From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-digest) To: seven-seas-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-digest V1 #40 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-digest Thursday, November 21 2002 Volume 01 : Number 040 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:08:07 -0500 From: Red Subject: Re: seven-seas OT A cautionary tale At 04:53 PM 11/21/02 -0600, you wrote: >But see.... being born and raised to 11 in Britain would make one *British* >by American standards even if one's parents were American. Wrong! If one's parents are American, then one is American. >I give you they are an American band, the same way the Monkees were >despite having what was his name, Davy... Jones? ;-) Yes, Davy Jones...who lives about 25 miles from me. He's British....although he's lived here since when? And the Monkees are definietly an American band.... from an American telly show. Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:11:02 -0000 From: "Martyn White" Subject: RE: seven-seas OT A cautionary tale Amy wrote: But see.... being born and raised to 11 in Britain would make one *British* by American standards even if one's parents were American." I understand and basically agree with that(although embacing a country at that age is a little different than going to live somewhere and somehow deciding that makes you of that country/culture) but that is the exact opposite reasoning you just used in the comment: "One Can Always Become An American, But If One Wasn't Born British, One Cannot Become British eg John Lennon = English - American Linda McCartney = AMERICAN" Amy wrote: "I give you they are an American band, the same way the Monkees were despite having what was his name, Davy... Jones? ;-)" Of course the Monkees were/are an American band, just like Garbage. How could anyone argue otherwise? Cheers Martyn PS Universal Truths: Its impossible to look cool whilst picking up a frisbee. ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:04:21 -0500 From: "Stephen Vilnius" Subject: seven-seas Churchill I'm not certain, but I used to have a quote that I THOUGHT was spoken by Mr. Winston that went, "Love-the delusion that one woman differs from another" Anyone care to chime in on that one? ; ) Steve V _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:11:06 -0500 From: Red Subject: Re: seven-seas OT A cautionary tale So.....all those US Army brats that are born overseas...... they're not American??? Red ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:07:55 -0600 (CST) From: amyr@jump.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Subject: Re: seven-seas OT: QOTSA on TOTP > esp the hating children part...classic! > > > > W.C. Fields: drunk, witty, skirt-chaser, iconoclast, hater of crying > > infants--what's not to like? I think he's up there with Ali in the "great > > Americans" category. Oh yeah. Wellll.... can't do the skirt-chasing or infant-hating parts. Drunk? Witty? Iconoclast? Sure. I have figured out that there are basically two kinds of Americans: "ugly," loud, unabashed Americans; and those of us who run around apologising after them. Haven't figured out how to split the difference. Funny, though, I don't give a shit about bragging Texans; don't give a shit about how we're perceived by the rest of the US, anyway; but am embarrassed by Americans overseas. Probably because we consider ourselves a nationality unto ourselves. Many of us wouldn't mind seceding! (Oh yeah, we tried that once....) ;-) - --Amy, swaggering Texan, apologetic American, Anglophile, who has to admit that England's being smaller than her home state comforts her ;-) ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:10:21 -0600 (CST) From: amyr@jump.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Subject: Re: seven-seas OT A cautionary tale > Yes, Davy Jones...who lives about 25 miles from me. > He's British....although he's lived here since when? > And the Monkees are definietly an American band.... > from an American telly show. Do tell! He lives near you? They played up his English connection when the show was on.... made them seem a little more like a Brit-invasion band (heck, the whole thing was an American rip-off of the Beatles and a sort of Spinal Tap before its time).... - --Amy, who grew up listening to the Monkees; can remember reading the cover and liner notes; but can't remember exactly where in England DJ was born ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:18:35 -0000 From: "Martyn White" Subject: RE: seven-seas Churchill H. L. Mencken, I think. Cheers and goodnight Martyn PS Old ladies can eat more than you think. Steve wrote : "I'm not certain, but I used to have a quote that I THOUGHT was spoken by Mr. Winston that went, "Love-the delusion that one woman differs from another" ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:14:07 -0000 From: "K.P. Jacques" Subject: Re: seven-seas OT: QOTSA on TOTP Ok I'm awake again........ Fave Churchill quotes :- ' If I die before I wake at least in heaven I can skate' ' Lets go fucka nazi !! ' > Churchill was credited with some good drinking quotes, too.... ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:15:57 -0000 From: "K.P. Jacques" Subject: Re: seven-seas OT A cautionary tale Get it from his accent. > --Amy, who grew up listening to the Monkees; can remember reading > the cover and liner notes; but can't remember exactly where in > England DJ was born ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-digest V1 #40 *******************************