From: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org (The Rockford Files) To: rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Subject: The Rockford Files V1 #212 Reply-To: rockford-files@smoe.org Sender: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk The Rockford Files Thursday, August 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 212 Today's Filings: ----------------- Poona! hello again, my friends Backstreet Boys Must DIE!!!! Drink up one more time... FW: Ben Fold Five fan wins big Words of Wisdom...Or Would That Be "Wisdrum"? Sabrina the Teengae Witchie Woman Money makin', money, money makin' Hello Nasty Re: Poona! I feel like Sandi SEX! Now that I've got your attention, read this post... Sweet Mother of Jesus.....!!!! Can't stop myself from saying this... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 03:54:37 -0400 From: Jessica Brandt Subject: Poona! Anoop! My man! You made a boo-boo and then everyone had to read my post twice, or at least ignore it twice. Katie and I decided that your names looks like it's something spelled backwards, but really when you spell it backwards, it doesn't say anything. I think that when you say your name, it sounds like a rap loop. If the guys came to my house for dinner....Well since i work at a fancy-dancy restaurant and know 5 or 6 actual chef-people, I would say "hey chef-people, come over ot my house to cook" and since at the restaurant i am the "salad slinger and dessert bitch" I would make the salads and dessert. The boys can have anything their little hearts desire. Jordan, there are no milkmen in the US anymore. at least not that i know of. i think it's because Americans have guns (unlike canadians). Yeah, where ARE Spence and Carrie? sheesh. I'm listening to VITALOGY. how cool is that?? foxymophandlemomma is freaking me out cuz it's coming at me from all sorts of angles....eep! Marcus, the Squirrel Nut Zippers are going all over the friggin' west and northwest! ALL OVER! then they're stopping at Cincy and knoxville on the way back home. For some reason, i imagine the west as this big desert...and the zippers standing out on a wodden stage in the middle of this desert with nothing but whisping sand around, scratching their heads and saying "why the HELL didn't we go to Cleveland, instead?" I don' tlike Belle and Sebastian. I got the CD from someone and it didn't grow on me. Wanna fight about it? :) My brother, on the other hand, who is a total prog-rock-ambient-space-music guy, loves them, so i gave him the cd. Jess *********************************************************** I'm not just naked, I'm Naked for Jesus!!! * --+-READ THE SHRUBBERY-+-- * http://www.theshrubbery.prohosting.com --New Every Month- -Humor, Music, News and More-- *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:23:59 -0500 (CDT) From: LaRubia@bigfoot.com (Carrie) Subject: hello again, my friends Regarding Beasties: "My chrome is shining just like an icicle-- I ride around town on my low-rider bicycle." I am a BIG HUGE Beasties fan. OK, so I didn't go buy their new album and all I own is "Paul's Boutique," "Check Your Head," and memories, memories, memories of a childhood full of Beasties. YES, I went to their show last Friday here in KC. It was amazing. Kemper Arena (our hockey-rodeo venue) was full, every seat (15,000) and every space on the floor inhabited (security *completely* broke down). I now know what it would be like to be part of, say, a fanatic religious cult, or a soccer riot. Insanity. Anyhow, their set was fantastic. A solid 1/3 of it was punk stuff they did before the Beasties went "r&b" back in '82 or so. They did a lot of instrumental funk, etc., and most of the "rap" songs they did were good old 80's stuff ("Root Down," "Brass Monkey," "Eggman," etc.). In fact, they didn't play "Intergalactic" or "Sabotage" until the encore. Que fabuloso!!! Amazing show. Those thirtysomethings sure have a lot of energy! Geez! Sorry I've been away so long. My job was sucking the breath from my lungs. Luckily, today is my last day. *woo hoo* And in fact, I've only got 9 more days till I go back to Cleveland! (Kansas City = cool place, parents; Cleveland = not-very-cool place, school, nookie) Hope you all are well, mes peches. Marcus! I was kinda thinkin'... My birthday is coming up... And you have something I want... ;-) (deadlyfaerietalesdeadlyfaerietalesdeadlyfaerietales) But if you want me to send you a check, *sigh* I will. And I'm sorry your ex-girlfriend is a dirty fecking whore. This is not good... What would I cook for Ben, Robert, and Darren? I would make Rose Sorbet. It's my ... um, specialty. You saturate water with superfine sugar and boil the petals of one rose for each serving in the sugar-water for five minutes. Strain the petals out, add lemon juice, and freeze. It's the most sensual dessert in the world. It's even more sensual if you mix in a little peach brandy.... mmmmmmmmmm.... Must off to work. Take care, all! carrie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:36:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Patton Subject: Backstreet Boys Must DIE!!!! Them first, and then the Spice Girls. Let them be sacrificed on the altar of factory mass produced Pop, for they are the epitome (wow, big word) of all that is sick and evil with the music industry. Which brings me to the next point: are the Boys selling out? My natural response is no. I think they got caught up in the hassles and pressures of being the flavor of the month. I mean, before Whatever & Ever Amen, what truly decent CDs had come out at that time? (Of course, I'm asking a temporal question when last week is fuzzy for me, but never mind all that. ;> ) People started listening to them because eMpTyV needed something to feed the masses, and someone on there (I believe Matt Pinfield, 'cause he's the only one with real musical taste) recognized good music, and put on Battle of Who Could Care Less. Anyway, as it has been said before, we just have to let the wave of popularity die down, have faith in the musical genius you know is there, and wait for Fear of Pop. So speaks the head of the Cult of Folds. ;) ERIC _______________________________________________________________________________ "Fate has kneecaps, too." -EBP _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:38:14 -0400 From: "Lyons, Anne" Subject: Drink up one more time... And I'll make you mine Keep you apart Deep in my heart Separate from the rest Where I like you the best... Hey all! Courtney! Could we have been separated at birth? I was laughing my ass off at your post! Anyway -- we'll have to get together and chat at the Spice Girls mass suicide. I've already gotten my purple sequined robe and my platform Adidas -- and if you haven't already bought your pudding, I'll even share mine with you! I agree -- sick as it might make me, I actually enjoy the Spice Girls for what they are... And while I'm not exactly into them, I understand the appeal of the Backstreet Boys. Hey, how can I not? I was a fan of "Ronny, Bobby, Ricky and Mike" and Menudo and Duran Duran. C'mon! What can I say? I was 13 and female... isn't it a rite of passage to be into some pop group? But I digress... Getting back to the Courtney Connection -- I was flipping back and forth between Behind the Music: 54 and Buffy and NewsRadio and Dawson's Creek and Spin City and Madonna and The Real world and The Weather Channel and the Ten O'Clock news... (I am a veritable clicker pig.). So when you mentioned both 54 and Madonna... it was like kismet -- or maybe not really. *grin* The Sabrina Album: Frankly, I think it frightens me more that people who buy BeFeF also buy Nancy Sinatra. Now remember... that's not Frank Sinatra... that'd be cool. But *Nancy* Sinatra??? As to having a track on Sabrina as the definition of "selling out" -- I'm thinking that this is not the case at all. Y'see, my completely uneducated, unfounded opinion is that it is Sony's job to sell Ben Folds Five as best as they can. They can achieve that goal by putting their songs in as many forums as possible. I'm not sure, but I would guess that Ben is not standing around going... "Day-amn! Those pre-teenage girls sure are fickle! Wasn't Brick enough for them? Well... no use crying over spilt milk (or mercurial prepubescent girls)! The real question... is how do I woo them back? I know! Let's cut a track for the upcoming "Sabrina, The Teenage Witch" -- pre-teens love that ABC Friday night lineup!" On the other hand... I think that is *exactly* what the Sony execs are thinking. Anyway, if the BFF's new album has 14 repackaged versions of Brick... then, and only then should we start the discussion about selling out. But that is just my cent-and-a-half! BENcon '98 -- Barbie... I think we could fit in another BENcon'98 -- we'll just name it after the city. So it'll be just like Networld + Interop... There's N+I Atlanta '98 and N+I Paris '98 and N+I Tokyo '98... So we'll have BENcon Chicago '98... and maybe BENcon Chapel Hill '98 -- as long as this time we have t-shirts, dammit! = ) It sounds like we'll have hookups for the RV anyway... thanks to San and Em! Sandi: You saw the one and only shot- in- the- back- shopliftin'- sneakers- artist- formerly- known- as- Ol'- Dirty- Bastard- but- now- strangely- enough- goes- by- Big- Baby- Jesus all by your lonesome? Damn, girl! *grin* And finally: Jordan... thanks for the laugh! You don't have to feel bad about not trusting the milkman... he could be satan's lackey! = ) Welp. Later, all! - -Anne People that you've been before That you don't want around anymore They push and shove and won't bend to your will... I'll keep them still. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:06:17 -0700 From: "Kamp, Marcus S" Subject: FW: Ben Fold Five fan wins big Fame, fame, fame, fame, fame! "Kamp is such an exceptional drummer!" Tee-hee...although I must interject that the actual quote from the judge was "love that drummer!" > ---------- > From: Susan Park[SMTP:maven@jetcity.com] > Reply To: maven@jetcity.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 5:38 PM > To: armchair@maillist.il.fontys.nl > Cc: Kamp, Marcus S > Subject: Ben Fold Five fan wins big > > Ben Folds Five fan, Marcus Kamp, of Kenmore, Washington, won third > place with his band, Sinforosa, in the Battle of the Bands contest in > Seattle on August 8. The B.O.B. was part of the 56th annual Lake City > Pioneer Days Festival sponsored in part by the Jet City Maven, a > community newspaper serving North Seattle. > > Kamp first found out about the B.O.B through a contact he met on the > BF5 mailing list. Maven publisher, Susan Park, had emailed a call to > all Seattle area readers to find out if anyone was going to a BF5 > concert at DV8 last winter. Kamp had responded and the two had begun > conversing via email. Kamp sent out emails to Park announcing gigs for > his band, "Sinforosa." > > When Park mailed out entries for the B.O.B, she included "Sinforosa" > on the list. Kamp entered his band with their new one-song C.D. demo, > titled "hypnopotion." Kamp plays percussion. > > Sinforosa placed seventh out of thirty-three entrants, placing them on > the "alternates" list. When the Portland based band, The Daylights, > dropped out because their drummer quit, Sinforosa was substituted. > > Sinforosa won third place out of six competing bands, primarily > because of good stage presence. Judge James Bush of the Seattle Weekly > said he chose Sinforosa because Kamp is such an exceptional drummer. > Stranger writer and judge, Steve Humphrey, said he chose them because > their lead singer, Traci Nemeth, is a "cutie-patootie." > > Winning first place in the B.O.B. was Pint O' Guiness, a celtic-punk > band based in Fircrest, Washington. Superblue, a rock blues band out > of Ballard, placed second. > > Sinforosa beat out three bands, all based in Seattle: Ripple, a rock > band based in Seattle; Fiddlers Three, an acoustic pop band; and The > Terriers, a novelty rock band. > > Playing drums for the Terriers was Chris Ballew of the now defunct > Seattle band, The Presidents of the United States. Bellew listed > himself under the pseudonym, "Crimson Yellow #3." > > Ironically, two members of Sinforosa have played for the Terriers. > Kamp has sat in on keyboards and bass player, Derek Brown, was > formerly of the band. > > http://www.jetcity.com/~maven > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:24:50 -0700 From: "Kamp, Marcus S" Subject: Words of Wisdom...Or Would That Be "Wisdrum"? Markus's Advice pt. 201: If you snoop around for an email address of a member of the opposite sex that strikes you smitten, make sure you've got the right name! If you get a wrong name & e-flirt w/them, thinking they are the most amazing wo/man on the planet, you might be disappointed when you meet a normal, non-most-amazing wo/man...then again, you might not! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:11:19 -0400 From: Sean Kiely Subject: Sabrina the Teengae Witchie Woman Sountracks = Exposure = Sold Albums = Money Regardless of whether a few fans like us think they're selling out, they still gotta make some money, and dumb old soundtracks are one way to do it. Although I think they mentioned they don't plan on writing songs specifically for soundtracks, so I am pleased. Plus, if people are buying that album for the Backstreet boys, I doubt they'll have any use for a track from BFF. sean (the real one) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:08:02 -0700 From: "Emily Brown" Subject: Money makin', money, money makin' For Jessica and Anoop -- Crazy thing...the Beastie Boys are in Chicago! And added *bonus*, well, besides the sweet press passes I scored (don't mean to gloat, but gee, that rocks), Mix Master Mike, Money Mark and DJ Koala area playing a midnight show at the Metro after the *big* show at the Rosemont...and my *source* (he, he) tells me that Super Disco Breakin' boys AND Tribe Called Quest are gonna be making some guest appearances. So, if anyone's in the area, and interested, I would beat it on up to the Metro. Kristin - Calvin and I were watching HRL on Friday when she came to visit, and it was hard *not* to notice the crispy crease...I wonder if he pulled a Seinfeld and waited until he went on to put his pants on so as not to ruin the crease...hangin' around backstage in his shorts...makes me sorta laugh. Anne - You quoted my favorite Elliott Smith song! I knew there was a reason you ruled... ;) Courtney - Did you see the *live* "Gambler" performance on the Madonnarama? Seriously inspiring... Sandi - Everything doesn't have to be a soap opera...oh, god. Everyone else - Take just a moment out of your day and sit quietly by an airy window and look out serenely and think of Calvin just rockin' and be sooooo jealous. Pina Colada lunch here I come! Em get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:44:11 EDT From: EMALINE84@aol.com Subject: Hello Nasty I like the Beastie Boys a lot. But not as much as Ben Folds Five ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:52:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Anoop Ranganath Subject: Re: Poona! My apologies. Poona...hmmm...well, Anoop is an Indian name (dots not feathers) and oddly enough, it so happens that Poona is a small city in India. As for a rap loop. Then again, when I give my name over the phone, the say "a loop?", and I'll have to correct them. Boy, fascinating name stuff. Speaking of names, do you guys know the background of your names. I'm sure a good bit of them are biblical, but I bet a bunch of you have interesting stories behind your names. I'll kick it off. All Indian names are Sanskrit, and they all mean something. My name is particularly flattering/arrogant. It means, "the uncomparable one." My little brother's name is a LOT cooler, IMO. His name is "Neel Kiran" (first and middle name) and it means "Blue Ray of Light." (Sorry, Courtney, nothing to do with Madonna). What about you guys, I know a certain young girl named Kate out on the RF is going to have a pretty neat story to tell about where she got her name. Boy oh boy, I'm not tired of the same old songs, but I could DEFINITELY use some change. I've got all of these MP3s from Chad Sarles site, but that still doesn't make up for actual new material. It got to the point where I decided that it was unhealthy to keep listening to the same CDs, so I went out and bought a few more. The new Liz Phair, "whitechocolatespaceegg" gets my seal of approval. This girl has mellowed out a LOT. Anyways, back to doing nothing, have to make my way back to college in a week and a half, and my job ended last week. For that ten weeks of mind-numbing physics research, all I could think about was going home and sitting around and doing nothing. And now that I'm here, I'm bored off my ass. Talk about the grass being greener. Poona ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:28:00 -0700 From: "Emily Brown" Subject: I feel like Sandi So, I'm wasted. It was no $.10 beer night, but it was some kind of cocktail lunch. We think they slipped us some kind of Quaalude-colada or something because...man. Hey, maybe I'll get fired... So, it's not a patented Sandi drunken post and I would never want that sort of responsiblity but it is an Emily in her last few days at work drunk off her ass at her desk post. I'm *so* professional. Whoo... It's a collectible. get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:52:45 -0400 From: Dan Cohen Subject: SEX! Now that I've got your attention, read this post... Blah. Sorry if y'all were expecting something more exciting, but considering the fact that I just read a spam entitled "Outrageous! Her chest is outrageous!" for the third straight day, I feel vengeful toward email in general...OK I'm better. Hmm...let's see... I had an interesting last 24 hours. I bought a snazzo shirt at the mall but, alas, the cashier left the security doohickey on the back. $40, grrr. I have to go back like an idiot and get it taken off since dynamite can't saw through those. I also got "Hello Nasty" last night. Oh damn. "Three MC's and One DJ" is hilarious and the whole CD is great. I need to clear out my bedroom floor and get breakin'. I thought the CD would be more political because of the Tibet thing; there are some references but it's still very ol' skool Beastie-ish. At work, I find out I get to be suspended 30 feet over the warehouse floor to run RJ-45 cabling to the back because, in one week, I have risen from janitor to network engineer! I'm in charge of not only purchasing the equipment, but also installing it, configuring it, and doing the web site. Then I get to teach all the 3.11 users how to run 98. Joy of joys. Oh yes...this is for all the IRC people...if you remember that girl I was "stalking" two weeks ago, she sent me her senior picture and she has somehow become amazingly attractive. Do NOT ask me. She's coming down again next week and we're going to see "Saving Private Ryan". Not quite the date movie of choice, but it's damn cool....see this movie by the way. I must go now and mess with the people at the mall. Hope I remember my receipt. - -Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:23:48 EDT From: Eriklyons1@aol.com Subject: Sweet Mother of Jesus.....!!!! ...give it up for channel surfing. Please stand by for absolutely no Bentent. BUT, RF-tent to the max. Label the FL number #2 member of the RF to see Court-NAY, our beloved vegasbaby. However, not in person. Oh yeah baby, I caught the marvelous wonder we know as Courtney on MY GENERATION this evening. I could be wrong. As long as she was wearing a black sweater, black pants, blond hair, and playing for 1995 against 1984. Then I am on the money. And, I am SO money (right Anne?). Now I can die. - -FL, who asks again, please quit with the one or two line posts. Thanks a bundle. And a bushel. And, what the hell, a peck, and a hug around the neck, and a barrel and a heap, and I'm talkin' in my sleep about you....about you???...about you...my heart's a leapin', I'm havin' trouble sleepin'....cause.....(see the beginning) God I need help. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 02:09:45 -0500 From: john_oc@juno.com Subject: Can't stop myself from saying this... Man...I've seen the boys like 8 times now...that is probably not even close to the most and I do not say it that way...but as we all know they are great live. The following is a ranking of the best live performances I have ever personally been in attendance for. NOTE** If you do not care about my personal opinion, please hit your page down key until this note is finished. Thank you for not caring. Here we go...in order of worst(still awesome mind you) to best...1-10... 10. Grant Lee Buffalo - Copperopolis tour 97. Odeon, Cleveland. The show was all request...if he heard you he played the song. This went on for 2 hours. Even played Arousing Thunder twice because it was sooo good. After wrapping the song for the first time, some one in the first row(row one of 3...there were only like 40 people there) said that rocked, play it again and they did. It was even better the second time... 9. The Tragically Hip. Detroit. Have you heard the live album(it's at Music Boulevard). This is the show that was taped. Complete rock. The Hip jam like it's never been done before and it's all preserved in perfect audio on CD. Beautiful. These Canadian boys know how to rock. Take the Counting Crows brilliant 10 spot appearance and multiply it by 10 and then you can begin to understand the brilliance of this band...this could easily be #1 on a different day. 8. Pulsars - Grog Shop, Cleveland. This band rules...if you've heard YumYum or Aluminium Group, then you know what they sound like...Dave Trumphio of Pulsars produces those bands and his influence reigns supreme. Got to take Dave Trumphio and his brother/drummer Harry out for tacos afterwards!!!! 7. Ben Folds Five - WAEA tour 97. Bogarts, Cincinnati. Rockin show. It's BFF. Enuf said. 6. Modest Mouse - fall 98. Speakin' Tongues, Cleveland. If you ever get the chance to see these post-rock masters live...do it. They rule. If I had to drive across the country, I would only listen to Modest Mouse. The beats, the guitars, the drums...everything you could want from a perfect driving record...the bands music flows like scenery. 5. Counting Crows - Recovering the Satellites tour. Polaris Ampitheatre, Columbus. Even a huge outdoor venue couldn't ruin this experience. Wow. So underrated by the general public. 4. Ben Folds Five - Ypsilanti, Mi. Great show, in the EMU Concert hall. Great sound, and I got to talk to Ben during the show for about a minute and a half about the new Flaming Lips album...during the encore in case you were there and remember. 3. Flaming Lips - Live in London...parking lot experiments...spring 98. WOW. This was so hard not to put #1. 20 stacks. Each playing a different tape. The 20 tapes together form a song...not a song a freaking post-symphony. Sheer bliss. The Flaming Lips are brilliant. 2. Radiohead. OK Computer tour. Lakewood Civic Auditorium, Lakewood Ohio. Don't let the Civic part mislead you. This venue is a freaking HS auditorium. And it ruled for a Radiohead show. Small. Loud. Radiohead. WONDERFUL!!!! I couldn't form complete sentences for days after the show. Still can't now. 1. Sonic Youth. Spring 98. Palace Theatre, Detroit. This show was absolutely brilliant. Mostly material off the new album except for Death Valley 69 and two songs from their instrumental EP's(Stil, Anagrama), but still amazing. The venue was perfect. It was an old Jazz venue. The place wher Ella Fitzgerald has played so many times. It has lots of tables...a parque dance floor, a classy bar, chandeliers, velour carpeting, freakin beautiful. Ella on the PA before the show...what better mood to be in before Sonic Youth than a Jazz mood? There is none. The show left me speechless for the entire ride home(no I wasn't alone). That's it. I have also seen Spiritualized too...they rocked...oh well. If you disagree wholeheartedly or think you have found a musical soulmate, don't hesitate to drop me a line. Always love to talk music with complete strangers. Adieu. John "Close your eyes and you'll see nothing at all or maybe it's everything at once." --Issac Brock, Modest Mouse _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of The Rockford Files V1 #212 *********************************