From: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V5 #402 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Thursday, November 30 2000 Volume 05 : Number 402 Ye Olde Seven-Seas Digest and Gazzette Re: seven-seas Re: [Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM] Re: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig ["Paul M." ] Re: seven-seas News from the Front ["Paul M." ] RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig ["Rajesh Patel" ] RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig ["Paul M." ] Re: seven-seas News from the Front ["Ivan Smith" ] Re: seven-seas 'the christians' (non-echo) [Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM] seven-seas Chameleons & Peter Murphy ["Cooper, Sheldon" ] RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig [Anne Gleeson ] seven-seas NME Wylie review [Anders =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6mstedt?= ] Re: seven-seas Cooking Up...... ["Stuart Bird" ] Re: seven-seas Bunnymen piece on musicplayer.com ["Stuart Bird" ] seven-seas Tasty bit from NME archive, ca. Evergreen ["Ivan Smith" ] Re: seven-seas Tasty bit from NME archive, ca. Evergreen [Galaimpter@aol.] To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the command: unsubscribe seven-seas-digest [Unsubscribe seven-seas by itself won't work b/c you are subbed to the digest, which is a separate list known as seven-seas-digest] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:15:38 +0000 From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: 'fraid not...I don't need 'em M > > Hm? Me? > > > > No, I don't say anything ever. Never. Couldn't have been me... > > > > In fact, because I never ever say anything, this probably isn't even me... > > > > M - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:59:22 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig they are playing in manchester @ the ritz (an ironic place name - its a real shithole) on the 17th and 18th. im probably gonna go if im still up in steel town. anyone else out there going? Paul From: "Mr. Clarinet" To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig Date sent: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:21:38 -0800 Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > Hey everybody, > > I know there's some Chams fans on the list, so wanted to let you know about > the show I saw last Sunday in SF at the Great American Music Hall. It > rocked. I have some live stuff from their heyday, and it blew all of that > away. Great playlist and very powerful. > > Take care, > > Shawn > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:02:00 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas News from the Front do you have any 'trips'? From: "Ivan Smith" Date sent: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:10:34 -0800 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas News from the Front Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > Heard from the "insider" yesterday, he said the first day in studio > went very well. He's gonna get his hands on a digital camera to > document the sessions...More details soon on how and when and who and > what and where...as soon as is permitted... > > cryptic enough? > > Cheers > -Ivan > > get Avalanche, the new ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN mini-album @ www.gimmemusic.co.uk > ____________________________________________________________ > Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:58:24 -0000 From: "Rajesh Patel" Subject: RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig I'm going on the Sun 17th, same day as MUFC v LFC which I'm also going to. I'm going to the gig with 2 LFC fans so at least a 3rd of us will be happy. I wouldn't say it's that bad a venue. It has a proper ball-room dance floor (layer of cork in there) so when they do gigs and the crowd get going the floor literally shakes. When I was at Manchester Uni, they had their Xmas ball there, got very drunk and spent 3 hrs on the loos, when I came out I watched Frank Sidebottom get canned off stage, which was good! I also saw The Icicle Works play there at Xmas many years ago and remember Mr McNabb saying it was like playing in the back of a truck. I'm sure they covered 'Last Christmas' too. If you do make it to the gig, let me know and we could meet for a beer! Cheers Raj - -----Original Message----- they are playing in manchester @ the ritz (an ironic place name - its a real shithole) on the 17th and 18th. im probably gonna go if im still up in steel town. anyone else out there going? > Hey everybody, > > I know there's some Chams fans on the list, so wanted to let you know about > the show I saw last Sunday in SF at the Great American Music Hall. It > rocked. I have some live stuff from their heyday, and it blew all of that > away. Great playlist and very powerful. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:58:56 +0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig cool. ill let you know. > > If you do make it to the gig, let me know and we could meet for a beer! > > Cheers > Raj > > > -----Original Message----- > > they are playing in manchester @ the ritz (an ironic place name - > its a real shithole) on the 17th and 18th. > > im probably gonna go if im still up in steel town. > anyone else out there going? > > > > Hey everybody, > > > > I know there's some Chams fans on the list, so wanted to let you know > about > > the show I saw last Sunday in SF at the Great American Music Hall. It > > rocked. I have some live stuff from their heyday, and it blew all of that > > away. Great playlist and very powerful. > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:06:49 -0800 From: "Ivan Smith" Subject: Re: seven-seas News from the Front huh? - -Ivan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul M." do you have any 'trips'? - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:33:19 +0000 From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: Re: seven-seas 'the christians' (non-echo) Used to quite like some of their stuff M Please respond to seven-seas@smoe.org To: seven-seas@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Mark Silver/CYPHER) Subject: seven-seas 'the christians' (non-echo) The Christians played at La Pool's Neptune Theatre last night. They can sing a bit. Even had an accordian player, so some of it sounded like The Spinners doing the theme from Bergerac. Very good though. Couple of new songs; 'No Pain' was brilliant. Gary Christian said that 'there would be a new album some time in the next millenium.' ___________________________________________________________________________ __________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:37:51 -0500 From: "Cooper, Sheldon" Subject: seven-seas Chameleons & Peter Murphy Any chance either of them are coming to Pittsburgh or Denver ? Ah well just dreaming I guess, cos neither will play Colorado Springs.......... Sheldon - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:29:12 -0700 From: Tad Clayton Subject: RE: seven-seas Chameleons & Peter Murphy Peter Murphy played the Ogden in Denver (or thereabouts) November 16th or 17th. Too bad you missed it. - -----Original Message----- From: seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:seven-seas@smoe.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 7:38 AM To: 'seven-seas@smoe.org' Subject: seven-seas Chameleons & Peter Murphy Any chance either of them are coming to Pittsburgh or Denver ? Ah well just dreaming I guess, cos neither will play Colorado Springs.......... Sheldon - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:40:37 -0800 (PST) From: Anne Gleeson Subject: RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig Easy there, Raj. After watching the re-play of the MUFC v. Sunderland match last night I'd say there's a chance that 2/3 of you will be happy. Sloppy. ;-) Cheers, Anne - --- Rajesh Patel wrote: > I'm going on the Sun 17th, same day as MUFC v LFC > which I'm also going to. > I'm going to the gig with 2 LFC fans so at least a > 3rd of us will be happy. Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:20:17 +0100 From: Anders =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6mstedt?= Subject: seven-seas NME Wylie review Wylie, Pete : London King's Cross Scala "Pete Wylie, you are God!" Wylie knows this already, but he can't resist a sly smile at the first of many adulatory heckles. Julian Cope and Ian McCulloch, his co-conspirators in Liverpool's legendary punk outfit The Crucial Three, may have enjoyed greater fame in the past two decades, but Wylie has enough self-belief to raise himself above everyone else. Wylie doesn't style his hair and outfit on The King for nothing - he genuinely believes he is up there with Elvis and God. Wylie slots in his biggest hit, 1982's 'The Story Of The Blues', as the third song tonight. He wants his current material, this year's 'Songs Of Strength & Heartbreak' album, to get the respect he believes it deserves. It's his career high, but these songs do suffer without the Columbia-funded production. Tracks like 'Hey! Mona Lisa' should boom with Phil Spector's wall of sound and crackle with the vigorous intent of The Clash, but they end up with not enough sweeping grace and too much bullish charm. Although three guitars, a keyboard and a backing singer can't quite do justice to Wylie's modern masterpieces, they can glorify simpler songs such as 'Sinful'. These old favourites are no less effective, but at two-and-a-quarter hours' duration, the man with a gob as wide as the Mersey Tunnel should pare things down a little because this show, while at times superb, was too exhaustive a trail through the back catalogue. Ben Clancy - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:49:01 -0500 From: George Fletcher Subject: seven-seas Bunnymen piece on musicplayer.com Hey fellow Bunny-fans... In case anyone's interested, there's a news item about the new Avalanche EP on musicplayer.com. There's not much in the piece that all of us here don't already know, but at least it is some press for the band. For the next few days, you can find it on the home page at www.musicplayer.com. After that, it'll get "bumped" off the home page by newer news items, but you can do a search and it should still turn up. Oh, yeah, in the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that I'm one of the editors of the site and, I, um, wrote the piece... :-) But I'm not posting this to "spam" the list or toot my own horn (heck, we don't even byline news pieces), just wanted to pass on the info... Hope you like it. Thanks! George - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:44:32 -0000 From: "Stuart Bird" Subject: Re: seven-seas Cooking Up...... Ok, I'll have a play with you too as I know you want me to..... > >Stu, baby, might be time to up that lithium dosage. Chill. Jason, you've been running this list long enough now.. Haven't you realised over the last ( how many ? ) years that I prefer delat-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or the occaisonal dose of Psilocybin > >Sides, ain't they invented bank debit cards on your side of the waters >yet? Oh yes, and that's what I use, and that's the problem.... Hmm, google.com again...^Z http://www.google.com okay, debit cards >fully available in the uk yup fg %1 dude, get a frickin' debit card from >yer bank. Got one !! >What, you don't believe in banks either? > See if your matress >issues them. :) I've purchased a ton of stuff online, never with >borrowed money, just the old check card. Hell, I'm thinking of >getting a second one just for ordering online. Shit, get with the 21st >century, dude. And remember, thorazine. Now then, my turn.. I have been a member of my current bank for around 10 years. This bank was the uk's first total telephone 24/7 bank, and I've managed to run myself, my wife, mortgage, household bills, 3 children quite well without a credit card, and even without a chequebook until earlier this year. I just phone them up and they do what I ask them to. I manage quite well with just a cheque card which also doubles up as an ATM card for cash " from the wall". So what's yer point? I have all of what you say but it won't work I can assure you..... Why ? read on and I'll tell you. Oh, and just to correct you, we are currently at the end of the 2000th year. Consequently we don't start the next century until we have finished the 2000th year and have started the 2001st. So whilst you may be in the 21st century, the rest of us ain't quite yet.. Do the math. And there's far, far better tranquilisers man... > >Having a visa debit card for POS purchases no longer has anything to do >with credit, borrowing or anything other than an electronic debit of >your account. What, the label should have to worry about dealing with >scrip from around the world or bouncing checks from Australia just b/c >you're a luddite or haven't gotten past the 1929 bank crash? ;) > >Jason > Ok a quick round-up of UK banking practice so that you know next time. Aside from credit cards which we've already discussed tha I don't want. DEBIT CARDS The main banks in the uk are roughly split into two halves. The first half issues debit cards with 4 blocks of 4 numbers, and often have the Visa sign on them. As you might notice, 16 numbers happens to be the same as the visa / mastercard, and so transactions can be made using that service ( along with expiry date ), with the amount being debited from the person's account rather than added to a credit account. The other half operate via a debit card too. However, this uses a bank of 6 numbers and another one of 12 totalling 18...... Often, these have no visa/mastercard affiliation, and these are known as Switch cards. they operate in the same way i.e. they can be used for purchases with the expiry and also an issue no. and the money is debited straight from your account. Now then maybe I'm wrong, but 18 numbers offers better security than 16, and then there's the added extra of an isue number, so I think that it's a more advanced and safer system. However, some retailers cannot be bothered to upgrade their systems to accept this "new" way, including most US outlets, which is a hassle, but why should I take a backward step ? Like I said it's roughly half and half.. my bank is part of HSBC, and is looked upon as quite advanced here in the UK...... You want fries with that ??? - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:47:02 -0000 From: "Stuart Bird" Subject: Re: seven-seas Cooking Up...... >Look, don't mouth off then say, "drop it". I had not read all the posts >when I replied. Sorry. Accepted But don't start flying off the handle. All I wrote >was that you could get Cooking Vinyl in traditional retail outlets. Nothing >until your last little tirade suggested that a discount was your #1 >objective. It did.. I mentioned in that post that CV's own policies are restrictive online.The fact that you may not know their policies is hardly my fault. For the record, I've pasted the following from their site.... "By joining the Cooking Vinyl Club, you will be entitled to the following benefits: massive discounts of up to 25% on all Cooking Vinyl releases bought over the Web or through mail order regular issues of our newsletter and tour schedules at least one free Cooking Vinyl sampler per year free promo photos on request information about our sales and special offers free daily-updated gig guides on request a free CD of your choice if your total order is over #30 Membership and Renewal Costs: UK #10 Europe #11 Zone 1 (USA, Canada, Hong Kong, Israel, S.A.) #14 Zone 2 (Australia, Japan, New Zealand) #15" >(By the way, if members get a discount, you're not paying >"extra", the members are simply paying less AFTER JOINING (which may >include a FEE.) You're correct, but in FUNDAMENTAL terms you could have discounts for.. say, white people , or Christians etc etc which is totally a totally abhorrent suggestion. This ain't no difference. Now then, I'm not just interested in EATB so the benefits do not just go for the one band. They currently have an xmas offer of 5 cds for 10 pounds, or 10 for 15 pounds. On the list that they give, there is one cd regularly priced at 6 pounds, one at 8 pounds, and the other 20 or so are either 10 or 15 pounds. So I want to buy the cheapest 10 cds, that's the 6 plus the 8 plus a further 8 at 10 pounds. Total 94 pounds. If I was a member, that would be 15 pounds for the offer, plus 10 pounds membership totalling 25 pounds. a saving of 69 pounds ( about 100 bucks US ? ) I have scanned in the flyer which I will mail to anyone on request off-list please ). I already spent around 60 pounds a month minimum on music.... How frustrating do you think this is to me.. Add to that the fact that my favourite band could now have offers attached to their products that I can't get........... My post was in no way intended to be hostile. Why did you >chose to start throwing "flying fucks" & so on? I was simply making a >contribution. So, no, you don't need to draw a fucking picture. Comprende? Ok... please understand that I like to think of myself as probably one of the nicest guys you could ever meet, BUT, I will not be misquoted, or made out to be bad or a trouble-maker or whatever. I will always defend my corner if I believe I'm right, and to that ends I usually make sure I know what I'm talking about first. Now for the positive... Whilst all this has been going on, I have actually made contact with Cooking Vinyl to get some feedback from them. First, their response time is excellent and very professional. Second, they are sending me a whole rake of information thru the post. Third, I asked about other methods, and have agreed a process by which non visa/mastercard holders can enjoy their member services. I also made sure that this process could also be used by anyone on this list in the uk in a similar position to me. If anyone would like details, then please mail me off-list. The only thing still nagging me is that to be honest, I shouldn't of had to go to all that hassle contacting them etc, and I still think their online facilities could be much better, and are not conducive to their own business growth considering our banking systems here...... Oh, and btw, they're also very excited about snagging the Bunnymen !! - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:56:59 -0000 From: "Stuart Bird" Subject: Re: seven-seas Bunnymen piece on musicplayer.com Hmm, The ep was reviewed in both this week's NME and Melody Maker - -----Original Message----- From: George Fletcher To: seven-seas@smoe.org Date: 29 November 2000 19:52 Subject: seven-seas Bunnymen piece on musicplayer.com >Hey fellow Bunny-fans... > >In case anyone's interested, there's a news item about the new Avalanche EP on >musicplayer.com. There's not much in the piece that all of us here don't already >know, but at least it is some press for the band. For the next few days, you can >find it on the home page at www.musicplayer.com. After that, it'll get "bumped" >off the home page by newer news items, but you can do a search and it should >still turn up. > >Oh, yeah, in the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that I'm one of >the editors of the site and, I, um, wrote the piece... :-) But I'm not posting >this to "spam" the list or toot my own horn (heck, we don't even byline news >pieces), just wanted to pass on the info... Hope you like it. Thanks! > >George > > > >----- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe seven-seas >or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > >Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a >deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:51:28 -0500 From: "Cooper, Sheldon" Subject: seven-seas OT/ Cooking Up...... Hi Stuart Ha ha my VISA card is now issued by HSBC Bank USA. Yeah they bought out Marine Midland in Buffalo NY. Switch cards are kinda like Discover over here in that while most everyone can take Visa/Master not all take Discover. Also Discover doesn't work in all countries, kinda like Switch. However do not try to do anything here without a credit card............ Sheldon - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:23:50 -0000 From: "Stuart Bird" Subject: Re: seven-seas OT/ Cooking Up...... Hi Sheldon, Sounds like a similar thing, but Switch is accepted in virtually all "in-person" outlets here. Like I said, it's roughly 50% penetration, but it's the online community that doesn't seem to want to adapt... My bank's HSBC, but not the Midland version ;-p Gimmemusic made the right noises with their site but it just wouldn't accept the details once entered stating wrong card number. DOH !! As for the States..... most of the music I buy originates from over here.. although there's a worrying huge increase of US/Canadian acts that I'm currently gettin' into ;-) Stu - -----Original Message----- From: Cooper, Sheldon To: 'seven-seas@smoe.org' Date: 29 November 2000 20:56 Subject: seven-seas OT/ Cooking Up...... >Hi Stuart > >Ha ha my VISA card is now issued by HSBC Bank USA. Yeah they bought out >Marine Midland in Buffalo NY. > >Switch cards are kinda like Discover over here in that while most everyone >can take Visa/Master >not all take Discover. Also Discover doesn't work in all countries, kinda >like Switch. > >However do not try to do anything here without a credit card............ > >Sheldon > > > >----- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe seven-seas >or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > >Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a >deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:54:36 -0000 From: "Rajesh Patel" Subject: RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig Ah but did you check the Utd Squad? MUFC Third Team against Sunderlands 'best' And that ref was obviously conference league. All in all it was actually a really good game, sometimes spoiled by the ref. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Anne Gleeson Sent: 29 November 2000 17:41 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: RE: seven-seas OT - Chameleons gig Easy there, Raj. After watching the re-play of the MUFC v. Sunderland match last night I'd say there's a chance that 2/3 of you will be happy. Sloppy. ;-) Cheers, Anne - --- Rajesh Patel wrote: > I'm going on the Sun 17th, same day as MUFC v LFC > which I'm also going to. > I'm going to the gig with 2 LFC fans so at least a > 3rd of us will be happy. Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:07:11 -0800 From: "Ivan Smith" Subject: seven-seas Tasty bit from NME archive, ca. Evergreen found this one courtesy of our friends at NME.com - ---begin--- LAPIN IT UP! ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN Paris Le Bataclan C'est le Paris match of the month. Having cruised through their comeback honeymoon period with remarkable grace and only minor carping about Mac's shrinking hairdo, the Bunnies are out on the road again, playing night-time matches against the hologram of their cryogenically frozen legend. If last year they were welcomed back as a reminder of standard-setting '80s jagged romance and narcissistic swagger, now they have to elbow for long-term room amongst the Marions and Spaces, while fighting a seemingly impossible battle to be as evergreen-good as the legend insists. Paris, of course, loves Ian McCulloch. The Bunnymen have that on their side. The rock-noir poet in him goes down well here. He is Johnny L'Existential Crooner. He is Jim Morrison without the blubber and the bath water. Moreover, in the most pro-fag city in the world, he smokes beaucoup de cigarettes, with more style than anyone since Greta Garbo. In the play-off between A Bunch Of 30-Something Family Men and The Stormy Transcendental Magic Of The Classic '80s Rock Band, those fags are damned important. So, buoyed up by the news that they might be getting their song accepted as the England World Cup theme (except guitarist Will Sergeant, who is unaccountably "depressed"), the expanded line-up of the Bunnymen - worthy extra guitarist and keyboards - fly through the first 20 minutes like teenage lizard princes high on caffeine and Camus. (Fag One: pre-lit and carried on by singer himself) Mac looks mirror confident in his black Armani leather jacket and the band speedball through a blizzard of lean, unfussy tunes. The join between the 18-year-old opener 'Rescue' and the one-year-old 'I Want To Be There' is rendered invisible by the foot-down drive while 'Baseball Bill' (Fag Two: carried on by roadie) balances Roxy Music-oid trash-pop phrasing and hard riffs with the kind of effortless cool that yer Marions are still groping for. There's not much clowning in McCulloch tonight. No Sinatra-like freeforming or pissed joke-telling. For most of the set he inhabits the old and new songs with a cynic-burying commitment. It's as if he's taking himself seriously as a singer again. After the flighty acoustics of 'Bedbugs And Ballyhoo' (Fag Three: held but not lit), the opening star-splitting bars of 'The Killing Moon' unfurl and 1,500 Parisian hearts stop as the velvet cloak of prime McCulloch croons the immortal, "Under blue moon I saw you..." (and nonchalantly drops Fag Three on to his right foot and boots it across stage). The scope of the Bunnymen's set is staggering (Fag Four: taken from crowd during vicious rendition of 'Crocodiles'). 'Seven Seas' hits transcendental, ocean-shimmering peaks (Fag Five: smoked crouching by mike stand between songs), 'Villiers Terrace' is a wired descent into a bad-acid basement. By 'Altamont' and 'The Cutter' the mood cuts up from angst to imperial, sexy celebration with Mac doing his weird wiggleyman/palsied horse dance, and even Will peeping out from under the iconic fringe like he's not actually too depressed to be there. "Leeeeps like shoooogar!" screams a girl in the crowd for the tenth time tonight. Mac reaches out and selects Fag Six from the outstretched arms with the elaborate, picky gesture of a limelight addict and the girl gets her wish in the form of a sublime groove through 'Lips Like Sugar'. The encores are all strings and punk-Doors dashes. 'Ocean Rain' is glistening perfection. But the real climax comes in the form of 'Over The Wall', splintered and extended into a stunning guitar storm that completely finishes off any notion that it's a one foot in Pere Lachaise Bunnymen that we're now dealing with and allows McCulloch his final smoking flourish, holding Fag Seven with both hands, leaving Paris in no doubt as to his commitment to cigs, drags and l'existentialism. If there's anything amiss about the Bunnymen's brazen ability to live up to their legend, it's this: there are moments tonight when they hit heights of numb-toothed, eye-gouging, heady, bloody emotion that seem somewhat incongruous given the nature of their mostly suited, careered and parentally responsible audience. All that angst and narcissism should belong to the kids. But would the kids ever believe that Echo & The Bunnymen were better than The Verve tonight? Probably not. Best just to note that the Family Men lost 3-0 to The Magic tonight, that filter-tipped fags were smoked, and snow-capped peaks were thoroughly kissed. Roger Morton - ---end--- cheers - -Ivan - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:33:49 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill Subject: Re: seven-seas Cooking Up...... On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Stuart Bird wrote: > numbers and another one of 12 totalling 18...... Often, these have no > visa/mastercard affiliation, and these are known as Switch cards. they > operate in the same way i.e. they can be used for purchases with the expiry > and also an issue no. and the money is debited straight from your account. Ah, well that makes the rant *much* clearer. I tried to order, and am totally pissed that I can't use my Texaco charge card. And it wouldn't take my Diner's Club either. :0 I wouldn't wait for US sites to use anything else for quite a while...the existing co's have quite a good monopoly going. Sorry about the response, but your rant reminded me of this girl on another list who, a couple of years ago, wouldn't use credit carts, didn't believe in banks so didn't use checks, and since she didn't believe in banks she wouldn't get a money order from them, and didn't want to pay 7-11 to buy a money order from them b/c they charge too much, etc. etc. etc. and would therefore only order from places that would ship COD and deliver in the afternoon b/c she worked in the morning. I was having bad flashbacks. Jason - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:43:00 EST From: Galaimpter@aol.com Subject: Re: seven-seas Tasty bit from NME archive, ca. Evergreen I've read that quite a few times in the Watchtower a nice tidbit! I dunno if the chief scribe is still offering these old issues, but to any bunnyfreaks who can't read enough tasty tidbits with photos and other cool bits and pieces: go to the website and figure out how to order back issues. Great reading and making me anxious for the forthcoming ultimate bunny bible i wanna hijack that original pic of mac with his stash- the Lenny album and liverpool fc vid . Behind all the joe music stuff , the best thing about Mac is the Lenny-Footy passions I'd like to see a Mac top ten of alltime great soccer players (footballers) Kenny Dalglish at #1? George Best?? - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V5 #402 ******************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to seven-seas-owner@smoe.org