From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V4 #455 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Saturday, October 1 2005 Volume 04 : Number 455 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:05:28 -0500 From: Theodore Turner Subject: seven-seas Re: Mac as crooner (Lasts Forever?) I think its fair to say that the more metaphysically poetic wailing Mac of the first batch of records has gone through a (time elapsed) stylistic change to be the more confessional poetic crooning Mac we now hear. This may have something to do with certain losses in range as he's got older, or it could simply be that he's singing different words in a different way - I dunno. But ya, even as crooner you can hear that some of the nuance depth of his instrument has receded a bit, I guess Nothing Lasts Forever, but maybe it does, as I do agree that what has been lost in sheer scope is compensated for with an emotional timbre of nakedness that potentially opens new doors for him as a singer as well. I sometimes remind myself that I am following the career of an artist who (at his peak) was pretty singular in his vocal abilities and scope within the history of pop music. To push it as hard as he did for so may years must have been exhausting, if the dude wants to drop it down a few keys and fly a little closer to earth with as at this point, he's more than earned the extra leg room. I do know that the last time I saw them (2 years ago), he hit every note at the end of Ocean Rain with time machine like epiphanal glory, for 10 seconds I was both 17 again AND lived forever, not bad for Rock & Roll. Happy Saturday, Ted on 10/1/05 8:28 AM, Brian Andersen at bandersen65@gmail.com wrote: > Really?? Regardless of the reasons, Mac's voice is noticably different > than it was even in 99. I don't mean to say it is terrible or anything > but it certainly does not have the range or play of yesteryear and has > lost some of it's uniqueness that drew me to them to begin with. I > guess you just grow used to it over time. > > On 9/30/05, Barry Whiting wrote: > To be fair, I've not really >> noticed the voice thing so there you go... >> > >> Barry Whiting > > > > ===================================================================== > Bunnymen Online Presence: > http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info > * > http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ > * > http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ > * > http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 > * > > ====================================================================== ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:28:56 -0400 From: Red Subject: seven-seas Dirty 3 (someone mentioned Cat Power recently?) For those into the Dirty 3.......(and also, I read somewhere that Dirty Three were Cat Power's backing band on Moon Pix? (I dunno anything about Cat Power, but Dirty 3 are amazing!) Shaz and Loo.....you should go to the show at Wedgewood Rooms!!!! I've seen them live a few times and they're awesome!!!!!! Dirty Three, the Aussies it's okay to like, are set to hit these shores in November in support of their forthcoming opus 'Cinder'. Along with a date with Sophia as part of the ATP 'Don't Look Back' series, they will be weaving their majestic violin-led post-rock at the following venues and dates: November 9 Portsmouth Wedgewood Rooms 10 Liverpool Carling Academy 13 Manchester University 18 Nottingham Rescue Rooms 19 Glasgow ABC2 20 Newcastle Carling Academy 2 21 Birmingham Carling Academy 2 The aformentioned album is set for release on 11th October, featuring vocal contributions from Cat Power (aka Chan Marshall) and Sally Timms. ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Blewett Subject: seven-seas non-killer B's > I don't know why "Hurricaine" made it on to Crystal > Days - seemed to be a forced effort to getting a >latter day b-side on the boxset. Was "Hurricaine" only available on vinyl prior to the box set? I agree that the current crop of b-sides are weak. Do you think that the 11 tracks on Siberia were the entire output of the sessions with Hugh Jones? But hey, those instrumental versions of "Stormy Weather" and "In the Margins" are just the thing for karaoke time at your next party. - --Dave - ----- - ---- - -- - - __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:01:35 +0100 From: "jswee" Subject: Re: seven-seas B-sides R.I.P. What the lyrics mean to me. I like this Lou Reed line, I think it's similiar to "Bring on the Dancing Horses". In this song it says "Billy stands all alone" this I feel has an Irish reference to King Billy (but that's just my impression), Charlie clown no way home (perhaps another Irish reference) & Jimmy Brown (I love made of stone - it's a feeling you sometimes get in life - I'll keep my thoughts to myself about this! but I think of Zimbo). "Hating the faking and I'm shaking while I'm breaking your brittle heart & my little heart rules" ( I love that line!). Jonathan P. Sweeney - ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris adams" To: Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: seven-seas B-sides R.I.P. > Lou Reed once wrote, anyone who ever had a heart wouldnt turn around and break it, and any one who ever played a part, wouldnt turn around and hate it. But Lou, doe-eyed when he wrote that tune, knows better. Weve all broken hearts despite ourselves; weve all played parts that weve loathed (or at least ad-libbed inappropriate lines). And, as the clichi goes life is not a dress rehearsal once its out there, theres no turning back. The fields been levelled, and the act has to be played through. All Because of You Days recognizes this. The song builds on the tense steady thud of a kick drum, reveals its regrets and rationale in slowly climbing increments, and releases a catharctic sorrow in an unforgettable chorus that is simultaneously tearful exorcism, graceful bow-out, and, against all odds, hope. And, despite the heaviness that all that implies, its easily one of the catchiest, most radio-friendly songs the Bunnymen have ever written  top ten with a > broken-hearted bullet. > > > Theodore Turner wrote: > I like this review: this person gets it. > > TT > > > snip... > > > > Yet, if the Bunnymen sound young and invigorated, they have still matured. > > McCulloch no longer yelps like an angst-ridden miscreant; rather, his voice > > now possesses a tender fragility that hints at the loss that inevitably > > comes with time, and the wisdom that compensates for such loss. This is > > particularly evident in "All Because Of You Days". The song is aching and > > gorgeous, an autumnal realization of the inability to recapture what has > > passed. Here McCulloch displays his trademark poetic brooding, ending the > > song with a bittersweet refrain of "Baby... maybe sometime / Maybe next time > > / We'll say hi..." His voice, however, betrays the optimism of the lyrics, > > sounding delicate and slightly shattered. In the background, Sergeant > > bounces solitary notes off the heavens, leaving them to fall around the > > listener. > > > > snip..... > > > > I'd go along with the above and I love the 'bounces solitary > > > > notes off the heavens' line. Of course, I liked the 'yelping' too > > > > but I do like the 'lived in', fragile and deep voice he has now. > > > > Shaz > > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > Bunnymen Online Presence: > > http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info > > * > > http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ > > * > > http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ > > * > > http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 > > * > > > > ====================================================================== > > > > ===================================================================== > Bunnymen Online Presence: > http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info > * > http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ > * > http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ > * > http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 > * > > ====================================================================== > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > > ===================================================================== > Bunnymen Online Presence: > http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info > * > http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ > * > http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ > * > http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 > * > > ====================================================================== > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://www.villiersterrace.com * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * ====================================================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V4 #455 ********************************