From: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org (The Rockford Files) To: rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Subject: The Rockford Files V1 #322 Reply-To: rockford-files@smoe.org Sender: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk The Rockford Files Tuesday, December 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 322 Today's Filings: ----------------- pretty please BFF vs. signif-other relationships Hiddee Ho! More request for help The Sappy Files everyone hates a sad professor 'Twas brillig and the slithy toves Re: The Rockford Files V1 #321 It's educational! I Thought That's How You Felt About Tha Muthaf... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:13:34 -0700 From: Stacy Lynn Subject: pretty please Hello, I had a neato day at work. Got to talking with a guest... see, I work at Canyon Ranch and am a waitress there. Well, a few nights ago, I had a table that was really nice. Well, last night they saw me and started talking to me about all kinds of stuf. They were really friendly. I saw them again today, and they just started talking to me and talking to me, I told them about my radioshow, about school, travels, about my boyfriend, just all kinds of stuff. Well, he asked for information about listening to my radioshow, and I wrote it all down on a piece of paper, including my email address and everything. Then, he told me who he was... He is a bigshot hollywood producer by the name of Arnold Kopelson. Did The Fugitive, A Perfect Murder, and has an academy award sitting in his living room for Platoon. He then proceeded to give me compliments about my personality and what I have going for me, and then on a piece of paper, wrote down his address and phone number in case I ever came acrross a really good screenplay, or wanted an internship or soemthing. I mean WOW!!! I thought it was cool. Um, shameless plug, please check out my website. I updated it. I mean, totally tore down the old one and completely revamped it. It looks swell. I'll never be completely done with it, but I hope you all go visit my page. http://www.u.arizona.edu/~stacyf danke stacy Day comes I wake, I wake with a hard heartache I go down to your place We sit and chat about New York... --Rufus Wainwright "Danny Boy" http://www.u.arizona.edu/~stacyf icq #7641939 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:32:52 -0500 From: barbi Subject: BFF vs. signif-other relationships >As for BFF and relationships, well, I too am lucky enough to have met my >boyfriend as a result of a mutual liking of BFF. i wish that were true. I want to thank everyone for telling me about bff vs. significant-other relationships. I needed some advice. However, things this weekend have led me to look at it differently. Since a long distance relationship makes it difficult to see the real person, there was something i hadn't noticed as much before: My b/f, Matt, is such a sports FANATIC! It is the same as my BFF obsession. So I have no need to worry. This weekend was GREAT. Let me tell you guys, Matt looks REALLY good shirtless. How often do you see guys like that? But seriously, I have really fallen for him this weekend. Now I won't see him until christmas-time when I visit him. c you guys later Barbi icq 9254077 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:48:13 -0800 From: "Kamp, Marcus S" Subject: Hiddee Ho! Ginger: "i get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine" is from the strangest musical ever, "Chess". The song was "One Night in Bangkok". (Never try to stump a musician w/a memory built specifically for random, useless facts!) Others: Only a matter of moments, days, or possibly weeks till DFT returns from the duplication house. Rest assured I'll keep you posted! On that note, I had a cool happenstance over the holiday. I returned for the 1st time to KC (just to call Carrie's mom & say hi!) and we went to Best Buy (former employer). I ran into one of the coolest people I used to work with, who now works in the regional music office. He's gonna put DFT on the shelves @ the Lenexa Best Buy (for those of you from or w/friends in KC)!!! If it does well there, it'll make its way to the shelves of other regional Best Buys (AR, KS, MO, NE, & OK), so you Midworsterners keep your eyes peeled & tell all your friends & family! Forgot who (sorry!): "Oldest one in college" made me laugh!!! I would certainly be the oldest person in college if I were to return to uni, as I just turned 29. Jordan: No prob shipping to Oz. I'll get together w/you when DFT is available & we'll figger out how to handle the shipping deal. Others: DFT will eventually be available online @ a couple different places. I'll let you all know when/where. Sorry to disappoint you kiddies & trample on an icon, but I just can't get into Rufus Wainright. While I certainly wouldn't let him come in the way of a relationship (unlike Spice Girls, Puffy, Sugar Ray, etc.), I just can't seem to be convinced of his coolness. Thanks to all who wished happy b'day/holiday...even you, Anne:-)! (Remembering that you forgot counts as remembering!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:09:08 -0800 From: "Kamp, Marcus S" Subject: More BTW, just thought I'd point out an interesting fact...I live in the only actual Fjord in the continental US!!! Humorous to Fjorders all, I'm sure! More...still haven't bought Fear of Pop...guess I have Fear of Fear of Pop! It can't possibly be as kicky as SNZ's Xmas album, so I can't get excited by it, I guess! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:33:46 -0500 (EST) From: Ginger Nance Subject: request for help Hello all, In a sneaky it's-the-end-of-the-semester-and-i-don't-want-to-do-any-real-work move for my anthropology class, I have decided to write about the whole culture of fandom, specifically using BFF since I know them the best. This is where I need your help. I'm seeking stories, testimonies, whatever, about your experiences with the band, why you like them, and what it is about them that inspires you to buy their cds, make webpages for them, etc. In return, you get a mention in my rockin' term paper and my undying gratitude. Please send responses to gnance@email.unc.edu. Thanks! Ginger :) Ginger Nance gnance@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~gnance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:01:43 -0500 From: john_oc@juno.com Subject: The Sappy Files Wow. Enough talk of love on the Rockford Files. Some of us are unhappily single, and don't need to be reminded of the happiness that comes with the couple-life. It's amazing to see all this talk of you girlies roping in men out there...but how come that never really seems to happen. What I wouldn't do for a girl to ask 'me' out. Oh man, I am such a dork. Oh well...now, I'm not really trying to control the content of the files, but it had to be said. No more talk of sex and love, unless their offers of course. Hehe. Oh well, back to being bored and single in stupid Ohio. John ps. I love Ira from Yo La Tengo...he must be the coolest guy in the world. "Close your eyes and you'll see nothing at all or maybe it's everything at once." --Issac Brock, Modest Mouse ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:14:40 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: everyone hates a sad professor ...and yet i am sick again...dammit went to the doctor this afternoon; it's probably strep but time will tell. yes, this is in addition to the sinus infection I had the other week. Lovely weather we're having. Drugs are good...they've loaded me full of something nice and properly narcotic and i do believe I'm going to bed soon...missed another day of work/school. oh yes, what did I want to say? Ah...I saw the Rufus Wainwright Gap ad last night somewhere in my stupor. he seemed awfully annoying, although I like Rufus fine; could have been the fact that I couldn't breathe through my nose. Yes, yes, that would be it. Lack of sufficient airways when one is coughing up lungs, spleens, etc. is always reason for annoyance. And the "cheesy potatoes" reference on that 70s show...too much, considering the circumstances of Court-nay's Topher Grace infatuation. I laughed for quite a while. What else? Marcus, I sincerely hope that the Best Buys in wherever aren't as godawfully crowded as those in Syracuse. I waited for an hour and a half on Black Friday to purchase a damn mouse at Best Buy...let me not start on the scenes of carnage and chaos in CompUSA as a near-riot broke out over the $600 computers. Did manage to also buy the Pearl Jam live CD, which is a real treat, esp. the version of "Daughter". Let's all give it up for the Syracuse Orangemen, who humiliated das Wundercanes in front of 50,000 screaming faithful including yrs. truly on Saturday. It was one of the more interesting football-related experiences of my life, including getting mighty schnockered at a tailgate party and having my nachos dumped on my jacket by the Miami fan behind me. They gave out seat cards reading "Beat Miami" and "Go Orange" to everyone and by the end of the first quarter 50,000 paper airplanes were heading toward the field. Many people got nailed in the head by errant tosses and some marching band member caught one right in the schnozz during the James Brown medley at halftime. Buckets of fun. A pity I was too sick to lose my voice. I'm off to sleepy-time land...night/morning/afternoon all! - -- Dan Cohen Network Techni-whatever, Retail Flunky, Cable Modem Bee-yotch PC Solutions, Inc. Liverpool, New York http://emeraldsky.dyn.ml.org UIN:13907258 "...sheep go to heaven. goats go to hell..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:14:48 -0500 From: "Lyons, Anne" Subject: 'Twas brillig and the slithy toves Did gyre and gymbol in the wabe All mimsy were the borogoves and The mome wraths outgrabe Hey all! Apologies if any of the previous was misspelled... I am still riding on my euphoric high from the Pats comeback yesterday. Yes, that out-of-bounds call was completely suspect. Yes, that was indeed pass interference in the endzone (play the ball on a Hail Mary... not the man... not to mention they'd been calling that all game long on both sides.). Yes, Terry Glenn shoulda caught it in the first place. Yes, I think my voice is still hoarse from screaming while I jumped up and down. NFL/CBS Question of the Day yesterday was "Who would you want to lead your team in the 2:00 drill? a.) Steve Young; b.) Brett Favre; c.) Dan Marino; d.) John Elway" HELL-o! I actually turned to my dad at that point (maybe the 1st quarter) and said... "And why isn't Bledsoe listed? Or Flutie? Am I missing something or are they?" I think the answer is that they were. No matter what... it was a great football game to watch... it's so nice to be on the winning end of some tough calls for once! My Thanksgiving was very nice, thankyouverymuch. I ate lots of stuffed celery, which is my favorite. (You can send me all your leftovers, Meg -- cuz I love 'em!!!) My apple pie was a success as well... Jordan... sorry for waxing American on ya again! And thanks for the unsolicited* words of praise -- it's gawram** touching, I swear! As to casting calls and whatnot... as soon as we mount*** the production down under -- you will be the first one I tell about auditions (and no worries... "audition" is a loose term...) Ginger: Your dream annealysis for your reading pleasure... Hmmm... rewinding the parade. Makes me think of taking a second look at things that are going on in your life... specifically any milestones that may have happened or are happening (parade = celebration). So what I mean is that there might have been some big thing that has happened recently, and you think you are supposed to feel a certain way, but you don't feel that way and you are annealyzing to see why that is. Wait! Aren't you turning 21 shortly? So maybe you are hitting one of those points in your life where you aren't sure what you are supposed to have accomplished so far... so you are doing a little deep introspection to see where you are and where you're headed. Then the whole Ben thing... well... the "not wanting to explain" deal is probably your psyche saying to you "enough of this deep introspection... let's just move forward, girl!" Or not. And the channel changing... that to me is a pure control situation. It seems like you want to be in control -- but are afraid of taking that control from others (either because they have been helpful to you [parents, friends, others] or because you aren't sure what they will think if you go off on your own [do I really know what I'm doing, etc.]). So I think the whole thing is all about you annealyzing your life (but not too much!) and taking control of your destiny. All good, Ginger... it's alllllll good. = ) Or you might have still been tripping in the tryptophan... = D Quickies: Kristin: Glad to hear your trip to WV went well... And aren't MOTB**** always somewhat weird, no matter how nice they are? It's always been like that in my experience, anyway! Sandi: Loved your high school reminiscikaling! I just *knew* you were fan club presidential material! *grin* As to your ex-friend, ex-boyfriend (the one who owes you money) Just let us know where he lives and we can assemble Matthew's Militia! You just know that he's been waiting for any reason to use those light bulb bombs that he's been carefully constructing in his basement... Meg & Em: Welcome back! Tavia: Your play sounds really interesting! Feel free to use me as a sounding board (I think your fellow countryman Dave can attest to my always honest feedback regarding scripts!). Elisabeth: Now... I'm going to tell you something that I know you are no going to heed... because I've been there -- gotten this advice -- and *still* had to figure it out on my own. Anyway... here it is: There is no use worrying about what boys are thinking. You can always ask them point-blank what they are thinking... but then you run the risk of them thinking that you are too strident. So here is a suggestion: Keep him in your fantasy world where he likes you and you like him and you go off and have a passionate relationship. And if you see him in the REAL world... feel free to invite him out again. But if he doesn't show... don't think too much of it. And if he DOES show... don't think too much of it. What I mean is... because you are thinking about him so much... it seems like a much bigger deal when something does (or does not) happen. You have to remember that the fantasy world doesn't translate well into the real world. (E-mail me if you want a better idea of what in Sam Hell I am talking about.) On top of all that... here's the problem with "young love" (and by that I mean most school relationships -- high school and college) as I see it: (WARNING: Anne's opinions are lots of times not even remotely valid, but she likes to spout off anyway...) Most girls are attracted to "dangerous" guys. Dangerous guys have a tendency to break hearts -- which is why they seem so attractive. Girls get a f'ed up idea of what 'love' is all about (passion, the "he-loves-me-he-loves-me-not" addiction). Most guys are attracted to popular girls -- they like to "win" at dating. And once you've won... there's no point in staying -- hence, the break-up. Nice guys (the ones who aren't in it for the conquest-rush) lose to the dangerous guys -- they repeatedly get the "I don't want to lose your friendship" excuse. It's only later that women start to value friendship in their love relationships... nice guys win in the long run as do nice girls. So, is my cynicism showing? So... Elisabeth & Dan & Jordan... you guys will win in the long run (because you are all nice). And you'll also win in the short run -- you'll have lots of relationships, I promise. But I will take any odds that you will be crushed by someone... and probably more than once. We've all been there. And at the time you will be bitter... but later you'll realize that it is bittersweet. It's tough to match the wonderment of young love... I think I've digressed sufficiently here. As to being weird (Jordan)... I think I'm weirder than I think. But I seem a lot more normal than I am. *grin* - -Anne * Your check is in the mail. ** Gawram is what the Clinton High football coach would say instead of "God Damn". His favorite phrase was "Gawram suckers..." I kinda like it. *** For E... "hee hee hee... I said mount." **** Mothers Of The Boyfriends ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:42:49 -0500 From: shirak@umich.edu Subject: Re: The Rockford Files V1 #321 Well, my Thanksgiving was decent. No one tried to kill each other, but no real sense of family bonding. Ah well, I'm used to it by now. Funniest part of the evening came when we found out my brother, who has escaped jail time by miracle of God, was being called for jury duty. His comment was, "Nah, I don't like court." My mom and I had to stop ourselves from busting out laughing. ;) Nothing really special to say, I just wanted to clutter the airwaves with my asinine chatter. ;) Rasputina's debut album kicks ass, and the only reason I don't have it is my slacker Goth friend Liza hasn't dubbed it for me yet. Let's see, BFF and relationships. Well, my only real experience in that arena was when I took my ex to their show in Grand Rapids, and that turned out well for me. Of course, since it involved my love life, it ended badly. ;) Quick question, and the married people can stay out of this one (not that I don't love our FL and Anne.) Who here is actually happy in love? I say that everyone who answers no to that question needs to come over to my house for a big massive pity party. We'll all get drunken and bitter and make sarcastic remarks to the world. How does that sound? Either that, or we all just end up in a sweaty, naked pile of flesh by the end of the night. ;) Hail Eris! ERIC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:40:30 EST From: jaedonely@juno.com Subject: It's educational! Hey guys, I just had to tell y'all bout school today. I got to talk in front of the school and introduce this speaker from Amnesty, which was a gas since I truly dig those type of things. I was actually the emcee for the Safe Prom Fashion Show last year and that kicked ass, too, especially because I got to get all pretty for free and I just had to describe the dresses. The highlight of the show was when this girl came out in this show stopper, with fancy straps and some exposed stomach, and all I could say was "It has... straps" It was goofy. Anyways, I also orchestrated quite possibly the coolest afternoon announcement ever, because I forced this girl to talk about how we were playing music during lunches and once she was done, I blasted the end of "American Music" by the violent femmes into the speaker. It was great! I cackled like a witch! You know what? In my limited high school world, all the straight boys I have introduced to Rufus have had really extreme reactions to him. I think thats interesting. Its nice to see the more open minded RFer boys at least taking a gander at him, god in my world boys just listen to "tool and korn, tool and korn" and the beastie boys. Thank you for letting me ramble last night about the travails of my nonexistent love life, it was quite catharic to spill it out and I digged that. Dont fear, John, I myself am the pathetically single person amongst the really really happy couples who are 17, mind you, and already acting, to quote brigit jones, like "smug marrieds" -did I tell youguys about the day of music that I, in my head call "tolitarian reign?" Anne, I think that you are exactly right. I think a big ol' problem that I have is that I definetly have relationships in my head; that tend to f*&!! up my real life, because how can I let thiings go slowly with someone if we're already married in my head? (If that makes sense) Lastly, que fucking cool! I am an intern at the best free rag in Boston, the weekly week. And my wonderful boss gets to interview a tba announced member of the jon spencer blues explosion tomorrow! Whoo hoo! I am definetly going to live vicariously through her. I tried to see the blues explosion, and I was denied. They make me laugh and laugh and laugh. ~Elisabeth "oh my god Im a dj." Wait- One Night In Bangkok-is that the weird song with ladies singing "One night in bangkok makes a hard man humble!" and theres a guy "singing" whose voice is kind of weird and Fred Schnieder esque? Never knew that was from a musical, if so. Always thought it was a cheesy 80's song. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:52:28 EST From: FieryLox@aol.com Subject: I Thought That's How You Felt About Tha Muthaf... hi. i'm cross pollenating with a bit of somewhat BFF related news: in the song "For Those Of Ya'll That Wear Fanny Packs", which is track number 6 (7?) on the album Naked Baby Photos, there is a portion of the song decidated to someone who hails from my hometown, Atlanta, GA. his name is ernie, and apparently he gave the boys a bad time at the atlanta club called "the point". "this one goes out to my man ernie at the point in atlanta, give me some motherfuckin' monitor...'i can't give you any more monitor than that, the transistors, the res...'" you all know the song, i'm sure. ANYWAY... so last week...or two weeks ago...i went to the Atlanta Local Music Awards. and up for best venue (don't ASK me why...) was "the point". well, they won, and who comes up onto the stage but a mumbling, drunken ERNIE, who greeted the crowd with "thanks for this shit" before being shooed offstage by the host, who said, "ernie's been drinkin'" it was quite riotous, actually. the real reason i went was to see a wonderfully talented local band, the marvelous 3. anyone in the southeast/GA should check them out if they happen to come through town... i would like to shout out to the aussie members of this list: you all make the best damn movies ever. "Adventures Of Priscilla, Queen Of The Desert", "Strictly Ballroom", "Muriel's Wedding", "Love Serenade" (to a lesser degree...)...and the actors you send over! RAWR! Guy Pearce and Russell Crowe? ah. i also must give thanks and salutes to my coteriers, dan, lucy, katie, ginger, scottie, gina, court-foo, suzy, and anyone else i forgot. tally ho! sara ------------------------------ End of The Rockford Files V1 #322 *********************************