From: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V5 #354 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Wednesday, October 25 2000 Volume 05 : Number 354 Ye Olde Seven-Seas Digest and Gazzette seven-seas Other Options? [Martyn White ] seven-seas humming ["Peter Burnand" ] Re: seven-seas humming [redhead ] Re: seven-seas Other Options? [Caroline Johns ] Re: seven-seas Tops of 2000 [ken ] Re: seven-seas Tops of 2000 [Anne Gleeson ] RE: seven-seas Avalanche ["-=>Zap<=-" ] Re: seven-seas Other Options? ["mark kerr" ] seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case ["Ivan Smith" Zap<=-" ] Re: seven-seas Avalanche ["Stuart Bird" ] seven-seas Gimmemusic ["Sharon Church" ] seven-seas Re: Nap Yap ["MCH" ] Re: seven-seas Avalanche [Teri Nava-Vaughn ] RE: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case ["Charles Pha] Re: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case ["kalhoun" <] Re: seven-seas Re: Nap Yap ["Ivan Smith" ] RE: seven-seas avalanche on Napster ["-=>Zap<=-" ] RE: seven-seas Re: Nap Yap ["-=>Zap<=-" ] RE: seven-seas avalanche on Napster ["Charles Pham" ] Re: Re: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case ["Ivan Smith] Re: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case ["Stuart Bird" Subject: seven-seas Other Options? I didn't have any reply with the site e-mail addresses. I only received a reply when I mailed Toby Chalmers at toby@gimmemusic.co.uk. Give it a try. Cheers Martyn Red wrote "Ditto! I emailed them to find out if all my info was correct, since I had so much trouble getting it to work...no reply." Mark wrote: "I E- MAILED THEM LAST NIGHT AND HAVE STILL HAD NO REPLY OR POSTED INVOICE. EVEN THOUGH THE SITE SAID MY ORDER WAS OK." - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:09:33 GMT From: "Peter Burnand" Subject: seven-seas humming "Mmm..mm-mm..mm-mm..mm, Mm-mm..mm-mm..mm..mm..mm, Mm..mm..mm-mm-mm..mm-mm-mm, Mm-mm..mm..mm-mm..mm..mm-mm..mm-mm-mm." - ----- Just humming "Waiting For My Man" (through a kettle). It sounds great here. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:16:26 -0400 From: redhead Subject: Re: seven-seas humming At 09:09 AM 10/25/2000 GMT, you wrote: >"Mmm..mm-mm..mm-mm..mm, >Mm-mm..mm-mm..mm..mm..mm, >Mm..mm..mm-mm-mm..mm-mm-mm, >Mm-mm..mm..mm-mm..mm..mm-mm..mm-mm-mm." > >----- >Just humming "Waiting For My Man" (through a kettle). It sounds great here. What did you put in your coffee this morning??? heehee Next time....send us a wav file! ;-) Red - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:08:36 +0100 (BST) From: Caroline Johns Subject: Re: seven-seas Other Options? Hi My turn to gripe about gimme.. I ordered Avalanche when the site first came online - had no confirmation, but the site said order was OK. Then came the crash, blah blah. So this week I sent a message to gimme saying `how about it' which seemed to go to every body on the list, their mothers, and anybody within breathing space. Except gimme. Have tried ordering Avalanche everyday this week to no avail. The bunnymen link wasn't even live yesterday! Suddenly got an email from them today saying my original order was fine and will be honoured. Do I believe it, O happy brethren? Do I bollocks. Cheers, C. ************************************ "Drago Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus" ************************************ - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:27:36 -0500 From: ken Subject: Re: seven-seas Tops of 2000 Yeah, the Richard Ashcroft and new Bunnymen ep are definitely in my top ten. I'll have really think about that one (and I guess I still have a couple of months). ken. Anne Gleeson wrote: > I'm not sure I can do this with a full two months left > in the year, but I'll have a go: > > 1. Coldplay > 2. JJ72 > 3. EATB ep > 4. Richard Ashcroft > 5. Doves > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. Motorhomes > 10. Mansun > > I'm keeping some space open since I haven't heard the > Sigur Ros full length yet, and since there's still a > chance that there will be some other releases to > hear.... > > > I can't think of anything from 2000 I like. but > > hovering in my hovel to eatb, > > jamc and Lenny seems to be my appointed task. at > > least my narrow-mindedness > > allows me to pay the bills > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: > http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Anne Gleeson Subject: Re: seven-seas Tops of 2000 Red, if you like I'll run by Amoeba and pick one up for you - just email me the details (to be honest, through my cold medicine haze I don't remember what record you all were talking about) and I'll go over there this weekend at some point. Anne - --- redhead wrote: > At 09:44 AM 10/24/2000 -0700, you wrote: > > >You know, I was recently in Amoeba Records in San > Francisco (in the Haight), > >and they had a bunch of these in the dollar > section...of course I snagged > >one. And it is REALLY good! There are moments when > it has a little > >Underworld feeling to it, but a little more > retro...excellent disc. I also > >recommend it! > > Are you serious??? Wow! Chris Brick doesn't even > have a copy > for himself! You really lucked out finding that > for so cheap! > Are there any more?? > > Red > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the > digest > > And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting > Ken's nads off: > http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:31:13 -0400 From: "-=>Zap<=-" Subject: RE: seven-seas Avalanche normally I wouldn't endorse piracy (hey! quit pointing those damn fingers!) but those butt pirates at gimmemusic deserve some retribution. the bunny EP is on napster, if you dare. (it's only a barely passable 128kbps anyway) you will still want the cd IF/WHEN they get their shit together. also I have a spiffy new version of love will tear us apart (joy division) as done by the cure a few days ago in Australia (for radio) napster name is zap3 problems? send sob story to ICQ 36835800 gripes send to idontgiveafuck@yomomma.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:58:45 +0100 From: "mark kerr" Subject: Re: seven-seas Other Options? Just got this, YEEHA. Dear Customer, We are sorry to here that you did not receive your confirmation for your order placed with GimmeMusic. We can confirm that we have received your order. If you have ordered a CD it will be with you shortly. Please accept our apologies for any confusion caused. BRgds, Aqua E-Commerce Suppot Team. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Martyn White To: seven-seas Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 9:16 AM Subject: seven-seas Other Options? > I didn't have any reply with the site e-mail addresses. I only received > a reply when I mailed Toby Chalmers at toby@gimmemusic.co.uk. Give it a > try. > > Cheers > > Martyn > > Red wrote "Ditto! I emailed them to find out if all my info was > correct, since I had so much trouble getting it to work...no reply." > > > Mark wrote: "I E- MAILED THEM LAST NIGHT AND HAVE STILL HAD NO REPLY OR > POSTED INVOICE. EVEN THOUGH THE SITE SAID MY ORDER WAS OK." > > > > > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: > http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.htm l > > - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:40:14 -0700 From: "Charles Pham" Subject: RE: seven-seas Avalanche Sorry. But it really doesn't hurt Gimmemusic as much as it would the Bunnymen. Sure, Napster it. I would, if I didn't already have it. But do them a decent favor, buy the EP... Charles Pham Nirve Interactive 1801 Century Park East Suite 300 Century City, CA 90067 310.552.0075 323.273.1550 cell 310.552.0891 fax charles@nirve.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of -=>Zap<=- Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:31 PM To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: RE: seven-seas Avalanche normally I wouldn't endorse piracy (hey! quit pointing those damn fingers!) but those butt pirates at gimmemusic deserve some retribution. the bunny EP is on napster, if you dare. (it's only a barely passable 128kbps anyway) you will still want the cd IF/WHEN they get their shit together. also I have a spiffy new version of love will tear us apart (joy division) as done by the cure a few days ago in Australia (for radio) napster name is zap3 problems? send sob story to ICQ 36835800 gripes send to idontgiveafuck@yomomma.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.htm l - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:32:10 -0700 From: "Ivan Smith" Subject: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case - ---- Begin Original Message ---- >From: "-=>Zap<=-" >normally I wouldn't endorse piracy >but those butt pirates at gimmemusic >deserve some retribution. Although you feel you are only hurting Gimmemusic by putting these tracks on Napster, Dennis, I must tell you that you're wrong in this matter. Gimmemusic is not one of the big bad major labels, thus a much larger slice of the pie from the sale of this release is/was to go to the Bunnymen. It is their pockets, in this instance, that you are robbing. I do believe that this disc/these tracks will be released in the somewhat future through much more reliable means. Please, folks, be patient for the sake of the band, not the sake of the label. - -Ivan BunnyFans - get your free web-based bunnEmail at http://bunnEmail.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:48:56 -0400 From: "-=>Zap<=-" Subject: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case at 128kbps for 50 pence cheaper than the tangible version the band is screwing people anyway. I know that you disagree and that alot of other people may too... it should cost half what the tangible version cost and be 192kbps. get real NO overhead. it's pure evil and I will not buy into the fact that butt raping people is good if the band gets a chunk of the action... and if the band thinks otherwise I got 2 nuts, and both will and Ian can suck one each. I respect them as musicians but if this is there doing as business execs then they need to sign a contract and let someone else run the show. - -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Smith [mailto:Ivan@bunnEmail.zzn.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:32 PM To: seven-seas@smoe.org; zap@softhome.net Subject: RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case - ---- Begin Original Message ---- >From: "-=>Zap<=-" >normally I wouldn't endorse piracy >but those butt pirates at gimmemusic >deserve some retribution. Although you feel you are only hurting Gimmemusic by putting these tracks on Napster, Dennis, I must tell you that you're wrong in this matter. Gimmemusic is not one of the big bad major labels, thus a much larger slice of the pie from the sale of this release is/was to go to the Bunnymen. It is their pockets, in this instance, that you are robbing. I do believe that this disc/these tracks will be released in the somewhat future through much more reliable means. Please, folks, be patient for the sake of the band, not the sake of the label. - -Ivan BunnyFans - get your free web-based bunnEmail at http://bunnEmail.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:55:42 +0100 From: "Stuart Bird" Subject: Re: seven-seas Avalanche Well, As the s(h)ite still won't accept my card details, I've e-mailed them to ask for a direct contact at Bunnymen management to whom I can send a cheque... I can get hold of the tracks now, but won't until I know that the band have been paid. Surprise surprise, I've had no reply from gimmemusic. Frankly, I hope they sink without trace. They've no right to start a business promising this and that if they can't get the damn thing right. From a business point of view, you wouldn't accept this level of incompetence from say, your utility suppliers, amazon etc.. This ain't no difference...... and there's almost a case for a restricted trading practice writ via trading standards to be taken out on these arseholes, but I bet there's a loophole they could slime through.... Over & out. Stu - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Pham To: seven-seas@smoe.org Date: 25 October 2000 22:35 Subject: RE: seven-seas Avalanche >Sorry. But it really doesn't hurt Gimmemusic as much as it would the >Bunnymen. >Sure, Napster it. I would, if I didn't already have it. But do them a >decent favor, buy the EP... > >Charles Pham >Nirve Interactive >1801 Century Park East >Suite 300 >Century City, CA 90067 >310.552.0075 >323.273.1550 cell >310.552.0891 fax >charles@nirve.com > > -----Original Message----- >From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On >Behalf Of -=>Zap<=- >Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:31 PM >To: seven-seas@smoe.org >Subject: RE: seven-seas Avalanche > >normally I wouldn't endorse piracy >(hey! quit pointing those damn fingers!) >but those butt pirates at gimmemusic >deserve some retribution. >the bunny EP is on napster, if you dare. >(it's only a barely passable 128kbps anyway) >you will still want the cd IF/WHEN they >get their shit together. > >also I have a spiffy new version of >love will tear us apart (joy division) >as done by the cure a few days ago >in Australia (for radio) > >napster name is zap3 >problems? send sob story to ICQ 36835800 >gripes send to idontgiveafuck@yomomma.com > > > > >----- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe seven-seas >or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > >And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: >http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.ht m >l > > > > >----- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe seven-seas >or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > >And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: >http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.ht ml > - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:12:35 +0100 From: "Sharon Church" Subject: seven-seas Gimmemusic I see there's a very small advert in NME this week.. Sharon - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:19:59 -0700 From: "MCH" Subject: seven-seas Re: Nap Yap > are robbing. I do believe that this disc/these tracks will be > released in the somewhat future through much more reliable means. > Please, folks, be patient for the sake of the band, not the sake of > the label. Napster files are just good promotions. Fans can hear the tracks and then will buy the disc when it is made easy for them to do so. Napping the files helps the band by relieving fan frustration, allowing them to be patient with the "fiasco squad" or whoever it is that's causing the probs ... Go Napster, go! Good Napster! See fans download. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:19:36 -0400 From: Teri Nava-Vaughn Subject: Re: seven-seas Avalanche Does the disk EP have real quality or is it the same as the files you could have downloaded? If not, how about I napster it and send Will a cheque. Then I get to hear the low quality files, the Bunnymen make more money than they would have off gimmemusic, and we're both happy. - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:25:10 -0700 From: "Charles Pham" Subject: RE: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case I like your rational (extreme sarcasm here). It's nice that you find that a measly few quid is highway robbery. And it's nice for you to neglect the fact that it does cost a few dollars and cents for a song to be produced. And it's really nice to forget the fact that this is probably done out of their own pockets, since there is no phat record-label kat in the background throwing huge cash advances. Smart. Charles Pham Nirve Interactive 1801 Century Park East Suite 300 Century City, CA 90067 310.552.0075 323.273.1550 cell 310.552.0891 fax charles@nirve.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of -=>Zap<=- Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 2:49 PM To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case at 128kbps for 50 pence cheaper than the tangible version the band is screwing people anyway. I know that you disagree and that alot of other people may too... it should cost half what the tangible version cost and be 192kbps. get real NO overhead. it's pure evil and I will not buy into the fact that butt raping people is good if the band gets a chunk of the action... and if the band thinks otherwise I got 2 nuts, and both will and Ian can suck one each. I respect them as musicians but if this is there doing as business execs then they need to sign a contract and let someone else run the show. - -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Smith [mailto:Ivan@bunnEmail.zzn.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:32 PM To: seven-seas@smoe.org; zap@softhome.net Subject: RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case - ---- Begin Original Message ---- >From: "-=>Zap<=-" >normally I wouldn't endorse piracy >but those butt pirates at gimmemusic >deserve some retribution. Although you feel you are only hurting Gimmemusic by putting these tracks on Napster, Dennis, I must tell you that you're wrong in this matter. Gimmemusic is not one of the big bad major labels, thus a much larger slice of the pie from the sale of this release is/was to go to the Bunnymen. It is their pockets, in this instance, that you are robbing. I do believe that this disc/these tracks will be released in the somewhat future through much more reliable means. Please, folks, be patient for the sake of the band, not the sake of the label. - -Ivan BunnyFans - get your free web-based bunnEmail at http://bunnEmail.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.htm l - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:46:29 -0700 From: "kalhoun" Subject: Re: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case is gimmemusic it? or will it ever be available anywhere else? i'm not sure if my order went through either time... tim - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Pham" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 3:25 PM Subject: RE: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case > I like your rational (extreme sarcasm here). It's nice that you find that a > measly few quid is highway robbery. And it's nice for you to neglect the > fact that it does cost a few dollars and cents for a song to be produced. > And it's really nice to forget the fact that this is probably done out of > their own pockets, since there is no phat record-label kat in the background > throwing huge cash advances. > > Smart. > > Charles Pham > Nirve Interactive > 1801 Century Park East > Suite 300 > Century City, CA 90067 > 310.552.0075 > 323.273.1550 cell > 310.552.0891 fax > charles@nirve.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of -=>Zap<=- > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 2:49 PM > To: seven-seas@smoe.org > Subject: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not > the label in this case > > at 128kbps for 50 pence cheaper than > the tangible version the band is screwing > people anyway. I know that you disagree > and that alot of other people may too... > it should cost half what the tangible > version cost and be 192kbps. > get real NO overhead. it's pure evil > and I will not buy into the fact that > butt raping people is good if the band > gets a chunk of the action... > and if the band thinks otherwise > I got 2 nuts, and both will and Ian > can suck one each. > I respect them as musicians but if this > is there doing as business execs then > they need to sign a contract and let someone > else run the show. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Smith [mailto:Ivan@bunnEmail.zzn.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:32 PM > To: seven-seas@smoe.org; zap@softhome.net > Subject: RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the > label in this case > > > > ---- Begin Original Message ---- > > >From: "-=>Zap<=-" > >normally I wouldn't endorse piracy > >but those butt pirates at gimmemusic > >deserve some retribution. > > Although you feel you are only hurting Gimmemusic by putting these > tracks on Napster, Dennis, I must tell you that you're wrong in this > matter. Gimmemusic is not one of the big bad major labels, thus a > much larger slice of the pie from the sale of this release is/was to > go to the Bunnymen. It is their pockets, in this instance, that you > are robbing. I do believe that this disc/these tracks will be > released in the somewhat future through much more reliable means. > Please, folks, be patient for the sake of the band, not the sake of > the label. > > -Ivan > > BunnyFans - get your free web-based bunnEmail at http://bunnEmail.zzn.com > ____________________________________________________________ > Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com > > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: > http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.htm > l > > > > > ----- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe seven-seas > or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > > And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: > http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.htm l > > - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:45:41 -0700 From: "Ivan Smith" Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: Nap Yap >>Napster files are just good promotions.  Fans can hear the tracks >>and then will buy the disc when it is made easy for them to do so. I would agree if it weren't for the fact that someone already is asking on the band's bulletin board about acquiring the cover artwork. do you think this individual is going to purchase? NO ! They've burned the disc, probably from Napster, and now want the nice little insert. What's to stop them from going one step further and posting this elusive nugget on E-BAY? I think Napster is great in some cases-in which either a band is tied to a major label, and thy're not gonna be hurt much by it, or when a small unknown act is trying to get exposure. I, as a completeist will acquire the legal versions of as much of the Bunnymen's catalogue as I can obtain, But...the holes are filled with bootleg copies. - -Ivan BunnyFans - get your free web-based bunnEmail at http://bunnEmail.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:54:15 -0400 From: "-=>Zap<=-" Subject: RE: seven-seas avalanche on Napster you can feed me crap all day... but you can't make me swallow. mp3 is a modern day version of the radio anyone who disagrees can suck a turd out my big phat hairy bunghole. I'm sure it DOES cost something to rehash other peoples and their own stuff, and stick us all with the bill. but OH the 1 glorious new track makes it worth it... you have more money than sense. not that any of that even matters because it's not easy to get it from gimmeaheadache anyway... don't worry I'll buy it, when it's not rocket science any more. this EP should have been tour merchandise anyway as it's NOT worth a full scale release status. - -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Charles Pham I like your rational (extreme sarcasm here). - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:15:58 -0400 From: "-=>Zap<=-" Subject: RE: seven-seas Re: Nap Yap a cd burnt from those 128kbps mp3's is more painful to listen to than it is enjoyable... not worth the 10 cents I pay for a blank disc and certainly not worth the 10+$ it would take for download privileges from gimmesomevaseline the legit hard copy of the disc.... okay 10$ no biggie... - -----Original Message----- >>Napster files are just good promotions.  Fans can hear the tracks >>and then will buy the disc when it is made easy for them to do so. I would agree if it weren't for the fact that someone already is asking on the band's bulletin board about acquiring the cover artwork. do you think this individual is going to purchase? NO ! - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:23:33 -0700 From: "Charles Pham" Subject: RE: seven-seas avalanche on Napster Nice. Very nice. Charles Pham Nirve Interactive 1801 Century Park East Suite 300 Century City, CA 90067 310.552.0075 323.273.1550 cell 310.552.0891 fax charles@nirve.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of -=>Zap<=- Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 3:54 PM To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: RE: seven-seas avalanche on Napster you can feed me crap all day... but you can't make me swallow. mp3 is a modern day version of the radio anyone who disagrees can suck a turd out my big phat hairy bunghole. I'm sure it DOES cost something to rehash other peoples and their own stuff, and stick us all with the bill. but OH the 1 glorious new track makes it worth it... you have more money than sense. not that any of that even matters because it's not easy to get it from gimmeaheadache anyway... don't worry I'll buy it, when it's not rocket science any more. this EP should have been tour merchandise anyway as it's NOT worth a full scale release status. - -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Charles Pham I like your rational (extreme sarcasm here). - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.htm l - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:36:28 -0700 From: "Ivan Smith" Subject: Re: Re: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case >is gimmemusic it? or will it ever be available anywhere else? i'm >not sure if my order went through either time... >tim Because of the Gimme Music debacle, the band/management are working on an alternate form of distribution for this and future releases. But, these things take a bit of time to organize and set up. - -Ivan BunnyFans - get your free web-based bunnEmail at http://bunnEmail.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:34:00 +0100 From: "Stuart Bird" Subject: Re: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case Ok.. one more from me and I'll go silent again.... All I want is a name and address of someone in the Bunny management camp so that I can post them a cheque.... I'll give THEM the whole 7 pounds 50p, and I'll also grab the artwork if I can get it...... By doing this, I AM putting the band first, not those twats at gimmemusic.... It's like having Laurel and Hardy pilot your aeroplane for you.. Yes, I have instant 24 hr access to these songs, but I WILL NOT listen to them until the band are paid..... If anyone can help me with that name and addy, please e me off-list. Thanks, Stu Treat every day as if it were your last, because one day you will be right. - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Pham To: seven-seas@smoe.org Date: 25 October 2000 23:37 Subject: RE: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the label in this case >I like your rational (extreme sarcasm here). It's nice that you find that a >measly few quid is highway robbery. And it's nice for you to neglect the >fact that it does cost a few dollars and cents for a song to be produced. >And it's really nice to forget the fact that this is probably done out of >their own pockets, since there is no phat record-label kat in the background >throwing huge cash advances. > >Smart. > >Charles Pham >Nirve Interactive >1801 Century Park East >Suite 300 >Century City, CA 90067 >310.552.0075 >323.273.1550 cell >310.552.0891 fax >charles@nirve.com > > -----Original Message----- >From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On >Behalf Of -=>Zap<=- >Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 2:49 PM >To: seven-seas@smoe.org >Subject: seven-seas RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not >the label in this case > >at 128kbps for 50 pence cheaper than >the tangible version the band is screwing >people anyway. I know that you disagree >and that alot of other people may too... >it should cost half what the tangible >version cost and be 192kbps. >get real NO overhead. it's pure evil >and I will not buy into the fact that >butt raping people is good if the band >gets a chunk of the action... >and if the band thinks otherwise >I got 2 nuts, and both will and Ian >can suck one each. >I respect them as musicians but if this >is there doing as business execs then >they need to sign a contract and let someone >else run the show. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ivan Smith [mailto:Ivan@bunnEmail.zzn.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:32 PM >To: seven-seas@smoe.org; zap@softhome.net >Subject: RE: avalanche on Napster - you're hurting the band, not the >label in this case > > > >---- Begin Original Message ---- > >>From: "-=>Zap<=-" >>normally I wouldn't endorse piracy >>but those butt pirates at gimmemusic >>deserve some retribution. > >Although you feel you are only hurting Gimmemusic by putting these >tracks on Napster, Dennis, I must tell you that you're wrong in this >matter. Gimmemusic is not one of the big bad major labels, thus a >much larger slice of the pie from the sale of this release is/was to >go to the Bunnymen. It is their pockets, in this instance, that you >are robbing. I do believe that this disc/these tracks will be >released in the somewhat future through much more reliable means. >Please, folks, be patient for the sake of the band, not the sake of >the label. > >-Ivan > >BunnyFans - get your free web-based bunnEmail at http://bunnEmail.zzn.com >____________________________________________________________ >Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com > > > > >----- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe seven-seas >or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > >And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: >http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.ht m >l > > > > >----- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe seven-seas >or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest > >And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: >http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.ht ml > - ----- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe seven-seas or unsubscribe seven-seas-digest to get off the digest And here we thought Mattel was happy just cutting Ken's nads off: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index2.html ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V5 #354 ******************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to seven-seas-owner@smoe.org