at all when Mac went here on a promotional tour and played as a DJ. It was really depressing: he made a list with 10 obvious songs (Reed, Bowie, the Bunnymen) and had a guy play them for him while he sat at the DJ booth smoking and looking bored. There was a concert so sad, he couldnt sing Ocean Rain, and to me it just seemed that the world as I knew it had come to an end. I thought Flowers was a poor album, I didnt listen to it twice. And all the while Mac saying how he was singing well, how his records were great, what a genius he was. There was even a press conference here in Brazil when a guy asked him if he regretted not singing so well as before, and he just trashed the guy and said he was singing great. Whatever. So I just gave up. I guess all of this disturbed me so deeply that it was probably the main reason why I almost gave up pop music altogether and spent a few years listening to nothing but Indian mantras (sung by Krishna Das). And also one of the reasons why I gave up my career as a writer. This year, when the Bunnymen played in Brazil, I made a point of not going to see them. And this decision also made me kind of sad. Then when I read Franks review, I thought that maybe Im too harsh with them (and with myself). Maybe he encouraged me to go see them the next time I have a chance and actually enjoy it. Im not sure, though; Ill just have to wait and see. So I just want to thank Frank again for making me realize that maybe its just hard to grow up and see things change, especially when you hold them so close to your heart. Love to you all, Ana PS: I would also like to mention Chris Adams, who has always something witty and clever to add, and who sent me his book and let me publish an excerpt of it in small magazine here in Brazil. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **************Bunnymen Online Presence******************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ http://www.villiersterrace.com/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevedoughty/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V6 #457 ********************************