From: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org (The Rockford Files) To: rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Subject: The Rockford Files V1 #226 Reply-To: rockford-files@smoe.org Sender: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk The Rockford Files Thursday, August 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 226 Today's Filings: ----------------- pish Re: A shameless post from Spec oh pooey _very_ long post indeedy. Gender Bending 101 If I go insane, don't put your wires in my brain CHAT WITH BEN FOLDSs brother Show me a reason and I'll soon show you a rhyme This is a BFF list, right? America's Castles Looking Like a Jew?! TMBG midnight friday *sigh* Re: Looking Like a Jew?! DeLillo just saying Hi in hiding ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:47:56 PDT From: "Courtney Knopf" Subject: pish Oh gee, guess what i did yesterday? I SLEPT through my drivers test!! can you belive what a schmuck i am? I came home from my dentist appointment at 12:30 and took a nap to let the novocaine wear off, but apparently the novocaine was stronger than I thought and I ended up sleeping until 3:20. meanwhile my driver's test was at 2:20. oh well, i suppose it's for the best. i was really in no condition to drive with all those drugs in my system. i wasn't even fully un-numb (not that un-numb is even a word) until about 4:00. Spencer: *I* watch America's Castles!!! i'm a geek like that. i also watch Great Chefs and World Class Cuisine. I learned how to make some really rockin' french toast from one of those shows. oh, and you're not too selective abotu who you will and won't date. I'm the same way. this guy who asked me out was nice enough, but then i found that he had a Savage Garden tape in his car *AND* he switched stations when SNZ came on. Needless to say, our relationship went no further than an afternoon movie. Jordan: Yes, Ive seen L.A. Confidential! in fact i own it, AND i met the director when he brought it to a class for a screening at school. ouchie my cat has got some serious claws. she's sitting here next to me pawing at my leg and OUCH! Well everyone, i'm going to be on digest for a few days until I get back and situated at school. in fact i'm just about to pack up my computer to ship it back to L.A. tomorrow. ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "Well I'm always frank and earnest with the ladies. I'm Frank in Chicago and Earnest in New York." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:47:32 -0700 From: Jennifer Auletto Subject: Re: A shameless post from Spec Spencer Corden wrote: ... I've only opened up once for Pauly Shore and once for the Spin Doctors. How incredibly demeaning. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in a MIDI suite constructing an episode of America's Castles on A&E that noone will ever see... Not true! My boyfriend's mom loves that show. She tapes it. :) And sushi rules. Jennifer Auletto jenauletto@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 02:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jordan W." Subject: oh pooey hey peeps. spec, i would marry you in a second if you were a chick. however, one will come along one day. oh well. let's go to the cinema and see it's a wonderful life. it's showing, you know. my name is cool australia rules. we have the best beer in the world bar none, i gots some questions to ask you people, but that will have to wait. school rocked my face today, as i found out that i am duxing the year so far. coolness. bentent being that there is a BFF rockumentary coming out sometime. cause i just found that out. so that's what all the cameras were for. tata for now Jordan "Spencer said i'm cool" Wightman _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:28:09 +0000 From: "Luke Wilson" Subject: _very_ long post indeedy. This communication and the information it contains:- (a) Is intended for the person(s) or organisation(s) named above and for no other person(s) or organisation(s). (b) May be confidential, legally privileged and protected in law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please contact us immediately by email at postmaster@fwuk.fwc.com ______________________________________________________________ hey everyone, Just a few points of pointlessness. British radio: It's awful. There I was reading Jordan's last post, and he says the the _japanese_ SFTD is being played on triple J? yikes. I've never even heard the normal, run of the mill SFTD on the most indie/alternative radio stations over here...lucky little gits. Why can't they realise that the airwaves don't need to be filled with Robbie Williams, All Saints and other mindless cheesy poptastic arse? Because the station heads are mindless gibbering fools with no idea of decent music. I blame it all on increased pokcet money for little kids...listen to this for ridiculous logic. More money for kids, means more expenditure by kids. Kids don't buy albums, only singles (generally). The singles they buy are never lyrically-heavy, or intricate - the kids want to sing and dance along. The stations realise this. They pander to the kids tastes. Hence, British radio is designed for the 12-17 age group, who hardly listen to it as much as the 18-25 group. Idiots. "australian music is cool" Damn right. A year ago you would never have got me going away from American/English tunes, but today? Well, they've just got this _sound_, you know? Especially the Mavis' and the Fauves and Cordrazine. Superb. Unfortunately, they just don't get the promotion over here (why does this sound like BFF?) and their cd's have to be imported specially for anyone who wants to buy it. Jordan (and in parts, Markus and Kate): I both worship you and hate your very being. One of the lucky "few" to see the mighty 'House at the Opera House. Git. Being 12000 miles away from there, I couldn't exactly see it, and have to make up with the shoddy video they released to comemmorate the moment - they cut whole songs out, inculding "Weather With You"! How could they?! Bastards. As for Australians being able to claim Crowded House as their own, allow me to rant for a moment. Neil Finn, as you should all know, is from Te Awamutu, NZ, but Paul Hester and Nick Seymour are Aussie, so in theory, you're more correct in saying CH are Aussie. However, during the Woodface era, Tim Finn joined the group, resulting in a 50%-50% split, so they could be neither Aussie or from NZ. The story of the forming of CH is pretty complex - Split Enz formed in 1972 and were originally Tim Finn, Geoff Chunn and Mike Chunn, with Phil Judd, and two other people my mind won't let me remember at this hour joining soon after. In 1984-5, they split, after many personnel changes, and having as many as 7 members at once. One of the members at the death of SE was Neil Finn, who joined as a 18-year-old in 1977. They revolutionised Antipodean music, bringing in it's own sounds, and relying less and less on UK and American influences. After the split, Neil Finn wanted to form a band as his brother had done - he recruited Nick Seymour (bass) and Paul Hester (drums) and called them The Mullanes (Neil's middle name, and mother's maiden name is Mullane). After many mispronunciations (Mundanes etc.) they changed their name to CH - and the rest is history. God I can ramble. Oh, and buy Try Whistling This - it's godly. And yes, Markus, Tim Finn is heavily under-rated. Buy his stuff too, people! Either that, or get Finn, the album collaboration between the two brothers. Also Jordan, I wasn't able to go to V98 - but I will see them tomorrow :) nice...and as for the Ashes, well, at the risk of getting myself mocked and laughed at...we're going to beat you hands down, matie! Easily. That's right Kirst, I said _England_ will beat _Australia_! Hopefully. And Kate, let me get this right. You're Australian. You like Crowded House. You _weren't_ at Farewell to the World. Why? :) And as for being televised in the UK, it was, as part of a very lame Aussie night, but it was even more cut than the video i.e they only played stuff off Recurring Dream to plug it. H&C are cool, but I really should get more of their stuff. However, I'm after See Ya Round, which is proving _very_ difficult to find out here. And as for how UKonBention arouses me - well, that's for me to know, and you to find out :) The woman in the mask: ukonbention. hehehe that's probably ott, but what the hell, it's funny. And it was written, and came to pass that on the next Ben Folds Five tour of the UK mainland, there would be a ukonbention. Sounds like a canadian province to me... driving. don't let ro drive whatever you do. she's dangerous. not that i'm any better. we could attatch a trailer to that back of their tour bus - save on petrol and don't lose them either :) now _that_ is an idea. Do you reckon they'd notice? Then, under the dark of night, we could move the trailer ever closer, until we're a part of the road crew and no-one realises. Hmm...I like it. uh oh, yet more proof that luke is indeed the real sick man in this so-called society. watch out everyone.... Look, just 'cause I wear a suit and tie does _not_ make me sick! :) Cheers Luke ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:46:52 -0400 From: Spencer Corden Subject: Gender Bending 101 Jordan W. brings back memories of "The Crying Game" with: <> And all along I thought the RF was a non-gender format. You see, this is my problem. It's people like you and Markus that understand my quirks even through email----but you're both male. Dammit. Perhaps we could hold a seminar for women called, "How to Deal With the Weird Ones" so they could begin to comprehend the complex organisms called Spencer, Markus, and Jordan. The opening line would be: "And just let me take a second to give a shout out to all the fine ladies in the house tonight!!!!! " I'm sure that'll win 'em over. Court-nay scribbles: <> (Why did my email package just make the above passage turn blue? Freaky. I've never seen it do that before....) Anyway, cool! We just bought The Food Network, so start looking for name fly past at a breakneck speed on the music credits. I can just hear it now..."Quick Spencer! Write something about Crock Pot potatoes and pot roast that we need for the next segment!!!" On the other hand, I just finished the music for the next America's Castles on A&E called "New England Retreats". Look for it within the next month or so. Usually they credit the music to the studio as a whole, which kinds of ruffles my feathers. I want *my* name on there! *sniff* Clayton: I have no clue what's going to happen with TDS except that Jon Stewart will be the new host. This is an excellent solution as far as I'm concerned. I think someone mentioned that Stewart would start in January, even though Kilborn"s contract doesn't expire until Sept. of '99. And at least we'll be able to Craiggers in another form over on NBC. And I will admit, LIFE GOES ON! I never thought I'd hear myself type that, much less *say* it. Spencer "will the coffee this morning get rid of my saki headache? Corden ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:55:15 -0400 From: wizard@twcny.rr.com Subject: If I go insane, don't put your wires in my brain Hmm...OK, so it's a Pink Floyd reference this morning, but I accept all the responsibility for that. Tee-hee. I promise I'll still get a Beastie quote in here somewhere. OK, news, news, news. It looks like Posh and/or Scary Spice may be pregnant, which basically gives Baby Spice a little competition. That could be interesting though...seeing Baby and Sporty alone on stage while the other two are weighing 200 pounds and in bed. Considering that Sporty always sings like she has a bad hernia and Baby can only posture and look like she's a small child, I don't think Spice Girls concerts in a few months will be so much fun. Not that they are now by any means, although I wouldn't be caught dead at one. I came exceedingly close to playing the standard big brother role in July when the Girls came to Darien Lake, but luckily we weren't able to get tickets. Heh. Also I see that the Verve may be breaking up....I'm indifferent. I really have no opinion on the Verve. Stupid TV shows? Oh, MAN!!! I am a frequent viewer of whatever the TV Food Network has to offer, not just the oh-so- trendy Emeril Lagasse. Can you say "Molto Mario"? Mario rocks me. And "How to Boil Water" too. When I'm at my friend's with a satellite dish, you know it's Game Show Network time. I also enjoy watching the weird crap on VH-1. Behind the Music, while it isn't as underground as it used to be, is one of my favorite shows. All-time best BTM? Either Studio 54 (movie comes out Friday!!!) or Milli Vanilli. MC Hammer comes a close second. I also hear that Vanilla Ice has a new "skater-punk" album coming out next month. I am literally holding my breath in anticipation. I didn't even know he was alive...I thought Suge Knight had thrown him off a balcony or something. Ah well. I did my very first complete windmill today. That's a breakdancing move, by the way, for the uninitiated. It absolutely rocks, although I couldn't do another one afterwards. After I practice that, I'm working on my headspins. I can get up about 3/4 of the way. I might wait until the nose heals though. Speaking of which, I had an icky moment today. Please skip this if you are easily offended or have a weak stomach. When I was little, I had a serious problem with my nose where it bled a lot, constantly. I eventually had it fixed (yowch), and it's been better since. Today, I'm sitting on the couch, watching Seinfeld, when my head starts to feel all wacky. Suddenly, all this blood starts spewing out of both of my nostrils. It took me about 20 minutes to stop it. With the exception of the blood from breaking my nose Sunday, I haven't had a nosebleed like this in about 7 or 8 years. I really hope I don't have to get it cauterized again. That was easily the most painful thing I ever had to undergo. OK...the Eagle-Eye Cherry video is on and it's really starting to grow on me. I never thought they'd play a song like that on K-Rock, but yesterday they did. Killer. I really like the acoustic guitar part in the song. I just hope that isn't his real name. Poor guy:) OK. Going to close now and get ready for work. By the way, if this message looks screwy, it's because I'm using a new mail client for it that I'm unsure about. I usually use Netscape, but I decided to try Pegasus because I can get my spam filter running on it. The text formatting is all weird, though. I might just cut-and paste if that'll fix it. Fresh like a box of Krispy Kremes (see...there it is!), ~Dan Cohen Minister of Pretentious False Titles and Turbo-Pimp Extraordinaire, DNRC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:30:14 -0400 From: vito Subject: CHAT WITH BEN FOLDSs brother i hope you all are planning on chatting with chuck folds this friday night when: august 28th at midnite (early morning august 29th) where: the chat room on my page please respond if you are coming whatever and ever vito BBB EEEE N N FFFF OO L DD SS FFFF I V V EEEE B B E NN N F O O L D D S F I V V E BBB EEE N N N FFF O O L D D S FFF I V V EEE B B E N NN F O O L D D S F I V V E BBB EEEE N N F goATman1@geOCitiES.com F I V EEEE - ----- http://www.Geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/7544/bf5.html ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:56:15 -0400 From: Sean Kiely Subject: Show me a reason and I'll soon show you a rhyme >>Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:33:09 -0700 >>From: "Kamp, Marcus S" >>Subject: May Every RF Contain Markus! Why is it spelled differently in the subject line? just wondering... must go work on the noosepaper now sean ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:31:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Patton Subject: This is a BFF list, right? I just tend to forget that sometimes. Now, for your commercial saftey, the FCC has told me to announce that this post has absolutely NO Bentent. ;) I just wanted to tell all you lovely people two things. 1) I almost had a pet opposum. I was walking home from a friend's birthday party (completely sober, before any of you start forming ideas.) I get there, say hi to my housemates, walk up to my room, and step into the bathroom. Then I notice that my toilet had grown a tail. This being very irregular, I decided to check it out, and there little Pogo was. It was just a baby, and it was scared to death. It didn't play dead, however, which is wierd. Guess I can never trust Animal Planet again. Anyway, we got the little bugger out of our house, so I didn't get to keep him. He was really cute though. 2) I'M GOING TO SEE TMBG!!!!! You see, They Might Be Giants makes it a habit to stop in Ann Arbor whenever their schedulign permits, and I've missed the past couple of times they were in town. Not this time, baby. Tix go on sale the day my paycheck clears, and I'm gonna be all in that. ;) Anyway, time to maek the donuts, or whatever. Laters all! ERIC _______________________________________________________________________________ How many Zen masters does it take to change a light bulb? Two: One to change it, and one not to change it. _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:54:24 -0700 From: "Kamp, Marcus S" Subject: America's Castles SPENCER: I (of course) watch America's Castles on A&E. Evidently, you & I were formed simply to support each others efforts @ perfecting the world through music & well-chosen breeding partners! EVERYONE ELSE: As a left-coaster I must honorably recuse myself from the gang wars. These are the Files, not the damned Armchair. Hope I don't hafta run away from this haven of E's!!! Markus's Advice, pt. 654: Come to Seattle for Sinforosa/Missing Persons! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:48:14 -0700 From: "Kamp, Marcus S" Subject: Looking Like a Jew?! Jon, what kind of comment is this?! I mean, forget Political Correctness for a 2nd but dammit, man, try ta act like a human being, will ya?! I was thoroughly offended by this. And no, I don't "look like a Jew", I look very much like the Kraut/Mick I am, thankyouverymuch. One of my best friend's mother (an Austrian Jew) escaped a concentration camp as a young girl but lost both her siblings and both her parents. You really need ta think about what you write before you write it, lest someone should think you "look like an insensitive prick"! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:55:21 -0700 From: Stacy Lynn Subject: TMBG midnight friday > 2) I'M GOING TO SEE TMBG!!!!! You see, They Might Be Giants makes >it a habit to stop in Ann Arbor whenever their schedulign permits, and >I've missed the past couple of times they were in town. Not this time, >baby. Tix go on sale the day my paycheck clears, and I'm gonna be all in >that. ;) Anyway, time to maek the donuts, or whatever. Laters all! you lucky lucky lucky you. someday.... someday I'll go too! btw, Eric, my Uncle went to UM. When I was a kid he taught me the fight song and all. Woohoo! But now I disappointed him and go to the U of Arizona. Where I have classes like The French Novel and Society, Humanities of Native Americans, Mexican Americans, and African Americans, Syntax, and French 305b which I am dropping because I've had this prof before, and she can't teach her way out of a paper bag!!! Anyway. And VITO-Midnight Pafific? Mountain? Eastern? I need a time zone. Or maybe I'm stupid and didn't see it. Let me check again. Yeah, ok, still need a time zone from you. hehe..... Stacy Proud owner of the 7" Underground single Cuz everyones my friend in New York City And evertything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty The streets are paved with diamonds And there's just so much to see But the best thing about New York City is you and me. --They Might Be Giants "New York City" http://www.u.arizona.edu/~stacyf icq #7641939 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:31:26 -0500 From: Jessica Brandt Subject: *sigh* i hate reading the RF. i feel so...inadequate. Except for my rather large... bootleg collection :( Jess *********************************************************** I'm not just naked, I'm Naked for Jesus!!! * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * http://www.theshrubbery.prohosting.com --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:21:29 -0400 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Re: Looking Like a Jew?! Kamp, Marcus S wrote: > Jon, what kind of comment is this?! I mean, forget Political > Correctness for a 2nd but dammit, man, try ta act like a human being, > will ya?! I was thoroughly offended by this. And no, I don't "look > like a Jew", I look very much like the Kraut/Mick I am, > thankyouverymuch. One of my best friend's mother (an Austrian Jew) > escaped a concentration camp as a young girl but lost both her siblings > and both her parents. You really need ta think about what you write > before you write it, lest someone should think you "look like an > insensitive prick"! Thanks, Marc(k)us. I've had to put up with looking like a Jew for almost 16 years. No problems yet, nose or no nose, but it still hurts when people say things like that. I'm descended from a line of Russian Jews who have fallen victim to all sorts of nasty things based on who they are. I don't hold it against you, Jon; my people (cliche alert! whirp! whirp!), me included, have dealt with shit for thousands of years. I can remember being called "Jewboy" in elementary school and not understanding what people meant by making fun of who I was. People have impressions of you if you're different based on what they were taught. My family isn't especially rich, and we really don't resemble the stereotypical Jew. It only shows that people are afraid of what they don't know about when they say things. I recommend you check out some books sometime on Jewish history: the Diaspora, the Holocaust, or the immigration movement in the 1800's. It's really pretty interesting. No hard feelings, though. If you truly meant it as a joke, and not a crack against me personally, I forgive you. Shalom :), Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:32:18 -0500 From: john_oc@juno.com Subject: DeLillo DeLillo's Libra is definately good, but better are "Mao II", "Underworld", and especially "Great Jones Street". Nothing else. John "Close your eyes and you'll see nothing at all or maybe it's everything at once." --Issac Brock, Modest Mouse _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:50:30 EST From: "Lauren Hinchey" Subject: just saying Hi Hi there people, Just thought I'd do a bit of posting cause I haven't posted for 3 or 4 months....what can I say, I'm a lurker! Luke:>Of course, then you can go to "Ta", which in circumstances of great thanks is "Ta muchly", but this tends to be a term used widely in the north of England. Not just in England, as an Aussie girl I use "Ta" and "Ta muchly" a heck of a lot, I don't say Cheers though! Jordan:>i am feeling rather dejected at the state of australian movies recently. welcome to woop woop seems to be a cheap shot. Sad isn't it, have you seen The Castle though? Damn funny movie! >John Howard even owning a singlet makes me slightly nauscious. imagine.. on second thought, don't. ooh bad, even worse, Kim Beazley in stubbies. eeeeeeeew... Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh thats the stuff nightmares are made of!!! >australian federal elections, on oct 17th, you just wait. i am taking bets on this at the moment. personally I'm going for very early october! Get an election in before the people wake up and realize whats happening around them! I wish I could vote!!!!!! Just to add to the books thread that was going on, my favorite books are: The Vampire Chronicles : Anne Rice Little Women : Louisa M Alcott (I love the sequels aswell) anything by Jane Austen I have a heap of favorites, I just can't remember any of them now! Actually I have a thing for classical novels, I'm reading War and Peace at the moment! I think someone mentioned Livid a couple of digests ago, hands up whose going??????? mmmmmmmmm well I think thats all for me, I guess its back to lurking for a while now! Bye All Lauren H The Wonderful Wisdom of Rocko ~ Rockos Modern Life ~ "Garbage day is a very dangerous day" "Big dog, big ferocious dog, we're shaking aren't we Spunky" "Eeeeeuuuuuuwwww, BAD SAUSAGE" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:24:48 -0500 From: Jessica Brandt Subject: in hiding Hey i just got home from the cleveland Pearl Jam show. It was totally euphoric. if you're not a PJ fan, or if you're going to reply to this post in a flame, well fuck off and skip this post. but anyway, PJ was the last band i was obsessed about before BFF. Seeing them (for the second time now, once in 1994) was like seeing an old boyfriend and remembering all the stuff you loved about them...almost depressing! i felt like i was 15 again (which was depressing too). The setlist RAWKED...they played "footsteps" which is one of my fave PJ songs. They also played "rearviewmirror" and "corduroy" which totally brought me back to the days of when i was in a band and those were the only PJ songs we covered. ahhh...there was so much pot there! why was there so much pot there?? and why do people have to DRINK so much at concerts??? god damn, you'd think that at $5 a beer one would be enough. oh, wait. they COME drunk...how f'n annoying. just trying to stand on themuddy hill watching your band, and every five minutes some drunk comes tumbling into you. then there's the "adults." they are the worst. they drink the most. they smoke pot (borrowed from kids in exchange for beer). This one lady had on a tube top and her belly was TOTALLY sticking out the sides. she had a bellybutton ring too. and NO TAN...little jean shorts...she was totally molesting her husband the whole time. I bet they were there just for Iggy pop. Iggy pop. he showed his butt! he was mad at 'some fat fuck' in the front row. yeah! uhm....oh yeah the show rocked. Seeing PJ do 'baba o'riley' was one of the most amazing things i've ever seen. Eddie rode in on a skateboard. how's that for roots? and it was one of those long ones, like surfers ride! yay! okay enough PJ. i am so psyched. hey if you were the one guy there with a BFF shirt on (that wasn't a middle-aged dork) e-mail me. Jess *********************************************************** I'm not just naked, I'm Naked for Jesus!!! * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * http://www.theshrubbery.prohosting.com --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- *********************************************************** ------------------------------ End of The Rockford Files V1 #226 *********************************