From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-moderated-digest) To: seven-seas-moderated-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #198 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-moderated-digest Thursday, June 12 2003 Volume 02 : Number 198 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:11:03 -0400 From: "Chris Adams" Subject: seven-seas-moderated Re: seven-seas The Art of Mac aka Mac Art(hur) multipart/alternative Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Or, conversely, it can be a buncha bullsh!t: I mean, if I write (and I'll come up with this off the top of my head, right now): "The bees are burning The trees are turning Autumn's tide is trynna hide From the summer's bitter learning" One can choose to read that with as much intent, levity, or whatever as one wants, but, "creative unconscious" or otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, it's just some crap I spewed out without a moment's forethought. To me, it's meaningless...evocative, maybe, but...anyone who spends any time whatsoever interpreting that...well, that's their hangup. - --Chris A. "Martha Smith" Sent by: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org 11-Jun-2003 01:43 PM Please respond to seven-seas To: cc: Subject: Re: seven-seas The Art of Mac aka Mac Art(hur) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Adams" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: seven-seas The Art of Mac aka Mac Art(hur) > I think Mac's a pretty intuitive writer. I know that he tends to > write his lyrics pretty quickly. > Let's > face it, anyone who thinks young Mr. Mac actually had specific, > heavy-handed artistic/symbolic intentions behind "c-c-c-cucumber" has > clearly eaten a few too many moonbars. > I have never said he did. The fact of it is(and I am probably going against the tide again), I have never considered "c-c-c-cucumber" as one of his better efforts. :) I don't think he deals in "specific, heavy-handed artistic/symbolic intentions" -- though judging by the way he uses them, certain images and words do seem to have particular meanings for him. This gets into the very broad area of the role of the intuitive/subconscious in creative thought. The 18th Century saw creating works of art as primarily an intellectual, rational process. 19th Century romanticism emphasized the irrational/ subconscious as the source of creativity. The greatest critic of the age, John Ruskin, thought both processes play a role. He saw the artist as an individual of heightened perceptions who is able to convey these perceptions to others. This can be quite intuitive...generally is. - - K :) ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #198 ******************************************