From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V2 #534 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Friday, July 11 2003 Volume 02 : Number 534 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:26:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Amy Moseley Rupp Subject: Re: seven-seas New Zealand Herald > >I have a video of Geddy Lee doing "O Canada" before > >an All-Star baseball game that I can torture anyone > >with ;-) ;-) a capella > > > PLEASE......BURN IT!!!!!!!!!!! > That has to almost be worse than Mariah fucking Carey...... It's pretty darned awful, and you *know* that must be hard for me to say! But alas alack, it's in wide distribution now -- I video'd it back in the day, and sent a few copies here and there. Now it's easily found on any of the P2P networks. So if as you and many others here believe, Mr Lee can't sing, and that a lot of people who can't sing are still cool and have great bands.... hmmmm.... - --Amy, wondering why Mariah and Carey seem to be having all the fun ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:34:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Amy Moseley Rupp Subject: Re: seven-seas New Zealand Herald > Weep for me. Chris, I am, I tell ya. Or is it just my allergies? One episode of American Junior cured me of any desire to watch television for weeks. In the "truth is stranger than fiction" department, I *just* this second realised that the lawyer representing my husband is named -- for real -- J. Tull. Oh. My. God. Okay, so the J doesn't stand for Jethro, but still. ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:53:45 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stu=20Bird?= Subject: Re: seven-seas OT drift into global politics Interesting points... I think most national anthems are by their very nature edging towards the right wing, and every now and then, nationalism sweeps through countries ( at different levels, and in different ways ), and in turn we get some tremendous music as a backlash. Chris mentioned Dylan, then there's others like Guthrie, Marley, a lot of the early punk stuff. I think you're right in suggesting popular music tunes for national anthems.. That would be real fun, but maybe it would get too close to the eurovision song contest.. No WMD ? Okay.. we'll have No Surprises by Radiohead !! Later, Stu Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > I don't know anyone here who knows all the words to the national anthem, although funnily enough, I do know all of La Marseillaise as I was taught it when I did French at school, and I still remember it now. Dunno the words, but do know the chune courtesy of "All You Need Is Love." If I ever knew, I've forgotten why the Beatles et al chose to use that as the intro, but it's cool. > I think more people know and would prefer Jerusalem for a natoinal song here, but I think that's just the right-wing nature of the world today unfortunately. I think "Jerusalem" is beautiful, but because I've been too ingrained with the separation of church and state, I would not think it appropriate. However, there, where the church and state share the same leader, there is not a "procedural" problem with it. But hey -- why not "World In Motion?" ;-) LOL pick some rousing footie song, that'd be more like it! > Not sure about SSB, but I take it that the "land of the free" and other such bits doesn't apply to Guantanamo Bay... (adopts shocked face) Of course not! That's in Cuba, land of the dictator with whom we had a heated Cold War in the 60s and yet we have a base there and yet that's weird because we're not allowed to holiday there or buy any Cuban cigars! Prisoners? due process? Who? There are many here of all ideologies who believe that we have strayed too far from the basic tenets we seem to all agree on, but nobody can figure out, much less agree on, how to get *back* to those tenets. On the Fourth I literally struggled with whether to put my hand over my heart when the symphony played the anthem. Most people didn't out of sheer ignorance or laziness or because their right hand was full of a turkey leg they were chewing on, but I was struggling. I don't approve of our current policies and really haven't ever. WWII is the last time we had a good and sane leader and a just cause. I finally did salute because I thought of my relatives who were honest and brave people and some of whom fought and died in those various wars, from the Revolutionary War to Vietnam. The story of how my uncle was spared Vietnam and how our cousin died to protect a man with a family are just the most recent events. - --Amy ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== - --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:23:06 +0400 From: "Peter John Burnand" Subject: Re: seven-seas New Zealand Herald Hey, you live near Berklee! Indeed, I do. The stench is merciless. - --- A top class retort. I didn't get where I am today from tacky plagiarism (or even from robbing other people's words) but I will now seek every dubious avenue of conversational opening to verily leather that phrase to within an inch of its life. It reminds me of starting a new job in Wolverhampton, England. My boss asked what I thought of Redditch (where I lived at the time) and my unwise reply was that if ever the world needed an enema that's where they should stick the nozzle. I later found out that said new boss was Redditch born and bred. By sheer coincidence that was one of my chequered list of past employers that later fired me, through no fault of my own of course. ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V2 #534 ********************************