From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V4 #565 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Thursday, December 1 2005 Volume 04 : Number 565 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:24:57 -0500 From: Brian Andersen Subject: Re: seven-seas: paradiso amsterdam I dunno I had the opposite reaction, I was listening to the Paradiso gig in the car too and while the band sounds tight, Mac's cracking voice and "honking" was just too much for me. Its as if he sings from his throat and nose now instead of from inside him. I found myself skipping songs because i thought it was terrible. Every now and then I was impressed with Mac but that was few and far between. Ironically the worst songs to me were the new ones. Everybody keeps saying how he writes songs for the way he sings now but I just thought it was dreadful to the point were I actually cringed at points. It's not like I wish he sang like when he was 20 something again, but I really thought the new ones would sound great after hearing Siberia. I really wish I didn't feel this way but hearing this does not make me sad I missed them this tour. On 11/30/05, Steve Griffiths wrote: > Sad, but I wasn't prepared to buy tickets to a gig where I possibly was > again going to leave feeling cheated, as I had basically every time since > LIPA. > > I've been listening to the Paradiso gig in my car every day going to work, > Mac sounds like he is enjoying himself, the sound is great, the band are > tight. > > New life has been breathed into the HUH tracks, especially Over The Wall, > and the drummer has his own slant on the De Frietas style. > > Macs voice is back to 'on the edge of breaking but holding it together' > which I always loved. > > Looks like there is still life in the old bunnys yet and you may just see me > at a gig again soon. > > Steve G. > > > From: "Red" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:39 PM > > Subject: Re: seven-seas: paradiso amsterdam > > > > > > > At 12:29 PM 11/28/05, you wrote: > > > > > > >If it was, I will be gutted I did not go! > > > >'Scissors' going straight into 'All That Jazz' works great. > > > > > > > > > You should be gutted! All 3 shows I saw in the states were blinding!!! > > > I think they had more energy and loud sound on this tour than > > > any shows I've seen in a while. :-) Pity you didn't go. :-( > > > > > > Red > > > > ===================================================================== > Bunnymen Online Presence: > http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info > * > http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ > * > http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ > * > http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 > * > > ====================================================================== > > - -- - -Brian Andersen bandersen65@gmail.com ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:10:47 +0000 From: "Matt" Subject: Re: seven-seas: paradiso amsterdam >while the band sounds tight, Mac's cracking >voice and "honking" was just too much for me. >Its as if he sings from his throat and nose >now instead of from inside him. I found myself >skipping songs because i thought it was terrible. >..but I just thought it was dreadful to the point >were I actually cringed at points. Amen to that. Yes, we live in a small country over here, but it just isn't worth the journey any more, as far as I'm concerned. I'll go and see them if they ever bother to come to Bristol again, but that's as far as I'm prepared to go. Ho hum. Echo and the Bunnymen | the official website: http://www.bunnymen.com ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:44:01 +1300 From: "Kristin Smith" Subject: seven-seas straight.com http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=14545 Bunnymen return to fighting form on Siberia By john lucas Publish Date: 1-Dec-2005 As the clichC) says, you canbt go home again. In rock bnb roll terms, this often means that veteran acts seldom recapture the spark that powered their pivotal moments. Just as the Rolling Stones are unlikely to pen another song with the speaker-shattering impact of b(I Canbt Get No) Satisfactionb, b80s survivors Echo and the Bunnymen will no doubt never craft anything to rival bThe Cutterb or bThe Killing Moonb. That said, therebs life in the old boys yet, and Siberia, the Bunnymenbs latest offering, is fresher than any record from a band that formed in 1978 has any right to be. The group these days is essentially just the duo of singer Ian McCulloch and guitarist Will Sergeant. (Drummer Pete DeFreitas was killed in a motorcycle crash in 1989 and bassist Les Pattinson left the fold in b99.) The pair seem to have tapped into a little of their initial inspiration, making Siberia the best thing theybve done since deciding to resurrect Echo and the Bunnymen in the mid b90s. McCullochbs singing has mellowed into a smoothly tuneful croon, and his lyrics favour mature observations on life and love over the cryptic abstractions of the past. What makes Siberia reminiscent of vintage Bunnymen is Sergeantbs instrumental work. The 11 tracks include all the chiming arpeggios, soaring EBow parts, and out-of-left-field psychedelic flourishes that established him as a guitar god for those whose pantheon of deities includes the likes of Johnny Marr and Peter Buck. Sergeantbs swirling lead lines on bOf a Lifeb and bSideways Eightb are simply stirring, and the chugging riff that powers bScissors in the Sandb shows young pups like Interpol how things should be done. Siberia was produced by Hugh Jones, who was also behind the mixing console for some of the Bunnymenbs finest moments, including the milestone 1981 LP Heaven Up Here. On the phone from New York, Sergeant agrees that having Jones in the picture helped the band bring back some of its classic sound, but says doing so wasnbt necessarily a conscious decision. bObviously therebs elements there that make you think bThat sounds a bit like Heaven Up Here,b or whatever,b the guitarist says. bBut we never stuck Heaven Up Here or Crocodiles on and said, bLetbs make it sound like that.b We just did what we did. I think the combination of me, Mac, and Hughbthe way he records and stuffbobviously, itbs going to sound like the Bunnymen, because thatbs what we are, you know?b Siberia is the fourth studio release since Echo and the Bunnymen re-formed in 1997, but itbs the first one to really get things right. Sergeant admits that 2001bs Flowers, for example, missed the mark because McCullochbs contributions took a back seat to his own. bTherebs a bit of a balance that goes on between me and Mac, and when itbs right, itbs dead right. Sometimes he has too much say and sometimes I have too much say, and I think itbs realizing that, thatbs what the Bunnymen sound is,b he says. One thing Sergeant and McCulloch apparently have little trouble with is coming up with new songs, which means that Siberia is not likely to be the last we hear from the two, who bring Echo and the Bunnymen to Richardbs on Richards on Friday (December 2). bIbd say the hardest thing is having too many ideas,b Sergeant notes. bWe have so many ideas. Youbve got to decide which ones to go with, which ones youbre going to nurture.b Sounds like a nice problem to have. ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * ====================================================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V4 #565 ********************************