From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V1 #95 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Monday, December 23 2002 Volume 01 : Number 095 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:16:19 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Ironside Subject: Re: Re: seven-seas Joe Strummer Dead I wish no one harm in the world, including metal dirtbags, just me ranting about another of life's bad curveballs. As for Tommy Stinson, I hope he lives a long and fulfilling life. The Mats are very high on my favourite groups, Let it be was the album that made me want to be a musician. London Calling as well. i know he meant different things to people, to some he is just a dead pop star, but to me and many others, he was a teacher, a fighter, also intelligent enough to admit his faults. I am just grateful that he died during a creative rebirth and not in obscurity, and that people who loved him and the Clash got to see him one last time. A.I. - --- Nate Vanden Brook wrote: > but all members of > > GnR and Motley Crue are alive, > > I could give fuck all about Motley Crue > > But do you really wish Robbie Stinson any harm? > Granted is in the newest > incarnation of G&R and Axle kept him from doing a > replacements reunion but > still he's Robbie Stinson... Kill Slash and Axle and > the rest but please > spare dear old Robbie..... > > n8 > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:34:13 -0500 From: "David Whiting" Subject: seven-seas Joe Strummer RIP Well, when I woke up and read the news, I went fucking numb. I know that a musician should not necessarily be considered a "quasi-center of the universe", but there is no denying the ways in which a favorite artist can emotionally impact and enrich our daily living experiences (kind of like our own personal soundtracks) and thus a sense of loss. I loved the Clash and Joe Strummer & Co. were my earliest punk heroes. Another tributary to my musical soul just disintegrated from the planet. Sure, I'll go on with my life, but it's still too fucking sad for words... ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:54:45 -0500 From: Red Subject: RE: Re: seven-seas Joe Strummer Dead At 03:56 PM 12/23/02 -0000, you wrote: >someone getting overly upset over a singer dying, for example my wife told >me her dad cried the day Elvis died, that just seems like odd behaviour to >me. I cried when Pete De Freitas died........ :-( Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 00:39:50 -0000 From: "K.P. Jacques" Subject: seven-seas Joe Strummer Just thought I'd add my (worthless) lot to the pile. I was 17 in 1977, actually I was also 16 for 5/12's of the year. Anyroads punk came along and saved (imho) rock 'n' roll and me and me mates. One of the greatest saviours was Joe himself, a bloke with a speech impediment fronting one of the all time greatest bands. Without these bands we would have drowned in the inane pap of the 'slap-clap' disco crap. With the advent of punk it wasn't just the music that was important it was the 'whole' awareness that was awakened in the youth and led to massif changes in creative, political and social culture. The Clash may have been a band with slightly muddled ideals but at least they had ideals - ( I bet Joe wouldn't have worn a 'Loyalist' dog tag). So why is Joe's death so poignant to me...I'll tell ya.....I'm now 42 the same age as Elvis was when he died in 1977. I carry the same 'heavy' build that Joe did and am ranked in all the Men's Health self assessments as the man most likely to have a heart attack, although I have widened the odds by giving up the Marlboros quite some time ago. So, here's the score from a guy who has had a lifetime of people correcting his pronunciations who is carrying excess poundage and is now older than the King was when Joe sang 'No more Elvis, Beatles or the Rolling Stones in ..........' I'm gonna celebrate Xmas, I'm gonna drink a fucking big toast to Joe. Then I'm gonna lose 2.5 stone, get fit - very fit, and then maybe I'm gonna be looking for ............................ Happy Xmas Joe Happy Xmas Brian ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:49:33 -0500 From: Red Subject: Re: seven-seas Joe Strummer At 12:39 AM 12/24/02 -0000, you wrote: >Just thought I'd add my (worthless) lot to the pile. Like I said KP....always nice to hear from you! :-) Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:44:14 -0600 (CST) From: amyr@jump.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Subject: Re: seven-seas Joe Strummer > >Just thought I'd add my (worthless) lot to the pile. > > Like I said KP....always nice to hear from you! :-) Yep, me too. Believe it or not! ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:09:49 -0700 From: zap@softhome.net Subject: Re: seven-seas Joe Strummer well, i've never been a big clash fan... i like them and always meant to buy an album or so and see if i couldn't "get it". i just wanted to let you guys know that i too am really sad to see this happen before i took the time. it's always upsetting when a band whom i respect and who have the respect of the people on this list, pass on. i was really hoping for the possiblility of the reunion that was rumoured would give me the chance to further dig into these guys, and for the clash to maybe take over the world again. thanks for the email KP... it's insightful. for what it's worth i'd like to wish everyone happy holidays (again) we've lost alot of good ones this year (strummer,harrison, ramone +) so lets toast to them, and celebrate life. K.P. Jacques writes: > Just thought I'd add my (worthless) lot to the pile. I was 17 in 1977, > actually I was also 16 for 5/12's of the year. Anyroads punk came along and > saved (imho) rock 'n' roll and me and me mates. One of the greatest saviours > was Joe himself, a bloke with a speech impediment fronting one of the all > time greatest bands. Without these bands we would have drowned in the inane > pap of the 'slap-clap' disco crap. With the advent of punk it wasn't just > the music that was important it was the 'whole' awareness that was awakened > in the youth and led to massif changes in creative, political and social > culture. The Clash may have been a band with slightly muddled ideals but at > least they had ideals - ( I bet Joe wouldn't have worn a 'Loyalist' dog > tag). So why is Joe's death so poignant to me...I'll tell ya.....I'm now 42 > the same age as Elvis was when he died in 1977. I carry the same 'heavy' > build that Joe did and am ranked in all the Men's Health self assessments as > the man most likely to have a heart attack, although I have widened the odds > by giving up the Marlboros quite some time ago. So, here's the score from a > guy who has had a lifetime of people correcting his pronunciations who is > carrying excess poundage and is now older than the King was when Joe sang > 'No more Elvis, Beatles or the Rolling Stones in ..........' > I'm gonna celebrate Xmas, I'm gonna drink a fucking big toast to Joe. Then > I'm gonna lose 2.5 stone, get fit - very fit, and then maybe I'm gonna be > looking for ............................ > > Happy Xmas Joe > Happy Xmas Brian > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V1 #95 *******************************