From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V3 #240 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Friday, July 23 2004 Volume 03 : Number 240 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:29:50 -0700 (PDT) From: chris adams Subject: RE: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth That "Curvature" piece is an extremely bad review. It's poorly written, obviously tossed together within fifteen minutes after reading the press release, and offers no particular insight into the music at all. It's also spiteful for no apparent reason. A pedestrian effort. The NME needs some people who know their shit and can fukkin string a word or two together, not these nosepickin' little twerps who lend themselves some sort of authority that is grossly absent from their written product. One out of 5 stars. Noose Boy wrote: It's weird their writers seem to be a particular breed. I know other writers that don't have their heads half way up you know where. In fact Chris, my best friend, has just been doing a Killing Joke piece for Record Collector. Tells me Youth has been working on the new Embrace LP which Chris Martin has written a song for - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of shaz Sent: 23 July 2004 12:23 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth yeah, we don't buy it anymore for same reason but had this copy given to us....I'll use it to wrap the rubbish in!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noose Boy" To: Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:35 AM Subject: RE: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth > Kinda thing I'd expect from the NME which is why I don't read it > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Shaz > Sent: 22 July 2004 22:40 > To: Seven-seas; villiers-terrace@yahoogroups.com > Subject: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth > > 2 out of 10 > > Apparently, Glide - or Will Sergeant to his mum - was once the most > celebrated > guitarist of his generation in one of the > most important bands of the last 25 years, Jive Bunny and > the Echomen or something. Not that you'd be able to tell from 'Cof the > E', > right enough. The pictures on the inside sleeve betray a one time axe > god > reduced to the likeness of a bus-station bum panhandling for 50p. Worse > still, the music is the most superfluous sonic wallpaper you'll come > across > this side of 'Essential Chill Out vol 673'. Largely instrumental, > partially > indedbited to Air and Daft Punk (see the sole highlight ' I have seen > the > sunlight' and wholly boring, NME only managed to stay awake throughout > these > 11 crushingly pedestrian tracks by necking Vim'n'tonic and plucking out > public > hairs every 30 seconds. Not even Ian McCulloch could reduce us to that. > > Barry Nicolson > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > ------- > > funny guy (NOT)........... owes something to Air and Daft > Punk!!!!!!!!!???? I > think not..... > > please excuse the typing - did it quick didn't check it... > > oh dear......they gave Polymoronic Spree 8 out of 10 ;-) > > Shaz > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:48:20 -0400 From: wynd Subject: Re: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth More navel gazing. Or should I say pubic hair gazing. Anybody short-sighted enough to even think of plucking their pubic hair deserves the red pimply rash to come. I don't like music reviews, good or bad. I don't like critics of the creative arts, period, unless it's a direct constructive thing between the artist and the critic. Too often these critics are just loving the sound of their own voice to no purpose (and is it just me, or is this especially rampant in music reviews??). I am waiting for the day when you can read a review online that will be peppered with actual music clips demonstrating exactly and precisely to what the critic is referring. Barry Nicholson, eh? On Friday, July 23, 2004, at 11:29 AM, chris adams wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On >> Behalf Of Shaz >> Sent: 22 July 2004 22:40 >> To: Seven-seas; villiers-terrace@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:39:58 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stu=20Bird?= Subject: RE: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth Good post Chris.. Unfortunately, the state of the UK music media is at it's lowest. When I was a schoolboy, I used to be able to buy Melody Maker, Sounds, or NME on a Wednesday morning. Now each had their particular slant, but reading 2, or even all 3 publications gave a great all round information base. Gradually, Sounds and MM have disappeared leaving the NME the sole weekly music "newspaper". The magazine side of things has got just as bad if not worse.. They aren't really considered to be at the cutting edge of new music. Yes we have the likes of Kerrang, but that's purely big-hair so it's a niche mag, along with all the others.. Mixmag, Rocksound, Psychedelic Plectrum ( okay, I made that up ) etc. So, back to the NME... They have the monopoly on indroducing music to the masses via newsprint, and all it then needs is some of their hacks infiltrating the national radio offering review slots on air and you can see just how bad things are. Listening to Radio 1, you can trace direct plugs for bands which then appear in print in the NME the following week. They try to build their credability from each other. It's self -perpetuating. Tell people enough times and eventually they will believe it.. The Strokes, The White Stripes, The Vines, The Libertines, Coldplay, Keane are all classic examples of this.. Some are justified IMO, others sound like a bag of spanners IMO. The only answer is for more weekly national music papers.. It ain't gonna happen due to costs etc.. I used to love writing reviews, and I can tell you now that from experience, the record companies and artist's management don't give a crap if they get good or bad reviews, so long as they get a review. I've lost the mail now, but I had that written to me from Depeche Mode's management when I nearly missed a deadline on Exciter. How many times have you read a live/album/single review and thought "why didn't they give this to someone who actually likes this music" ? BINGO !! Okay, I guess I've ranted enough... Peace all, Stu chris adams wrote: That "Curvature" piece is an extremely bad review. It's poorly written, obviously tossed together within fifteen minutes after reading the press release, and offers no particular insight into the music at all. It's also spiteful for no apparent reason. A pedestrian effort. The NME needs some people who know their shit and can fukkin string a word or two together, not these nosepickin' little twerps who lend themselves some sort of authority that is grossly absent from their written product. One out of 5 stars. Noose Boy wrote: It's weird their writers seem to be a particular breed. I know other writers that don't have their heads half way up you know where. In fact Chris, my best friend, has just been doing a Killing Joke piece for Record Collector. Tells me Youth has been working on the new Embrace LP which Chris Martin has written a song for - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of shaz Sent: 23 July 2004 12:23 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth yeah, we don't buy it anymore for same reason but had this copy given to us....I'll use it to wrap the rubbish in!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noose Boy" To: Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:35 AM Subject: RE: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth > Kinda thing I'd expect from the NME which is why I don't read it > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Shaz > Sent: 22 July 2004 22:40 > To: Seven-seas; villiers-terrace@yahoogroups.com > Subject: seven-seas NME review of Curvature of the Earth > > 2 out of 10 > > Apparently, Glide - or Will Sergeant to his mum - was once the most > celebrated > guitarist of his generation in one of the > most important bands of the last 25 years, Jive Bunny and > the Echomen or something. Not that you'd be able to tell from 'Cof the > E', > right enough. The pictures on the inside sleeve betray a one time axe > god > reduced to the likeness of a bus-station bum panhandling for 50p. Worse > still, the music is the most superfluous sonic wallpaper you'll come > across > this side of 'Essential Chill Out vol 673'. Largely instrumental, > partially > indedbited to Air and Daft Punk (see the sole highlight ' I have seen > the > sunlight' and wholly boring, NME only managed to stay awake throughout > these > 11 crushingly pedestrian tracks by necking Vim'n'tonic and plucking out > public > hairs every 30 seconds. Not even Ian McCulloch could reduce us to that. > > Barry Nicolson > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > ------- > > funny guy (NOT)........... owes something to Air and Daft > Punk!!!!!!!!!???? I > think not..... > > please excuse the typing - did it quick didn't check it... > > oh dear......they gave Polymoronic Spree 8 out of 10 ;-) > > Shaz > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== - --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V3 #240 ********************************