From: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V5 #396 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Friday, November 24 2000 Volume 05 : Number 396 Ye Olde Seven-Seas Digest and Gazzette Re: seven-seas Re: amish ["J.Hickmott" ] Re: seven-seas Redneck country ["J.Hickmott" ] re: seven-seas echoing the bunnymen ["Peter Burnand" ] Re: seven-seas moody digression ["Peter Burnand" ] Re: seven-seas Re: amish ["Paul M." ] Re: seven-seas Redneck country ["Paul M." ] Re: seven-seas Redneck country [jason and jill ] Re: seven-seas Redneck country ["Paul M." ] Re: seven-seas the church [Spyro Bouras ] Re: seven-seas the church [Spyro Bouras ] Fwd: seven-seas Recommends - but not new [Spartanfam@aol.com] Re: seven-seas Redneck country [redhead ] Re: seven-seas Re: amish [redhead ] Re: seven-seas Redneck country [redhead ] Re: seven-seas Redneck country [redhead ] Re: Fwd: seven-seas Recommends - but not new [redhead ] To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the command: unsubscribe seven-seas-digest [Unsubscribe seven-seas by itself won't work b/c you are subbed to the digest, which is a separate list known as seven-seas-digest] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:20:15 -0000 From: "J.Hickmott" Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: amish > Family of God -Exiter > Land of Nod -Timeless Point > > Red Absolutely! jon H - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:25:47 -0000 From: "J.Hickmott" Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country > >Why don't they have to pay taxes? > > THAT'S what I'd like to know!! > What makes them any better than the rest of us?? > They drive their horsies on our roads...they should have > to contribute to state taxes for upkeep! Don't get me started! Do you get to keep the horse shit - to shovel on yer roses? jH - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:24:53 From: "Peter Burnand" Subject: re: seven-seas echoing the bunnymen Peter Allen wrote: "Well 'Echoing The Bunnymen' is finished & a launch date of 1/12/00, but if you are the owner of a Wap phone you can get on line now. The Wap address is www.tagtag.com/bunnymenwap if you dont have a Wap phone you can check it out on WWW.tagtag.com " - --- That's good news, Peter. Looking forward to it. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:28:47 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas OT: the church - still going at it cheers! From: "Ivan Smith" Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:24:47 -0800 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas OT: the church - still going at it Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > As I recall, they've played here in Seattle this year. Found the > following from All-Music Guide: > > "Best known for the shimmering "Under the Milky Way," their lone Top > 40 hit, the Australian band the Church combined the jangling guitar- > pop of '60s icons like the Byrds with the opaque wordplay of frontman > Steve Kilbey to create a lush, melancholy brand of neo-psychedelia > rich in texture and melody. Formed in Sydney in 1980 by > vocalist/bassist Kilbey with guitarist Peter Koppes and drummer Nick > Ward, the Church recruited second guitarist Marty Willson-Piper > before debuting the following year with Of Skin and Heart, an > evocative collection highlighted by the ringing "The Unguarded > Moment," a major success down under.Best known for the > shimmering "Under the Milky Way," their lone Top 40 hit, the > Australian band the Church combined the jangling guitar-pop of '60s > icons like the Byrds with the opaque wordplay of frontman Steve > Kilbey to create a lush, melancholy brand of neo-psychedelia rich in > texture and melody. Formed in Sydney in 1980 by vocalist/bassist > Kilbey with guitarist Peter Koppes and drummer Nick Ward, the Church > recruited second guitarist Marty Willson-Piper before debuting the > following year with Of Skin and Heart, an evocative collection > highlighted by the ringing "The Unguarded Moment," a major success > down under. > After replacing Ward with drummer Richard Ploog, the group resurfaced > in 1982 with The Blurred Crusade, a stunning effort featuring mature > standouts like "Almost With You" and "When You Were Mine." 1983's > Seance continued to refine the Church's atmospheric sound, and the > subsequent success of the EPs Persia and Remote Luxury helped earn > the band an American deal with Warner Bros., which issued the > excellent Heyday in 1986. After moving to Arista, the Church teamed > with famed session guitarists Danny Kortchmar and Waddy Wachtel to > record 1988's Starfish, their most artistically and commercially > successful effort to date. Highlighted by "Under the Milky Way," the > album also featured the minor hits "Reptile" and "Spark," a marvelous > pop blast penned by Willson-Piper. > > The follow-up, 1988's Gold Afternoon Fix, failed to repeat the > success of its predecessor as the single "Metropolis" garnered only > minor airplay. Ploog left the Church prior to the release of 1992's > Priest : Aura, which featured former Patti Smith Group drummer Jay > Dee Daugherty; by 1994's Sometime Anywhere, only Kilbey and Willson- > Piper remained, recording with the aid of a drum machine. When the > album failed to crack the charts, Arista dropped the group from their > contract, and with new drummer Tim Powles, the Church issued 1996's > Magician Among the Spirits on the tiny White label; a subsequent tour > marked Koppes' return to the fold. Hologram of Baal followed in 1998, > and a year later the Church released the covers collection Box of > Birds." > > DISCOGRAPHY > > Albums: > 1999 Box of Birds Thirsty Ear > 1999 Hologram of Baal [Bonus CD] > 1998 Hologram of Baal Festival > 1997 Almost Yesterday Raven > 1996 Magician Among the Spirits Griffin Music > 1994 Sometime Anywhere Arista > 1992 Priest = Aura Arista > 1990 Gold Afternoon Fix Mushroom > 1988 Conception > 1988 Hindsight EMI > 1988 Starfish Arista > 1986 Heyday EMI > 1984 Remote Luxury Carrere > 1983 Seance Arista > 1982 The Blurred Crusade EMI > 1982 The Church EMI > 1982 Temperature Drop in Downtown Winterland > 1981 Of Skin and Heart Arista > > Compilations and Boxed Sets: > 2000 Triple Set Mushroom > 1999 Best Of The Church Mushroom > 1999 Under the Milky Way: The Best of the Church Buddha > 1999 Magician Among the Spirits & Some Thirsty Ear > 1996 Quick Smoke at Spot's Mushroom > > EPs and Singles: > 1990 Russian Autumn Heart Arista > 1988 Megalopolis [ep] Arista > 1984 Remote Luxury [ep] > 1983 Persia Parlophone > 1982 Sing-Songs [EP] > 1982 The Unguarded Moment [ep] > > Bootlegs and videos: > 1986 Gold Fish: Jokes Magic & Souvenirs Pioneer > > > > get Avalanche, the new ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN mini-album @ www.gimmemusic.co.uk > ____________________________________________________________ > Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:30:35 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country well..that's a lot clearer. From: "Prince of Happiness" To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:51:43 -0600 Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > >amish? > >what is that? > > > >i watched 'kingpin' t'other day and there was this geezer who was > >amish. is it puritan christians? jewish community? > > > >please enlighten > They're a fundamental Christian group, kinda like Puritans... A lot of > them are Dutch. That's where the reference to Pennsylvanian Dutch comes > from, though being that doesn't necessarily mean being Amish(I'm probably > all wrong up to this point). They refer to people who aren't Amish as > English, whether they are or not. Technologically they are in the mid-19th > century, except for rollerblades, I shit you not. It all has to do with > their religious beliefs... > > > > The Prince of Happiness > "Oh she deals in witchcraft, one kiss and I'm zapped, so how can Heaven hold > a place for me? When a girl like you cast a spell on me?"-Space "Female of > the Species" > http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:32:26 From: "Peter Burnand" Subject: Re: seven-seas moody digression >New Brighton Paul wrote: "New Brighton? has the 'Old Brighton' where i live on the south coast of england suddenly become obsolete since i left for uni? where is this New Brighton anyway?" - --- It's where scousers spend their summer holidays, or used to. Nice view of Gladstone Dock from a deck chair. New Brighton prom immortalised by Boo Radleys song of the same name. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:32:20 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: RE: seven-seas the church that must have been pretty cool! damn i wish i wasn't in nappies during those days. From: LeQuebec60@aol.com Date sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:40:55 EST Subject: Re: RE: seven-seas the church To: seven-seas@smoe.org Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > In a message dated 23/11/00 21:40:17, redhead@sunlink.net writes: > > << Anyone here see the tour when The Church opened > for the Bunnymen? >> > > That was for Heyday, and the Bunnymen had just released Songs to Learn and > Sing, right? > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:40:18 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: amish enough with the amish dissin'. from what ive gathered it sounds top. the 'no sex (or drugs) we're amish' thing clearly sucks, but the idea of a community that works together unselfishly and without material possessions is my idea of a perfect existence. its very communist. i guess that's why americans hate it. its probably the only example of a communist system in the world that actually works. and the secret? the full commitment of community. communist systems all over the world have failed because they were forced on the population against their will. set the religious element aside, and its exactly what lennon was talking about in 'imagine'. Paul Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 22:59:42 -0500 To: seven-seas@smoe.org From: redhead Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: amish Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > At 08:06 PM 11/23/2000 -0800, you wrote: > > > >what's with all this Amish stuff? Must be in the zeitgeist... there was > >something on a radio chat show here yesterday morning (in Scotland!) about > >the Amish. (But they couldn't get them on air to talk as the amish have no > >phones, so they had someone who lived next door to someone amish... honest.) > > Yeah...funny thing about that....they *pretend* to have no phones. > Fact is...some of 'em have phones...across the road from their houses!! > No shit!!!! They hide them in the trees where no one can see them. > They have 'em in little wooden sheds that look like outhouses. I've seen > 'em talking on them. They pretend to not drive too. They buy a vehichle > and *give* it to someone they know for free (that way THEY don't *own* it) > ...all the person has to do is chauffer them around whenever they want to > go somewhere. Technically, they're not owning or driving the vehichle. > What kind of bullshit is that??? And why don't they have to pay > property taxes??? They still own land in this country!! arrrrgh! > > >Anyway, what i really want to know is if anyone has any 'must have' music > >recommendations. > > Family of God -Exiter > Land of Nod -Timeless Point > > Red > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:44:52 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country i bet if they don't use any public utilities like water, and electricity, they probably don't use schools, or hospoitals or get any government benefits, right? that's probably where the tax exemption comes in. Paul ps. sorry red, it sounds alright to me, but if i had to live with them it'd probably piss me off too. From: "J.Hickmott" To: Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country Date sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:25:47 -0000 Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > > >Why don't they have to pay taxes? > > > > THAT'S what I'd like to know!! > > What makes them any better than the rest of us?? > > They drive their horsies on our roads...they should have > > to contribute to state taxes for upkeep! Don't get me started! > > Do you get to keep the horse shit - to shovel on yer roses? > > jH > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:42:17 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country > At 11:34 AM 11/23/2000 -0800, you wrote: > > >Why don't they have to pay taxes? > > THAT'S what I'd like to know!! > What makes them any better than the rest of us?? > > Red To lower the retard quotient on this thread somewhat--which may be pissing uphill considering the level of dicussion: "Do the Amish pay taxes?" "Self-employed Amish do not pay Social Security tax. Those employed by non-Amish employers do pay Social Security tax. The Amish do pay real estate, state and federal income taxes, county taxes, sales tax, etc. The Amish do not collect Social Security benefits, nor would they collect unemployment or welfare funds. Self sufficiency is the Amish community's answer to government aid programs. Section 310 of the Medicare section of the Social Security act has a sub-section that permits individuals to apply for exemption from the self-employment tax if he is a member of a religious body that is conscientiously opposed to social security benefits but that makes reasonable provision of taking care of their own elderly or dependent members. The Amish have a long history of taking care of their own members. They do not have retirement communities or nursing homes; in most cases, each family takes care of their own, and the Amish community gives assistance as needed." Jason - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:27:29 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country that's certainly a lot clearer! thanks jason. how come you know so much about them? Date sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:42:17 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > > At 11:34 AM 11/23/2000 -0800, you wrote: > > > > >Why don't they have to pay taxes? > > > > THAT'S what I'd like to know!! > > What makes them any better than the rest of us?? > > > > Red > > To lower the retard quotient on this thread somewhat--which may be > pissing uphill considering the level of dicussion: > > "Do the Amish pay taxes?" > > "Self-employed Amish do not pay Social Security tax. Those employed > by > non-Amish employers do pay Social Security tax. The Amish do pay real > estate, state and federal income taxes, county taxes, sales tax, etc. > > The Amish do not collect Social Security benefits, nor would they > collect unemployment or welfare funds. Self sufficiency is the Amish > community's answer to government aid programs. Section 310 of the > Medicare section of the Social Security act has a sub-section that > permits individuals to apply for exemption from the self-employment > tax if he is a member of a religious body that is conscientiously > opposed to social security benefits but that makes reasonable > provision of taking care of their own elderly or dependent members. > The Amish have a long history of taking care of their own members. > They do not have retirement communities or nursing homes; in most > cases, each family takes care of their own, and the Amish community > gives assistance as needed." > > Jason > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 01:02:48 +1030 From: Spyro Bouras Subject: Re: seven-seas the church Yes still touring but generally(I think??) just as a duo.....Steve Kilbey and Marty Wilson-Piper,who were the main players. Did a tour here in Australia earlier this year to support the last album of covers. Try "The Blurred Crusade" "Of Skins And Heart" or just get the double best of...great! Spyro "Paul M." wrote: > don't panic.. > im not gonna start suggesting that you all become christians > > i bought an album by 'the church' the other day, and they are really > good. very 'byrds'/'stone roses'-esque! > > does anyone out there know if they are still together, touring etc.? > > Paul M. > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 01:07:18 +1030 From: Spyro Bouras Subject: Re: seven-seas the church Hi Paul, i think Raven released a compilation with all the later stuff as well.......not sure tho' This band was/is hot live as they do play 12 string guitars which give them that jangly style I like it anyway... "Paul M." wrote: > no. sadly its 'hindsight' (an aussie-only best of.. compilation) which > only goes as far as 1987, and includes no songs from 'starfish'. > > but, 'the ungaurded moment' is lovely. can't stop listening to it. > > From: "Quiroga, Manuel" > To: "'seven-seas@smoe.org'" > Subject: RE: seven-seas the church > Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:04:09 -0500 > Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > > > "Is this the one that have "Under the Milky Way" on it?" > > > > Great song. It reminds me of the House of Love's style. > > > > Nano > > > > > > > > ----- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > > unsubscribe seven-seas > > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > > deceased one. > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:48:53 EST From: Spartanfam@aol.com Subject: Fwd: seven-seas Recommends - but not new Of course, the new Radiohead is wonderful, but takes repeated listens. Moose's new one, High Ball Me is excellent, as is Belle & Sebastian's "Fold Your Hands Child...." for a bit of a mellow lope-along. I'm eagerly awaiting hearing the new Doves and Sigur Ros as well. Joel Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg01.mail.aol.com (v77.14) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:52:46 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [216.200.102.14]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:52:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id VAA17086; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:47:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id VAA17062 for seven-seas-outgoing; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id VAA17054 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from koo [62.252.176.57] (j.hickmott@totalise.co.uk); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:46:46 +0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Fri, 24 Nov 00 02:46:46 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01c055c0$83c6cea0$cfa8fc3e@koo> From: "J.Hickmott" To: References: Subject: seven-seas Recommends - but not new Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:54:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk "Pete Martin" wrote: > Anyway, what i really want to know is if anyone has any 'must have' music > recommendations. I'm going crazy for something new and magnificent, and as > far as I can tell magnificence seems to have been cancelled in the 21st > century. > > Last few CDs i bought say it all - new Cocteau Twins compilation; new David > Sylvian compilation; and one genuinely new thing: Electric Music 'North > London Spiritualist Church'. (Damn fine album, but damn misleading title. > Tom Doyle - who wrote the brilliant Billy Mackenzie biog - is one of the > musicians. It's hard to describe: a bit radiohead, a bit mercury rev, a bit > crosby stills nash & young.) > > Any suggestions for anything genuinely great, gratefully accepted. A'wite Pete There's a new Cocteau's comp out? - funnily I was listening to their BBC sessions double CD today - It's actually been on my rack for nearly a year now, but haven't given it much attention. If you haven't heard it, there's some real gems on there spanning '82 thru to '96 - Liz sounds suprisingly siouxie sioux-ish on some of the early tracks. jon H - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:19:49 -0500 From: redhead Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country At 10:25 AM 11/24/2000 -0000, you wrote: >Do you get to keep the horse shit - to shovel on yer roses? I suppose if I wanted to go shovel it off the roads, I could keep it!! ;-) Red - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:34:36 -0500 From: redhead Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: amish At 11:40 AM 11/24/2000 -0000, you wrote: >enough with the amish dissin'. >from what ive gathered it sounds top. ...there's a lot more to it than you know. It does seem like a perfect community type deal, but like I said...it's not fair that they don't have to pay taxes!!!!!!!! WHY??? If they wanna live in this country...they should have to pay the same taxes we do....I sure as hell don't wanna pay them, but if I don't....I go to jail! And they ALL use electricity whether they tell you they don't or not. Why are they allowed use it in their barns, but not their houses? It's STILL electricity no matter where they use it. The young kids all sneak booze and cigarettes and radios....c'mon...it's all bullshit and scams. The IDEA is great, but they don't actually live by their own standards. Sorry...I guess because I live so closely around these people ...I see what the biggest part of the world doesn't. Red >the 'no sex (or drugs) we're amish' thing clearly sucks, but the idea >of a community that works together unselfishly and without >material possessions is my idea of a perfect existence. > >its very communist. i guess that's why americans hate it. its >probably the only example of a communist system in the world that >actually works. and the secret? the full commitment of community. >communist systems all over the world have failed because they >were forced on the population against their will. > >set the religious element aside, and its exactly what lennon was >talking about in 'imagine'. > > >Paul > >Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 22:59:42 -0500 >To: seven-seas@smoe.org >From: redhead >Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: amish >Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > >> At 08:06 PM 11/23/2000 -0800, you wrote: >> > >> >what's with all this Amish stuff? Must be in the zeitgeist... there was >> >something on a radio chat show here yesterday morning (in Scotland!) about >> >the Amish. (But they couldn't get them on air to talk as the amish have no >> >phones, so they had someone who lived next door to someone amish... honest.) >> >> Yeah...funny thing about that....they *pretend* to have no phones. >> Fact is...some of 'em have phones...across the road from their houses!! >> No shit!!!! They hide them in the trees where no one can see them. >> They have 'em in little wooden sheds that look like outhouses. I've seen >> 'em talking on them. They pretend to not drive too. They buy a vehichle >> and *give* it to someone they know for free (that way THEY don't *own* it) >> ...all the person has to do is chauffer them around whenever they want to >> go somewhere. Technically, they're not owning or driving the vehichle. >> What kind of bullshit is that??? And why don't they have to pay >> property taxes??? They still own land in this country!! arrrrgh! >> >> >Anyway, what i really want to know is if anyone has any 'must have' music >> >recommendations. >> >> Family of God -Exiter >> Land of Nod -Timeless Point >> >> Red >> >> >> >> ----- >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >> unsubscribe seven-seas >> or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest >> >> Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a >> deceased one. > > > >----- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe seven-seas >or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > >Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a >deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:37:36 -0500 From: redhead Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country At 11:44 AM 11/24/2000 -0000, you wrote: >i bet if they don't use any public utilities like water, I don't use public water. They DO use electricity! I can understand the school tax thing, BUT, if we send our kids to private school....we STILL have to pay school taxes too on top of the private school tuition. Can we just get offa this subject....it just pisses me off. Red - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:42:16 -0500 From: redhead Subject: Re: seven-seas Redneck country What state do you live in Jason? And why do SO MANY people in our state bitch about it then?????????? I happen to work in a grocery store...I see how many Amish use WIC, which is a government benefits program. Whatever....Aarrgggghhh....I'm done with this subject. Red - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:44:51 -0500 From: redhead Subject: Re: Fwd: seven-seas Recommends - but not new At 09:48 AM 11/24/2000 EST, you wrote: >Of course, the new Radiohead is wonderful, but takes repeated listens. I loved it first time around!!! But you're right...it's a must! >Moose's new one, High Ball Me is excellent, Darn...I keep forgetting to get that. Red - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:41:56 -0800 (PST) From: bunnymen_new.uk@excite.co.uk Subject: Re: seven-seas moody digression New Brighton is also a song by It's Immaterial on the album SONG. I recommend both SONG and LIFE'S HARD AND THEN YOU DIE big time. Buying two of each wouldn't be a bad idea!!! Blinkered. > >New Brighton > > Paul wrote: "New Brighton? has the 'Old Brighton' where i live on the south > coast of england suddenly become obsolete since i left for uni? > > where is this New Brighton anyway?" > > --- > It's where scousers spend their summer holidays, or used to. Nice view of > Gladstone Dock from a deck chair. New Brighton prom immortalised by Boo > Radleys song of the same name. > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. > _______________________________________________________ Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/ - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:40:39 -0500 From: "Quiroga, Manuel" Subject: RE: seven-seas Redneck country "I don't use public water. They DO use electricity! I can understand the school tax thing, BUT, if we send our kids to private school....we STILL have to pay school taxes too on top of the private school tuition. Can we just get offa this subject....it just pisses me off. Red" A practical solution: if they use almost the same services as you do, just become a fake amish and don't pay any taxes. It works for them. Nano - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:46:03 -0000 From: "Paul M." 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AMISH RULE! Nano - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:49:52 -0000 From: "Paul M." Subject: Re: seven-seas moody digression suggestion noted. From: bunnymen_new.uk@excite.co.uk Date sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:41:56 -0800 (PST) To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas moody digression Send reply to: seven-seas@smoe.org > New Brighton is also a song by It's Immaterial on the album SONG. > I recommend both SONG and LIFE'S HARD AND THEN YOU DIE big time. Buying two > of each wouldn't be a bad idea!!! > > Blinkered. > > > > >New Brighton > > > > Paul wrote: "New Brighton? has the 'Old Brighton' where i live on the > south > > coast of england suddenly become obsolete since i left for uni? > > > > where is this New Brighton anyway?" > > > > --- > > It's where scousers spend their summer holidays, or used to. Nice view of > > > Gladstone Dock from a deck chair. New Brighton prom immortalised by Boo > > Radleys song of the same name. > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > ----- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > > unsubscribe seven-seas > > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > > deceased one. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK > Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/ > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a > deceased one. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest Carnahan '00--finally objective proof that the best politician is a deceased one. ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V5 #396 ******************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to seven-seas-owner@smoe.org