From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V2 #527 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Thursday, July 10 2003 Volume 02 : Number 527 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:08:23 -0600 From: "K. F. Smith" Subject: Re: seven-seas New Zealand Herald > if these journalists (cough) can be so wrong about *facts* neverless > having a crap opinion ;-) then I can't trust their judgment about > *any band* or album! And heck why stop there -- > Yeah, but if you read enough of them you can generally figure out what bees are in which bonnets, and come upon some reasonable version of what to think. - - K :) ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:58:18 -0600 From: "K. F. Smith" Subject: Re: seven-seas Stylus Magazine > his misrepresented facts skew the people reading > this review. That's bad journalism, IMO. > He has a very unpleasant attitude -- put me off in the first paragraph. I doubt he will influence many who don't already share his mindset. - - K :) ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:57:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Amy Moseley Rupp Subject: Re: seven-seas New Zealand Herald > I think yr taking all these reviews a little too literally. Either that > or Rush's obviously proficient musicality has blinded you from the fact > that most "musical" bands (the Police, etc.) are unforgiveable crap (IMO, > etc.) Again, it ain't about the notes. If it was, all the best rock > bands would come out of the Berklee school of music. And they invariably > produce the worst sh!t ever. Hey, you live near Berklee! I dare ya to stand on the corner and hold a sign that says "Berklee produces graduates who produce the worst shit ever." ;-) What would they do, clobber you over the head with their cello cases? LOL I happen to have driven past Berklee and the people? who were coming and going looked more like they were older versions of the kids on the TV show Fame than future rock-n-rollers, but hey. You're right -- I am applying a lot of musical theory and not general *vibe* to the songs, and something has to be a virtual carbon copy for me to cry ripoff! Look and feel isn't protected, remember? :-) To be general though -- if "Playgrounds" has a "Bono-rific" close, so does "A Promise" -- repetitive phrases to fade. You'll notice that I am *not* intending to become a music critic / journalist any time soon -- there's too much name dropping and tenuous comparison involved. Oh yeah -- whoever the git was that said that Mac didn't use any of his strengths on the album obviously missed the chorus to "Kansas" -- in which Mac's trademark sweet voice is lovely, and the bridge in the same, which is the "mysterious" mucho-reverb Mac voice. - --Amy ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:29:36 -0500 From: "Ted Turner" Subject: Re: seven-seas(Brotherhood): New Zealand Make out "a lot like some of the guitar driven New Order stuff...think Ceremony or any number of tracks on Low-Life or Brotherhood or Power Corruption and Lies." Brotherhood is a great Summer make out record!!...try it this weekend..even if yer alone - -Ted <---------------------------------------------------> Ted Turner: UWSA/CKUW 95.9 FM Advertising & Sponsorship Manager Ph: 204 786 9779 *** Fx: 204 783 7080 Room 0R32 - University of Winnipeg 515 Portage Ave Winnipeg MB Canada R3B 2E9 tturner2@uwinnipeg.ca www.theuwsa.ca www.ckuw.ca <---------------------------------------------------> Rates/specs: CKUW - www.ckuw.ca/ratecard.jpg Stylus - www.ckuw.ca/stylusrates.pdf Uniter - http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~uwsaweb/Uniterrates_page_1.htm Handbook- www.ckuw.ca/UWSA_handbook.jpg - www.ckuw.ca/Handbook_Specs. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Adams" To: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: seven-seas New Zealand Herald > I gotta say, Amy, that I disagree with ya entirely. > The bass-line on Baby Hold On is essentially that of Walk On the Wild > Side. Not the same *notes*--exactly, but exact same feel and vibe--and > totally intentional, in the way that Buried Alive is intentionally a Sweet > Jane rip-o....errr....HOMAGE. > > The "big string sweep" on Love In Veins is the keys on the chorus--yeah > not real strings, but programmed to sound like 'em. > > And Stake Your Clain is a quite a lot like some of the guitar driven New > Order stuff...think Ceremony or any number of tracks on Low-Life or > Brotherhood or Power Corruption and Lies. > > I think yr taking all these reviews a little too literally. Either that > or Rush's obviously proficient musicality has blinded you from the fact > that most "musical" bands (the Police, etc.) are unforgiveable crap (IMO, > etc.) Again, it ain't about the notes. If it was, all the best rock > bands would come out of the Berklee school of music. And they invariably > produce the worst sh!t ever. > > And you can trust *my* writing. Cos I'm right. (Insert approriately > self-deflating comment here.) > > --Chris A. > > > > > > Amy Moseley Rupp > Sent by: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org > 10-Jul-2003 12:01 PM > Please respond to seven-seas > > > To: seven-seas@smoe.org > cc: > Subject: Re: seven-seas New Zealand Herald > > > > That's clearest on the opening track Love In Veins with its vibrant > guitars > > and big string sweep, while the closing Stake Your Claim also manages to > come > > on a little New Order-ish, and he lifts a bit of Walk on the Wild Side > for > > Baby Hold On. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no "big string sweep" on *any* > of the songs! Stake Your Claim doesn't really have any keys and is > much more 90s than "New Order-ish." He sees what a lot of people > see in "Baby Hold On" (though I don't -- but though now that I'm > thinking of it there are a few strings in the *chorus* to that song). > > (sigh) > > Okay he spelled everything correctly and said a coupla relevant things, > but otherwise he flunks the critic test. > > Hey, I just had this obvious but frightening thought for the first > time, which y'all have probably had for years: > > if these journalists (cough) can be so wrong about *facts* neverless > having a crap opinion ;-) then I can't trust their judgment about > *any band* or album! And heck why stop there -- music journalists > don't corner the market on error -- I suppose you can't trust *any* > writing. (including mine? ;-) ) > > --Amy ("I was doing okay until that big house fell on my sister.") > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V2 #527 ********************************