From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V2 #330 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Wednesday, May 28 2003 Volume 02 : Number 330 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:38:52 -0400 From: Red Subject: Re: seven-seas Re: >>In fact he still wears the same kind of clothes and the same kind of... At 08:30 PM 5/28/03 +0100, you wrote: >it's ok as long as he doesn't undo too many buttons IMO >:-) ditto! ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:33:13 -0400 From: Rob Maher Subject: Re: seven-seas Mac's Uncut Bowie track > ..Starman is the song that made > Mac wanna be a rock star....and I just wondered what he > thought of Boy George doing it. I think he's trying to be > too much like Bowie on the track..... That is kinda funny actually. Suddenly, I have visions of Mac singing, "I'll tumble for ya". Rob ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:57:10 +0200 From: Anders =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6mstedt?= Subject: Re: seven-seas-moderated Mac's Uncut Bowie track Guy Chadwick`s album, "Lazy, Soft & Slow" is highly recommended ! Great stuff ! /Anders Red skrev: > I rather like Guy Chadwick's track....though. > Funny thing is...I'd heard his version while I was in > England and really liked it at the time. I've never heard > the original though, is it similar....or different? > I hate when someone covers a song and tries to make > a carbon copy. ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:10:03 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stu=20Bird?= Subject: Re: seven-seas mac article (for chris) Gawd.. I've become predictable.. That means I've been here too long !!!! What class am I ?? Economy of course !! Stu Shaz wrote: Stu - I knew you'd step in on this one - I wanted too but didn't know how to word it. I still don't........wouldn't even like to try.... - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:23:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Amy Moseley Rupp Subject: Re: seven-seas mac article (for chris) > Gawd.. I've become predictable.. That means I've been here too long !!!! > > What class am I ?? Economy of course !! LOL..... I never get "class" because it's so complicated. I was raised dirt poor and everyone back from me was too. But since we were eddycated, we wouldn't be considered lower-class. Now I am as high as one can get in income without being independently wealthy. So the expectations are that the kids are deprived if you don't take them skiing over spring holiday and to the Galapagos and other educational places on other occasions. There is a word when kids are treated like this, which is "affluenza." But because I am going to be in single-parent relative poverty compared with my husband, my kids are suffering from loss of complete affluenza and the fact that Daddy can blow money but Mommy can't. This has to do with divorce law in Texas and just a complete difference in the way things are done between the US and the UK. So NOW what class am I? I either have no class or I'm in a class of my own. ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 17:56:46 -0700 From: Charles Pham Subject: seven-seas Roxy settimes according to Roxy boxoffice: Metric ~ 9pm Ian McCulloch ~ 10pm. Charles Pham Web Producer charlesp@eonline.com AIM: PicturesOnMyWall WORK: 323.692.4676 CELL: 323.273.1550 E! Online ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:21:05 -0700 From: "jonnykat" Subject: Re: seven-seas mac article (for chris) "Did he mean Pete was more a conformist to the "posh" standards? In the 80s in the US, this would mean wearing Izod shirts ;-) " strangely enough at some santa barbra , CA. bar in the states circa 88.. pete was running around with those polo izod shirts and les was wearing loafers ..Will however, was down and dirty drinking up and easy to chat up at the bar... i remember asking him what the fuck... with the pete "posh" getup? the same night earlier ian fell of stage and fucked his leg up...and threw his mike at pattison... strange night indeed...like a post punk band being forced to be something there not and making hell out of it on stage... struggling to be pop like the trainwreck that was starting to happen.. even stranger one of the nights before in LA on easter as pete came out of the gig.... looking like morrison in his prime..grizzled but intense and enigmatic.. anyway just a memory.. pete was uncategorizable and one of the best drummers i've ever seen... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Moseley Rupp" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: Re: seven-seas mac article (for chris) > > Interesting article. Every time I want him to elaborate on something, he > > goes off on some other tangent though. What I want to know is, what is the > > story with the breakfast food backstage? How odd. > > What I find interesting is that _Never Stop_ seems to implicate that > Mac had a rather *middle* class upbringing -- and I need to explain > that one a little bit -- what we in the US would call middle class. > Some one needs to correct me if I'm wrong, but normally in the UK > you wouldn't get that kind of upbringing and general level of education > *unless* you were not strictly of working-class parents. So I > find it a bit odd that a) he says his family enjoyed the standard > of living they did despite his dad's compulsive gambling and because > his dad was good at avoiding the bill collectors and that b) Pete > was a bit "posh." In terms of snobbery about food/drink/clothes/ > hair, Mac could be a bit of a snob as well. Did he mean Pete > was more a conformist to the "posh" standards? In the 80s in > the US, this would mean wearing Izod shirts ;-) and Sperry > topsiders and button-down pastel Oxfords. > > I think that Mac just thought frying up egg buttys after a show > wasn't *cool*. I don't know that eating *any* kind of a solid > meal would have struck him as *cool*. Remember, we're talking > Mac at what, 28 at most? Coked out and at the top of his game > and fame and fortune? He's never particularly struck me as > an Everyman save for footie. In fact, I think that that's the > only thing that draws him *out* of listening to the voices in > his head -- and the fact that there are several of them is what > takes him off on all those tangents. He seems to live in a > world unto himself. He's a very, very intelligent individual and > yet lacks a particular focus or drive, which he explains as > being a bit of a dreamer. I think if he *did* have a yen to > go in ONE direction a la Bill Gates, he'd be a lot more boring > a person. > > I'm bound to catch a considerable amount of stick for psychoanalysing > Our Hero, who some prefer to be enigmatic, and I am also willing > to eat a lot of humble pie served by those who obviously know him > better than I. > > --Amy > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V2 #330 ********************************