From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-moderated-digest) To: seven-seas-moderated-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #170 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-moderated-digest Friday, June 6 2003 Volume 02 : Number 170 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:21:05 -0700 From: "jonnykat" Subject: seven-seas-moderated Re: seven-seas mac article (for chris) "Did he mean Pete was more a conformist to the "posh" standards? In the 80s in the US, this would mean wearing Izod shirts ;-) " strangely enough at some santa barbra , CA. bar in the states circa 88.. pete was running around with those polo izod shirts and les was wearing loafers ..Will however, was down and dirty drinking up and easy to chat up at the bar... i remember asking him what the fuck... with the pete "posh" getup? the same night earlier ian fell of stage and fucked his leg up...and threw his mike at pattison... strange night indeed...like a post punk band being forced to be something there not and making hell out of it on stage... struggling to be pop like the trainwreck that was starting to happen.. even stranger one of the nights before in LA on easter as pete came out of the gig.... looking like morrison in his prime..grizzled but intense and enigmatic.. anyway just a memory.. pete was uncategorizable and one of the best drummers i've ever seen... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Moseley Rupp" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: Re: seven-seas mac article (for chris) > > Interesting article. Every time I want him to elaborate on something, he > > goes off on some other tangent though. What I want to know is, what > > is the > > story with the breakfast food backstage? How odd. > > What I find interesting is that _Never Stop_ seems to implicate that > Mac had a rather *middle* class upbringing -- and I need to explain > that one a little bit -- what we in the US would call middle class. > Some one needs to correct me if I'm wrong, but normally in the UK you > wouldn't get that kind of upbringing and general level of education > *unless* you were not strictly of working-class parents. So I find it > a bit odd that a) he says his family enjoyed the standard of living > they did despite his dad's compulsive gambling and because his dad was > good at avoiding the bill collectors and that b) Pete was a bit > "posh." In terms of snobbery about food/drink/clothes/ hair, Mac > could be a bit of a snob as well. Did he mean Pete was more a > conformist to the "posh" standards? In the 80s in the US, this would > mean wearing Izod shirts ;-) and Sperry topsiders and button-down > pastel Oxfords. > > I think that Mac just thought frying up egg buttys after a show wasn't > *cool*. I don't know that eating *any* kind of a solid meal would > have struck him as *cool*. Remember, we're talking Mac at what, 28 at > most? Coked out and at the top of his game and fame and fortune? > He's never particularly struck me as an Everyman save for footie. In > fact, I think that that's the only thing that draws him *out* of > listening to the voices in his head -- and the fact that there are > several of them is what takes him off on all those tangents. He seems > to live in a world unto himself. He's a very, very intelligent > individual and yet lacks a particular focus or drive, which he > explains as being a bit of a dreamer. I think if he *did* have a yen > to go in ONE direction a la Bill Gates, he'd be a lot more boring > a person. > > I'm bound to catch a considerable amount of stick for psychoanalysing > Our Hero, who some prefer to be enigmatic, and I am also willing to > eat a lot of humble pie served by those who obviously know him better > than I. > > --Amy > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 01:09:47 -0700 From: Charles Pham Subject: seven-seas-moderated RE: seven-seas la show oh, and Metric were excellent. loved it when the singer cussed out the sound guy during their last song, making for an intense exit song. 'night. - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Pham To: 'seven-seas@smoe.org' Sent: 5/29/2003 12:59 AM Subject: seven-seas la show real quick (as it's late): the show was decent. disappointing at times, amazing other times. same setlist as most other shows. notes: first song 'playgrounds and city parks' was horrible, 'love in veins' was mega, 'nothing last forever' morphs into 'walk on the wild side', 'seven seas' added, 'history chimes' ended midway (again, just like chicago), 'lips like sugar' added "only because it's la" says mac & was great until the croon session, 'sweet jane' stops abruptly midway and jumps into "i'm waiting for my man". no 'stake your claim'. 'candleland' was amazing, 'lover lover lover' was just too good. best songs were the ones done properly without bantering, without the croon sessions (and i typically like the crooning). interesting to note, mac announced they're back on a plane to liverpool tomorrow...which nixes the rumor of him attending the coldplay hollywood bowl show on saturday. sucks. pete the bassist sporting a velvet underground t-shirt, which i thought was an electrafixion shirt (similiar boot design). other interesting note, if you're at a show and drinking, keep your mouth shut while the performer performs and/or speaks. i'm fucking through with l.a. crowds. and i'm tired of 10-minute songs. one or two peppered in a setlist, cool. but dragging literally every other song isn't exciting anymore...it's annoying and boring. bantering with the crowd & engaging in light-hearted chatter between some songs, cool. egging on annoying hecklers and bantering during poignant moments of songs is irritating. i guess this wasn't quick after all... ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:59:41 -0700 From: Charles Pham Subject: seven-seas-moderated la show real quick (as it's late): the show was decent. disappointing at times, amazing other times. same setlist as most other shows. notes: first song 'playgrounds and city parks' was horrible, 'love in veins' was mega, 'nothing last forever' morphs into 'walk on the wild side', 'seven seas' added, 'history chimes' ended midway (again, just like chicago), 'lips like sugar' added "only because it's la" says mac & was great until the croon session, 'sweet jane' stops abruptly midway and jumps into "i'm waiting for my man". no 'stake your claim'. 'candleland' was amazing, 'lover lover lover' was just too good. best songs were the ones done properly without bantering, without the croon sessions (and i typically like the crooning). interesting to note, mac announced they're back on a plane to liverpool tomorrow...which nixes the rumor of him attending the coldplay hollywood bowl show on saturday. sucks. pete the bassist sporting a velvet underground t-shirt, which i thought was an electrafixion shirt (similiar boot design). other interesting note, if you're at a show and drinking, keep your mouth shut while the performer performs and/or speaks. i'm fucking through with l.a. crowds. and i'm tired of 10-minute songs. one or two peppered in a setlist, cool. but dragging literally every other song isn't exciting anymore...it's annoying and boring. bantering with the crowd & engaging in light-hearted chatter between some songs, cool. egging on annoying hecklers and bantering during poignant moments of songs is irritating. i guess this wasn't quick after all... ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #170 ******************************************