From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-moderated-digest) To: seven-seas-moderated-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #238 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-moderated-digest Sunday, September 21 2003 Volume 02 : Number 238 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:39:01 -0700 From: "Ivan Smith" Subject: seven-seas-moderated Re: seven-seas remasters... oh... and four of the five extras on Crocs are live tracks... - -I - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Smith" To: Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: seven-seas remasters... > may as well pass this along to you seven-seas-ers first.... > > got word on the remasters... > > good news - Mick Houghton, 'Classic' Bunnymen Publicist, is back on > board for > the project. > > according to Will, a lot of great photos, etc.. have been dug out. > > also... > > EXTRA TRACKS will be included on each disc.... > > :: Crocodiles will have five extra > > :: Heaven Up Here will have five, including four previously unreleased live > tracks > > :: Porcupine will have seven extra tracks, with three previously unreleased > 'early' studio versions of tracks from that album (I think from the > 'lost' Porcupine session) > > :: Ocean Rain will have eight, with two previously unreleased live > tracks, recorded at The Crystal Day > > :: The Grey Album will have seven, including an early version of one track, a > studio version of a cover song they'd played live, an acoustic version > of a > song from that album, and one never before released studio track from > the Grey > Album sessions. > > heh heh heh > > -I > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.509 / Virus Database: 306 - Release Date: 8/12/2003 > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== > > - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.509 / Virus Database: 306 - Release Date: 8/12/2003 ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:57:56 -0700 From: Charles Pham Subject: seven-seas-moderated RE: seven-seas remasters... I guess I'm in the minority here, as the news about extra tracks is fantastic (btw: thanks for disclosing the news to the list, Ivan)! Sure, the albums are great in their own right and I'll continue to view them as such without the extra tracks. But to be honest, I wasn't very excited about purchasing any of the remasters with just the added photos and lyrics. Always viewed Remasters, in general, as a scam. Who needs 50 different remastered versions of Velvet Undergraound & Nico's banana album, anyway? But extra/live/demo/unreleased music, in addition to all those other non-music extras?! Then hell yeah, I'll definitely purchase all the remastered Bunnymen records...and without hesitation. Never thought I'd hear anyone complain and not purchase anything because of EXTRA music & too many add on's. But like I said, I must be in the minority. The word about extra tracks and an upcoming tour has gotten me all excited. Guess we'll find out tomorrow AM if the KROQ show is happening or not (they're making the official lineup announcement on the monday morning show). But word is, The Cure and Duran Duran are in, as well as the Furs. - -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Smith To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sent: 8/17/2003 8:09 AM Subject: Re: seven-seas remasters... I wasn't calling Mick Houghton 'classic'. I was referring to him as the publicist during the 'classic' bunnymen era. I agree with you on the bit about extra tracks. However, as labels sometimes do, Warners said there *had* to be extra tracks, in order to widen the appeal, and perhaps encourage fence-sitters such as yourself to shake the quarters outta their piggy banks to purchase the remasters (though I'm fairly certain every member of this list will have the extra tracks in their file libraries within 24 hours of release, whether or not they choose to purchase the albums). At that point, the band & mgt took a look at what was on the archived tape reels. As Warner are still talking about a release of the Sweden gig, none of those tracks (many which were remastered for the boxset) were included. They sorted through what was left - looked at what hasn't been remastered for CD yet, and chose from there. Like Mac & Will have said in the press - - The Bunnymen weren't the type of band that recorded 12 extra tracks per recording session. We've all heard pretty much what's out there. What that leaves us with is a collection of alternate takes, early versions and live tracks - perhaps some of us have heard some of them... But on all the seventeenth-generation cassettes I have of all this material, I've never seen the Grey Album-era studio track I'd mentioned on the previous e-mail. Dunno who found it, or where... but THAT's the one that I'm really excited to hear. No word on release date - though my money's on October, and no word on Les' involvement, though I will say that I haven't heard of Les having had any communication with Bunnycamp - Will included - since the Q Awards. - -I - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Red" To: Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:27 AM Subject: Re: seven-seas remasters... > At 09:35 PM 8/16/03 -0700, you wrote: > > >good news - Mick Houghton, 'Classic' Bunnymen Publicist, is back on board for > >the project. > > > >according to Will, a lot of great photos, etc.. have been dug out. > > Just curious..........since 'classic' Mick Houghton is back on board.... > what about the other 'classic' man??? ;-) Has Les had any kind of > involvement in picking these extra tracks and stuff, he may not be in > the band these days, but he still wrote and performed them etc, and > those are his albums too!! > > I thought they weren't gonna add all those xtra tracks?????? Dunno if > I'm gonna buy them or not....I hate extra tracks at the end of a > classic album when it's already perfect as it is! :-( > > Red (always a Les fan!!) > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== > - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.509 / Virus Database: 306 - Release Date: 8/12/2003 ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #238 ******************************************