From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V2 #352 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Sunday, June 1 2003 Volume 02 : Number 352 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:44:57 +0100 From: "Noose Boy" Subject: RE: seven-seas Mac's Uncut Bowie track I know I read yours after I sent mine - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Matt H Sent: 01 June 2003 12:56 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas Mac's Uncut Bowie track >Ask Kirk Brandon Hey Raj.....quit stealing my jokes! Echo and the Bunnymen | the official website: http://www.bunnymen.com ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:46:54 +0100 From: "Noose Boy" Subject: RE: seven-seas The Smiths Again Smiths were very good live when I saw them and I don't like 'em much - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Henry Biedenkapp Sent: 01 June 2003 14:40 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas The Smiths Again >From: "Matt H" >It's getting worse, too! The Smiths and Morrissey solo are all I've >listened to for days now! I suppose I'll get it out of my system >soon enough, though I've found some EXCELLENT Smiths live recordings >on Soulseek, so they'll keep me going for a while! Hey, Matt, I don't see how this is possible. I've seen the Smiths live once and Morrissey twice. The Smiths were the worst live sounding bands in 25 years of concert going, but I must admit the audience was having one of the best times. Everybody was litterally dancing (not just standing) on their chairs or dancing in the aisles. A great time was had at the old Pier 44. It was a great illustration for me about the debate of really playing live or using taped music and vocals. I applaud Morrissey for playing 100% live and probably prefer it real that if they playing 100% taped. Morrissey solo sounded a little bit better live but not much. I really love the band and giving Morrissey a lot of credit where he deserves it I own several live Smiths and Morrissey reccordings at best one or two are very good but most are lousy "Rank" should be deleted and burned by the way. The "Singles Collection" and "Greatest Hits" collection probably should also be burned because for some reason with all these great songs, it deosn't seem to "flow" as a Smiths album should. You can tell that this was pure record company cash-in wwith no involvement from anyone in the band. There would nave been some thought in sequencing. The rest of the Smiths albums are all brilliant, with the exception of the slightly dissappointing "Strangeways" a lot of great songs, but for some reason isn't as powerful as the previous material on the whole. Maybe, I'm the masochist for loving the band as much as I do with as much deep disappointment as the live material presents. I just tell it like the way I feel and see it. So it's just my opinion. I noticed no one made any comments about my Morrissey is "not nice" remarks after explaining why. Maybe part of my bitterness is the fact that with all the "liberal" philosophy that is espoused in Morrissey lyrics, that to find out how "money hungry" and image conscious he is. Anybody have a really excellent sounding factory-pressed Smiths boot? Matt, where are these excellent recordings from? Maybe, I should be signing up on a Smiths or Morrissey list? Henry _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 09:54:25 -0400 From: "tony schinella" Subject: Re: seven-seas The Smiths Again I would agree and disagree slightly. I saw The Smiths on their first tour, at the Beacon Theatre in NYC and they were so friggin' awesome. It could have been the freshness; the fact that they played in a small place, I don't know. But they were really good. Two years later, I saw them at Great Woods, this big stadium in the Boston area, and they were disappointing, mostly because they played SO many slow songs and the night seemed to drag on and on. I recall that the "The queen is dead" was absolutely brilliant that night and they did have a second guitarist who really filled out the sound. But the vibe was very depressing. However, when we saw Morrissey on his last tour a couple of years ago, I was really surprised. We saw him in this 1200 person club called Avalon and he and the band were really pretty good. They kept the show moving, mixing up all his solo stuff and a couple of Smiths song, like "Half a person." - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Biedenkapp" To: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: seven-seas The Smiths Again > >From: "Matt H" > >It's getting worse, too! The Smiths and Morrissey solo are all I've > >listened to for days now! I suppose I'll get it out of my system > >soon enough, though I've found some EXCELLENT Smiths live recordings > >on Soulseek, so they'll keep me going for a while! > > Hey, Matt, I don't see how this is possible. I've seen the Smiths live once > and Morrissey twice. > The Smiths were the worst live sounding bands in 25 years of concert going, > but I must admit the audience was having one of the best times. Everybody > was litterally dancing (not just standing) on their > chairs or dancing in the aisles. A great time was had at the old Pier 44. It > was a great illustration for me about the debate of really playing live or > using taped music and vocals. I applaud Morrissey for playing 100% live and > probably prefer it real that if they playing 100% taped. > > Morrissey solo sounded a little bit better live but not much. I really love > the band and giving Morrissey a lot of credit where he deserves it > > I own several live Smiths and Morrissey reccordings at best one or two are > very good but most are lousy > > "Rank" should be deleted and burned by the way. The "Singles Collection" and > "Greatest Hits" collection > probably should also be burned because for some reason with all these great > songs, it deosn't seem to "flow" as a Smiths album should. You can tell that > this was pure record company cash-in wwith no involvement from anyone in the > band. There would nave been some thought in sequencing. > > The rest of the Smiths albums are all brilliant, with the exception of the > slightly dissappointing "Strangeways" a lot of great songs, but for some > reason isn't as powerful as the previous material on the whole. > > Maybe, I'm the masochist for loving the band as much as I do with as much > deep disappointment as the live material presents. I just tell it like the > way I feel and see it. So it's just my opinion. I noticed no one made any > comments about my Morrissey is "not nice" remarks after explaining why. > Maybe part of my bitterness is the fact that with all the "liberal" > philosophy that is espoused in Morrissey lyrics, that to find out how > "money hungry" and image conscious he is. > > Anybody have a really excellent sounding factory-pressed Smiths boot? Matt, > where are these excellent recordings from? > > Maybe, I should be signing up on a Smiths or Morrissey list? > > Henry > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V2 #352 ********************************