From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V2 #317 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Monday, May 26 2003 Volume 02 : Number 317 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 12:45:06 -0400 From: Red Subject: Re: seven-seas Philly gig At 09:26 AM 5/26/03 -0700, you wrote: > >I almost came down but I would have been leaving at around 8:45 PM and it is about an hour from where we live. Mac didn't go on till almost 10 anyways! :-( Phooey....see...you guys need to listen to me! ;-) Next time for sure! Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 12:48:13 -0400 From: Red Subject: RE: seven-seas mac article At 05:23 PM 5/26/03 +0100, you wrote: > >Will's a vegetarian. >Red > >...... > >i never knew that ! > >loo Wow! I never knew you never knew! ;-) Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:44:16 +0100 From: "looloo" Subject: RE: seven-seas mac article hee i always thought he waas a nice guy !! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Red Sent: 26 May 2003 17:48 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: RE: seven-seas mac article At 05:23 PM 5/26/03 +0100, you wrote: > >Will's a vegetarian. >Red > >...... > >i never knew that ! > >loo Wow! I never knew you never knew! ;-) Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 12:58:26 -0400 From: Red Subject: OT sorta....RE: seven-seas mac article At 05:44 PM 5/26/03 +0100, you wrote: >hee > >i always thought he waas a nice guy !! :-) Wot? Nice guys aren't veggies? hahhahaa kidding. I guess you missed the thread where Will asked for good veggie restaurants on one of the last tours? :-( Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:57:18 +0100 From: "looloo" Subject: RE: OT sorta....RE: seven-seas mac article yeah i did -- well if they EVER play pompey again (Wedgewood rooms -- PLEASE) - -- i promise i'll cook for him :-)) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Red Sent: 26 May 2003 17:58 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: OT sorta....RE: seven-seas mac article At 05:44 PM 5/26/03 +0100, you wrote: >hee > >i always thought he waas a nice guy !! :-) Wot? Nice guys aren't veggies? hahhahaa kidding. I guess you missed the thread where Will asked for good veggie restaurants on one of the last tours? :-( Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:03:49 -0400 From: "Leslie Jen" Subject: RE: seven-seas mac article Thanks Stu. I still can't get over Mac making himself so vulnerable in an interview setting! With relatively few words he's revealed an awful lot. Leslie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Stu Bird Sent: May 26, 2003 9:59 AM To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas mac article Hi, Yep I posted that there was an article, but it wasn't linked at the time, so thanks for posting the link. The Observer does this every week with someone, and it's an upfront Q&A type of thing.. My guess is that Mac's mellowing out.. Being either aloof or acerbic for all those years kept up the mystery etc, but those days are long gone, plus he's got an album to flog ;-) Cheers, Stu Leslie Jen wrote: Hi... I'm sort of in and out of this list so I don't know if this article has been brought up or not, but what's the deal? It's written from Mac's point of view and is rather interesting, but I can't imagine he actually had anything to do with it. He's not usually this earnest or so directly confessional. Comments? http://www.observer.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,935937,00.html This Much I Know Ian McCulloch, singer, 43, London Andrew Harrison Sunday April 13, 2003 The Observer It's easier to sing something than say it. The most important quality is honesty. And I haven't got it, not truly. That's why you go for drugs and drink, because you're hiding something. At least the songs can be the alibi. My dad was a compulsive gambler. He spent the rent, forged the rentbook, we had the bailiffs round all the time. But for all that, he was the greatest. He was like Eric Morecambe meets Bill Shankly. I've turned into him, totally. I always think you can get away with anything by being a cheeky little bastard. I've got compulsive tendencies. I have to repeat what people say to me back to myself, in my head, and count the syllables. It used to have to fit iambic pentameters, but now it's OK if it's just an even number of syllables, so I must be getting better. There's no such word as 'couth'. My brother used it in an essay. The teacher told him not to be so clever. The older you get, the less you like the night. When I was a kid I loved dark nights because it meant I could play Leonard Cohen and David Bowie. I hate the dark now. I can understand why old people sod off to Spain. The sun's a sign of life. You need it more the older you get. It's hard to handle your own mouth sometimes. We were the first band to split up because of culinary differences. If you're in a band, there are some things you just don't do. Will Sergeant [guitar] and Les Pattinson [bass] would have an 'egg butty' just after they came offstage at the Albert Hall. Can you imagine? Towards the end of the band, we had frying pans backstage, camping stoves, the stink of bacon... it was disgusting. Turning 40 made me realise that I want to get to 80. Prior to that I thought I was invincible, that nothing happens to you if you're having a crack. You can't teach these posh people the true meaning of soul, and belonging. Our drummer Pete de Freitas wasn't from Liverpool, he was posh. He was dragged off to New Orleans by his mates and they spent all his money. Looking back, Pete seemed to be on a long suicide mission. He'd been on to ecstasy when it first started, before any of the Manchester dudes, and he was hammering it. He schizo'd out. More than anything I thought: 'You cheeky git, how can you do this to the Bunnymen?' I don't do breakdowns. Everybody has thought some time in their life: 'Could I ever kill myself, if it got that bad?' But I always think: 'Not if there's football on.' My dad died the same day I left the Bunnymen, 26 April 1988. I'd told him that this gig in Osaka was going to be the end of it for me. My dad was in hospital in Liverpool and I knew he was dying before I went onstage. I'd been crying my eyes out, but I thought, 'What a cool, cool dude, to say "I'll get out now. You've got to do the last one on your own."' Not that he guided me through life, but it was too coincidental. I felt great for a year after my dad died and the band ended. I felt propelled forward for a change, plus I was totally bongo'd for a couple of years with the drink and the drugs. I was always having a laugh, or I thought I was. In fact, I was completely lost, really. But to be honest, it was good to go to that place, and I'm not sure I've come back from it. It's normal for me to be confused, and all over the shop emotionally. The band decided to go on with another singer. I don't like to talk about it. Sometimes I do wonder how I let Will back in my life after a stab in the back like that - bringing in some no-mark to front the band. Talking to yourself is not a bad thing. Everybody has loads of voices rattling on in their head. The only difference is, I talk back to them. I don't know what quiet sounds like. Once a Bunnyman, always a Bunnyman. That's why we had to get back together. The thought of it sometimes reduces me to panic, but when I sing 'The Killing Moon' I know there isn't a band in the world who's got a song anywhere near that. The secret of a good marriage is being a good liar. I don't mean to hurt people, but it happens. Me and Lorraine have been together for 20 years so it works somehow. Love helps, too. Football is more important than music. Football is the only time I like being part of 40,000 people. And with music, the last thing I want to be is part of a crowd. I want to be me, on my own. Speak before you think. The sentence will usually be better than the thought. Ian McCulloch's third solo album, Slideling, is released on 28 April. ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== - --------------------------------- It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V2 #317 ********************************