From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V4 #160 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Saturday, April 16 2005 Volume 04 : Number 160 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:06:29 +0100 From: "jswee" Subject: seven-seas quote Hi, I know this has little to do with music, but I think it is a brilliant quote - it really starts you dreaming which I think is cool. I work as a teaching assistant at a school for children with Aspergers syndromme. The head gave a talk on motivation in the classroom which probably sounds not to interesting to most of you but the leaflet accompanying the talk had a great quote in it. Hope you like: Nelson Mandela (The Long Walk to Freedom) "Education is the greatest engine of personal development. It is through education that the daughter of a peasant can become a doctor, that the son of a mineworker can become the head of the mine, that a child of farm workers can become the president of a great nation. It is what we make out of what we have, not what we are given, that separates one person from another". I read John Hume's biography (ex leader of the SDLP) by George Drower which is a fantastic book. He said that it is not territories that have rights but people which I think it a fantastic view of equality and the world. I wrote my dissertation at University on "race & racism" in Liverpool, my views change with the more I read. Everything influences views in the world from music to magazines & papers. It's hard to formulate oppinions at times. I know the Bunnymen used to influence my oppinions when I was younger. I'm not religious but like the idea of having a Soul. Hope you enjoy the quote, All the best. Jon Sweeney ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://bunnymen.nexuswebs.net/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * http://www.neonhalos.blogspot.com ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:23:27 +0100 From: "jswee" Subject: seven-seas woxy Hi, I attempted to listen to woxy music through the internet but it became disjointed & I used Windows Media player. I did catch a disjointed version of the Verve's "Sonnet" I think! but it is really difficult it appears to cut off once in a while. Any suggestions. Jon Sweeney. Plus - What songs did Brian Anderson play on the station? Ps I really need to improve my ICT skills! ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://bunnymen.nexuswebs.net/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * http://www.neonhalos.blogspot.com ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:10:30 -0400 From: Brian Andersen Subject: Re: seven-seas woxy hmmm, sorry it didn't work for you, I ripped the stream fine from here. I didn't pick Do It Clean, I picked Heaven Up Here, so I am not sure how that got in there, I guess they were unable to locate it in their library Time Song Artist 09:57 am Stella Was A Diver... Interpol 10:03 am Redemption Song Johnny Cash 10:07 am Do It Clean Echo & The Bunnymen 10:09 am Into You Like A Train The Psychedelic Furs 10:14 am Moby Octopad Yo La Tengo 10:19 am C.R.E.E.P. The Fall 10:22 am Dream Small Poster Children 10:26 am Old Soul Song Bright Eyes 10:30 am Weirdo The Charlatans UK 10:34 am Long Live Doug Howlin' Maggie 10:38 am Paint The Silence South 10:43 am Sonnet The Verve 10:47 am Wave Of Mutilation Pixies 10:49 am Rise Doves 10:55 am A Punchup At A Wedding Radiohead On 4/16/05, jswee wrote: > Hi, > > I attempted to listen to woxy music through the internet but it became > disjointed & I used Windows Media player. I did catch a disjointed version of > the Verve's "Sonnet" I think! but it is really difficult it appears to cut off > once in a while. > > Any suggestions. > > Jon Sweeney. > > Plus - What songs did Brian Anderson play on the station? > > Ps I really need to improve my ICT skills! > > ===================================================================== > Bunnymen Online Presence: > http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info > * > http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ > * > http://bunnymen.nexuswebs.net/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ > * > http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 > * > http://www.neonhalos.blogspot.com > > ====================================================================== > > - -- - -Brian Andersen bandersen65@gmail.com ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://bunnymen.nexuswebs.net/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * http://www.neonhalos.blogspot.com ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:20:44 +1200 From: "Kristin Smith" Subject: seven-seas [2 of 2] =?utf-8?B?IldoeQ==?= British bands are the best at being =?utf-8?B?YmlnIg==?= [2 of 2] Goldsmith cites the Stones, Pink Floyd, the Who and Queen as the greatest stadium bands ever. "Queen had all the anthems, they had production values, and Freddie Mercury had soul, too, which is something that's often overlooked. It's a two-way process, playing live, the audience reacting to the band and the band on stage reacting to the audience, and somehow he always managed to keep that interplay going." We are not talking about solo artists here, which I regard as a special case. In solo terms, the US may be ahead of the UK. They can boast Elvis, Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen as undisputable universal greats. We have Paul, Elton and Rod. I am restricting myself to the case of the rock band, the unique chemistry conjured by a group of individuals playing guitars, bass and drums. And, to my mind, the greatest rock bands of all time are British. The Beatles were the first stadium band, although their tiny amplifiers (designed for clubs) could not compete with the volume of screams at Shea Stadium in 1965. The Stones, the Who, Pink Floyd and Genesis all took it further, finding a way to use those vast spaces. "The British bands had great production values, they brought a lot of ideas from the art world and theatre into their shows," says Goldsmith. "In the early days, the big American bands just went out and played. They came up as big draws on the live circuit in America and saw stadiums as an extension of that. They picked up on the production thing later and went to town on it, which is where Kiss come in." Kiss: a bunch of men in lurid make-up sticking their tongues out and playing heavy metal power-pop with stupid lyrics. They were the biggest-selling American rock band of the mid-'70s. In the UK, we had Led Zeppelin, a phenomenal blues and folk-based hard rock outfit whose records still resonate today. "When you become part of the mass consciousness, your currency changes - whatever your original intentions were," says former Zeppelin vocalist Robert Plant. "I think we are now considered some stalwart of British rock, which doesn't take into account the variety and colours created by that group. Zeppelin were never a middle of the road band, we were really quite fearsome, but we took the imagination of a lot of people with us. We were always striking out for higher ground and it was always based on musical integrity." British rock comes out of art schools and universities. It is music of ideas, with originality and vision often admired above musicianship. It is forged in the glare of the merciless British music press. In a small country, with a limited live circuit and almost claustrophobic media, bands have to be very strong to survive, and very brilliant to flourish. US rock, by contrast, is forged on the road. In a huge country with an enormous population, American bands tour relentlessly, learning their skills in front of live audiences. It can result in very high levels of musical ability, but it is also a recipe for creating highly accomplished, road warrior showbands who pander to the lowest common denominator. American bands tend to have a whole set of cover versions at their fingertips. British bands, on the other hand, sometimes appear to be struggling just to play their own set. But this may actually work in their favour. As The Edge, guitarist with U2, explains: "U2 are the worst bar band in the world. The reason we developed the unique style that we have is because that was the only way forward, it was the approach that suited our rather schizophrenic and uneven talents." In the '80s, U2 began their ascent to becoming the greatest, most passionate and innovative stadium rock band of our times. During the same period, America gave us Bon Jovi, jumped-up bar-room rock with big hair. In the '90s, things took on a slightly different complexion. Britain gave us Oasis and Radiohead but they were easily matched by the best America had to offer. REM had their moment at the top of the pile with albums as soulful and inventive as any in rock's canon, although, for all their gifts, there is a quirkiness to the band that has not sustained them on the stadium frontline. And then along came Nirvana, who, for raw passion, addictive hooks and global resonance, can surely lay some claim of their own to the title of greatest American rock band of all time. Yet their career was cut short so dramatically, their place in rock's canon essentially comes down to one universally loved album, Nevermind, and the almost mythical impact created by Kurt Cobain's suicide (which puts him in the elite company of Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix, all-time greats who never got to fulfil their potential). Instead, the most enduring American stadium band of the '90s turned out to be funk-rock outfit the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, a band formerly given to performing naked but for strategically-placed socks. And it is those notorious socks, perhaps, that define the gulf between the great British and American rock bands. Clearly, for the Chilli Peppers, size matters. They are about spectacle and entertainment and not much more besides. The great British bands all have something beneath the surface, something that resonates deeply with their listeners. These are bands whose greatness would not be in doubt, no matter how many people tuned in. As Plant said of Led Zeppelin, they were striking for higher ground. It is the world of difference between wearing your heart on your sleeve and knitted footwear on your member. ===================================================================== Bunnymen Online Presence: http://www.bunnymenlist.com * http://www.bunnymen.info * http://www.bunnymen.com * http://www.fotolog.net/sgtfuzz/ * http://bunnymen.nexuswebs.net/ * http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/discog/ * http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-887128-89-6 * http://www.neonhalos.blogspot.com ====================================================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V4 #160 ********************************