From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V2 #842 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Thursday, October 30 2003 Volume 02 : Number 842 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:32:50 +0000 From: "Peter Burnand" Subject: Re: seven-seas RE: Tapes to pc as well, that's interesting >... Make sure that you use the "Line In" socket on your soundcard, and not >the "Mic" socket as one is stereo and the other mono.. And make sure that you aren't connecting an amplified signal to the soundcard, or as Stevie said, Bad Things Can Happen. In other words, if your outputs go directly to speakers, DON'T plug them into the soundcard. You need a "Line Out" or, if lacking that, a headphone jack. The former is vastly preferrable. Having done this, you would also do well to make sure the heads of the cassette player are clean; I've used isopropyl alcohol with no ill effect. I also find that using the "metal" setting of the tape player, even if the tape *is* metal, limits the dynamic range too much. It's amazing what happens when one reintroduces old friends Hiss, Pop, Wow, and Flutter to digital..... they stand out like sore thumbs! Since your input is analog, but you'll be writing to a digital file, there ought to be a popup window asking you to identify your input source and output source. You want to sample at 44.1 Kbps if you want a CD quality .wav. You can then use a .wav -> .mp3 converter. I usually keep the original .wav around if at all possible, and/or burn it to a CD, cos if the .mp3 gets lost I don't want to have to hook everything up to the PC again! and if I *do* want to make a CD, saving as an .mp3 and then converting *that* to a .wav *will* lose more sound quality than if you'd just saved it as a .wav to begin with. Amy - ---- Sod it, I think I'll just use my tape player... (No, seriously, thanks a lot for the info Amy, Raj and Stu,very helpful.) _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:29:41 -0000 From: "Noose Boy" Subject: RE: seven-seas "play it safe" setlist Rollercoaster would be top of my wish list closely followed by The Game. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Barry Whiting Sent: 29 October 2003 18:18 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas "play it safe" setlist - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Red" > I also said I'd die a little happier if they'd ever play No Dark Things > which I know they at least rehearsed.....but I'll still never EVER tire > of hearing Crocodiles, Heads Will Roll, Back of Love or the Cutter live!! > > And especially Over The Wall....I get chills EVERY time I hear > the first note of that one live!! :-) Certainly, you can't really argue with the setlist. There's a core of songs (see Ivan's post) that the Bunnymen are expected them to play. I'd be the first to gripe if I left a gig without a rendition of NLF, Killing Moon, Ocean Rain etc etc. Personally, I don't think (e.g.) Bedbugs falls into that group of songs but if that's the case, fair enough, crank it out (...and I appreciate there is a U.S./U.K. perspective to all this). But I do think they could mix it up a little. Not wholesale changes but maybe 3 or 4 songs not in the usual diet. Not obscure B-sides (half the venue disappears to the bar) and I'm not too bothered about HUH/Porcupine tracks, either, because I don't believe they would fit..... ....but why not include a choice moment or two off the well-received "Evergreen" ("Just A Touch Away", "I'll Fly Tonight" for example)...the lead track from "Flowers" (only lasted one tour, IIRC)..."The Game" (one of their best selling singles)..."The Fish Hook Girl" (Ok, it's a B-side but it was always popular live)...etc You know, just something to catch you a little unawares. Anyway, all this is really nit-picking as it's still The Bunnymen live - a great night guaranteed. - -- Barry Whiting barry@urquell.freeserve.co.uk ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:31:53 -0000 From: "Noose Boy" Subject: RE: seven-seas RE: Tapes to pc as well, that's interesting. Using software such as CoolEdit to do the recording and away you go! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of stevie g Sent: 29 October 2003 12:29 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas RE: Tapes to pc as well, that's interesting. you just connect from an output on your tape player to an audio in on your soundcard - taking care to use correct output/input to avoid didtortion and [can happen] damage to sound card. steve g. - --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:50:16 -0000 From: "Noose Boy" Subject: RE: seven-seas Re:"play it safe" setlist I don't think any act would lose out by taking a leaf out of Mr McNabb's book, who does very long sets, always great songs and these days I'd be surprised if one show was anything like the next. If the songs are good and done well then the audience, be it hardcore fans or first timers, would appreciate the stuff, n'est pas? For me the Bunnymen could be accused, at times, of just going through the motions. This is meant to be a celebration of 25 years in the business, I hope they don't let us down and I'm sure they won't. Certainly the last time I saw them, at Glasto, they were top. Anyone organising a meet for the London show? (O'Neals?) Pub on the corner or if you want a bite to eat before, the Vesbar just across the road? Raj - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of David & Bernice Whiting Sent: 29 October 2003 23:43 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas Re:"play it safe" setlist Valid points and I think that there are obviously some tunes they probably feel an obligation to do, but I know a couple of longtime fans who have quit going to the shows, because they keep running a very similar set. I have tried to convince these people that it's still worth the price of admission, but they want a different type of set at this point and I can't say that I blame them. I'll keep going to the shows, but I hope they give it some thought, because they are losing a few of the original hardcore devotees by staying so devoted to the poppier stuff. I'm happy to hear that they have had a good strong draw on this tour though...I just want to see them keep that core coming back. Cheers, David > From: Red > Subject: Re: seven-seas "play it safe" setlist > > At 08:30 AM 10/29/03 -0800, you wrote: > >I do agree with Chris' comment yesterday that perhaps we all have just too > >many shows - the majority of ticketbuyers, who are the thousands of people > >NOT active in the web community - EXPECT to hear a lot of the songs in the > >setlist that we're getting tired of... > > and I'll repeat what I said over on VT... > I just told a long time friend of mine > (who has been a mild bunnyfan for as long > as I've been a hardcore fan)......told her the NJ setlist > and how the fans are all bitching coz they want different stuff... > > and she said: > > having never seen the band live, i wouldn't mind that setlist. :) but you > hardcore fans, on the other hand...i can see where you'd be like, "play > that unreleased b-side from 1986" or something. > > There.....that must be the band's exact logic. > > I also said I'd die a little happier if they'd ever play No Dark Things > which I know they at least rehearsed.....but I'll still never EVER tire > of hearing Crocodiles, Heads Will Roll, Back of Love or the Cutter live!! > > And especially Over The Wall....I get chills EVERY time I hear > the first note of that one live!! :-) > > Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V2 #842 ********************************