From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org (seven-seas-moderated-digest) To: seven-seas-moderated-digest@smoe.org Subject: seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #132 Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org Sender: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org Precedence: bulk seven-seas-moderated-digest Monday, May 5 2003 Volume 02 : Number 132 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 18:25:35 -0400 From: "tony schinella" Subject: seven-seas-moderated Bunnymen stuff on Ebay ... Hi all, For those of you who contacted me, I DID NOT take the Bunnymen live stuff from Ebay. Because bootlegs have copyright problems, they do not permit the sale of them on auction. Someone ratted me out to Ebay for this. I am a bit disappointed in this because I wasn't gouging anyone - I was only looking to make the money back I paid for them many years ago. Considering inflation, I was asking for LESS than what I paid for them. As well, the live covers LP doesn't steal money from the Bunnymen since none of the covers are their songs. They didn't lose anything in copywritten material so technically, that LP shouldn't have been pulled. You could make a case for performance rights issues and sure, Lou Reed, Iggy, the Stones, etc. were never paid for their songs being on the LP. But whoever ratted me out didn't have to do this. Thanks a lot, asshole. Having said all this, while I don't know if it was true or not, there were rumors that the covers live bootleg was actually financed by the band and all proceeds eventually went to the band. I doubt they would be upset by me trying to sell them to a fan who might want them. Especially when Will is selling "Soviet" pressings of stuff by the Doors and other bands on Ebay which are almost assuredly pirated copies of these releases, showing that essentially band members are doing the same as I was. Luckily, a buyer has agreed to pay me cost for the albums via private sale so at least one fan will get the records. If I were an asshole, I could press a whole slew of bootleg CDs and sell them to indie stores, along with a whole slew of other bootlegs I have acquired over the years. However, I'm not. My intention was never to make money off the band but make back what I paid for the LPs. Lastly, the 9 12 inch vinyl records are still listed on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2526547764 and the picture disc is still available if anyone wants it. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@attbi.com http://politizine.blogspot.com http://radiotony.blogspot.com http://home.attbi.com/~radiotony/wsb/ ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 13:12:05 +0100 From: "Barry Whiting" Subject: seven-seas-moderated Another Slideling review Review of 'Slideling' from "When Skies Are Grey : The Everton fanzine" : Review: Slideling By Ian Carter The self styled 'best singer in the world' Ian McCulloch is back, minus Will Sergeant, for his eagerly anticipated first solo outing in ten years. I say eagerly anticipated, well it was by me, because let's face it this album is hardly going to trouble the charts too much. Which on the face of it is a shame. The record itself is easily Mac's finest solo album, okay Ocean Rain or Heaven Up Here it ain't but it certainly knocks the patchy Candleland and, how do we put this tactfully, the disappointing Mysterio, into a cocked hat. Despite the absence of guitarist Sergeant and the presence of a couple of new best mates in Chris Martin and Johnny Buckland the album is not too far removed from recent Bunnymen releases, think Flowers to give you an idea of the general sound. You certainly get the feeling that this album is important to McCulloch, the lyrics seem to be the most personal and confessional he has ever written, most notably in Playgrounds and City Parks and current single Sliding. There is an element of vulnerability underneath that notorious bravado after all. Swaggering opener Love In Veins, Kansas, the gritty Baby Hold On and standout track Stake Your Claim can hold their own with anything on the very impressive McCulloch curriculum vitae, which is no mean feat by any stretch of the imagination. That one or two don't quite hit the mark and come across as slightly overblown is a bit of a disappointment, but what else would you expect from someone of McCulloch's character. Don't let that put you off though, there are enough anthems and big choruses throughout to keep everybody happy. Age certainly hasn't blunted the McCulloch powers; the voice is as truly great as ever. If you are a Bunnymen fan this is an essential purchase, if you are a Coldplay fan likewise, it is an opportunity to see how it really should be done. I just hope messrs Martin and Buckland were taking notes when they had the chance, you don't get many opportunities to learn from a master of his craft. With this uplifting and heartfelt album the man in the overcoat and sunglasses makes yet another triumphant return. ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 08:43:21 -0400 From: Rob Maher Subject: seven-seas-moderated Re: seven-seas As it's the (London) Mac gig next week Thanks Raj. That was cool. It was a little surreal, hearing Mac do the vocal. I always loved that song. It sorta reminded me of the only recorded version of Ian Curtis singing it (that I know of) on "Still". Although, was Mac singing the lyrics right? I guess it doesn't really matter. Rob > From: "Noose Boy" > Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org > Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 17:04:57 +0100 > To: seven-seas@smoe.org > Subject: seven-seas As it's the (London) Mac gig next week > > I've mentioned this gig on the list a few times. It was in 1986 and > was called 'The Anniversary of the Tenth Summer' to celebrate 10 years > since punk. It was at the GMEX (Manchester) and had loads of bands > including The Fall, The Smiths, OMD, Pete Shelley and more. > > New Order headlined and Mac came on and sang Ceremony, follow the link > if you fancy listening to it. > > http://www.patelr.f2s.com/NewOrder.htm > > Cheers > Raj > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 14:30:00 +0100 From: "Noose Boy" Subject: seven-seas-moderated RE: seven-seas As it's the (London) Mac gig next week Yeah the common Joy Division version is the live one recorded at The Moonlight Club, London in 1980. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-seven-seas@smoe.org [mailto:owner-seven-seas@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rob Maher Sent: 02 May 2003 13:43 To: seven-seas@smoe.org Subject: Re: seven-seas As it's the (London) Mac gig next week Thanks Raj. That was cool. It was a little surreal, hearing Mac do the vocal. I always loved that song. It sorta reminded me of the only recorded version of Ian Curtis singing it (that I know of) on "Still". Although, was Mac singing the lyrics right? I guess it doesn't really matter. Rob > From: "Noose Boy" > Reply-To: seven-seas@smoe.org > Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 17:04:57 +0100 > To: seven-seas@smoe.org > Subject: seven-seas As it's the (London) Mac gig next week > > I've mentioned this gig on the list a few times. It was in 1986 and was > called 'The Anniversary of the Tenth Summer' to celebrate 10 years since > punk. It was at the GMEX (Manchester) and had loads of bands including > The Fall, The Smiths, OMD, Pete Shelley and more. > > New Order headlined and Mac came on and sang Ceremony, follow the link > if you fancy listening to it. > > http://www.patelr.f2s.com/NewOrder.htm > > Cheers > Raj > > > > ====================================== > http://www.bunnymenlist.com > > ====================================== ====================================== http://www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ====================================== The Official Seven-Seas Web Page. www.bunnymenlist.com ====================================== ------------------------------ End of seven-seas-moderated-digest V2 #132 ******************************************