From: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org (The Rockford Files) To: rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Subject: The Rockford Files V1 #146 Reply-To: rockford-files@smoe.org Sender: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-rockford-files-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk The Rockford Files Sunday, June 7 1998 Volume 01 : Number 146 Today's Filings: ----------------- the surreal transition from twilight to dawn..... My Generation d'oh! FL--BUSTED! Small bits and pieces... long, etc. Erik... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 04:25:10 EDT From: F2G2@aol.com Subject: the surreal transition from twilight to dawn..... is what it feels like coming back over here. man, some people must have an awfully hard time w/underwear bunching. i've been trying to explain to people for a day and a half about jokes and humor and how, by reacting with such animosity, they're merely falling for the bait and making themselves look foolish by doing so. "some people call it a kaiser blade. i call it a slingblade, mmmm-hmmm." anyhow..... markus described the militia fiasco that i feel utterly responsible for (it's a good thing scott has the conscience in our little family.) perfectly by saying it's very kaufmannesque. and i've been trying to teach big brad! how to argue w/out reducing it to a name-calling match. he's getting condescention pretty well down.......make sure you compliment him on his quick learning. hannah was right too, about the evil ape chest-thumping thing. smile. jgreen: sign your name to your post, dammit. (i say that because i prefer to send a comment to you as a human, not a initial or nickname. so i'm picky.) anyhow......it doesn't go against the purpose of the rf, i believe, because: we aren't mean HERE. we all came from the ma geological epochs ago, mostly w/heavy hearts and other melodramatic phrases. but the armchair was loaded with flame-wars when we were active members there, even in the pre-rf epoch. in many cases WE were the people who attempted to be the voices of reason there. y-100. how long was the show? we from the land of cleve only got 40 minutes......if that. "anne is a gothic little nun! anne is a--oh, uh........sorry." fl: there was nub rubbin and i wasn't invited? drop me a note.....i want to tell you about the bitchin homebrew mon ami jason and i concocted. it's probably floating at around %7 per volume......but you'd never know it to taste. mmmmm. did i have bentent? matthew "i reckon i aim to kill you with it.....mmmmhmmmm." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 02:16:07 PDT From: "Courtney Knopf" Subject: My Generation I must ahve missed that "My Generation" thread a while back....but hoo boy..do I have something to say about it. In fact, not only do i have something to say about it, I was a CONTESTANT on it. Oh yes, the perks of living in L.A. (Scott, you listening?) One day I was at the Virgin Megastore on Sunset..and was taking the "Great Expectations" soundtrack to my freind (who is a giant Tori Amos freak and had to buiy it). And he's talking to this guy with a clip board. Clip Board Boy asks me if I know a lot about music. To which I answer "Uh...yeah." (sometimes i can be SO SO articulate). And he says, "well, I'm with a gameshow on VH1 called My Generation..would you like to audition to be a contestant?" "Oh sure!" So off I went. I was in the MTV building in Santa Monica (which is much more entertaining than the one in NYC, let me tell you--they've got an Airstream trailer in their lobby!). We filled out tests to see what we knew about our varios decades of music trivia, and having made the first cut, we went on to play a bunch of sample rounds. Sample rounds which were conducted but the oh-so-pleasing-to-the-eyes Contestant coordinator, Marty. Marty sure was sassy. and Mrrrroow! quite the hottie too. So we finish with the test rounds and they say they'll call us. I was pretty "whatever" about it. But a week later I got THE CALL (as Oprah would say..well if THE CALL was from Steven Spielberg, but anyway..) from the super-perky Robyn to tell me that I was chosen to be on, yadda yadda yadda.... Game day: I get to the studios and meet my partner Adam and our opponents Robert and Carol (we were '95 vs. '84). We all bonded really well. Adam and I were SOOOOOOOO much alike, it was freaky.... almost like that Seinfeld episode where he meets Janeane Garofalo and realized she's the female Jerry? Like that. but without the marriage proposals. First of all, he brought up BFF before I did!* And we were bouncing mopvie quotes off eachother without missing a beat. anyhoo...the computer that generates that virtual sets of theirs CRASHED adn we did not tape that day. But VH1 did pay for our lunch and hell, another day of staring at Marty was good for the soul. Game Day, Take 2: from that day, we were the only team who stayed together through teh rescheduling. so that was cool. by this time we were old hands at the game adn teh staff and we could even joke with the producers about "black saturday" (which is what they referred to the computer crash as). So we did some mroe prep rounds, and practiced giving abnd guessing for the Time Warp part. Then they took us to make-up and then we went onto the set. Let me tell you it is GOOD to be a major network. We had endless bottles of water, make up people who ensured ther was no shine on our faces and people to mic us and stuff. So we played. Adam and I lost. sadly. But only by one question in the speed round. Though we both biffed a couple in the earlier rounds (Okay, so *I* thought the "Friends" theme went to #1 on the charts. apparently I was WRONG) But we did get some lovely parting gifts. those Clip Art pens you see at the end of the show (i got 3 of those), a set of his n' hers watches and 10 Rhino Records CDs of our choice. and THEN since we had to be there that one day and didn't tape, we got 5 MORE for the inconvenience. And if the show gets picked up for anotehr season, the producer said he wanted Adam and I to come back again because apparently it's been hard to find good 90's people to play. Meanwhile my episode has been run 6 times and I have STILL not seen it. So if you ever see the one with a blonde girl named Courtney playing '95 with a tall sandy haired guy as her partner....that's us. Watch as I lose. woohoo! Actually, if any of you have the tape of BFF when they were on Keenen, you can see me in that too. I'm dead center with a short sleeved blue shirt over a white tank top.** Coincidentally enough, the day Janet and daniel and I went to that taping, I ran into Robyn from My generation! She was doing more work on that show too. totally random. Man hollywood is a small town. ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "Ted, that's a Rolls Royce!" "Ted, that's the Prom Queen!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 02:19:37 PDT From: "Courtney Knopf" Subject: d'oh! Whoopsie! I forgot to add my asterix explanations.... *Almost plausible Bentent **More pseudo Bentent ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "Did you say cherry or coke slushee?" "I didn't. Cherry." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:21:55 -0400 From: spencerc@usit.net (Spencer Corden) Subject: FL--BUSTED! On the stand, under oath our FL wrote: <> Read: I get high. A lot. Erik, that reminds me. You still owe me that quarter bag from last week. You smokin' my shit? ;-) Puff, puff, GIVE! You're fuckin' up the rotation! Finally, I can now truly say it---I'm goin' to DISNEYWORLD!!!! Spencer ============================ "Ignored problems won't go away, but ignored people will." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:07:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Anne Lyons Subject: Small bits and pieces... Hey all! Welcome JGreen and the rest of the newbies! (JGreen -- I'd use your name, but you didn't sign one...). As to "name -calling" on the MA... I must say that I never have and probably never will. And if I look back at the other messages from others on the RF... I don't think they did either. Of course, we've been called GAGs and geezers and egotistical maniacs and lots of other very unflattering things. Not that I am going to get in a tizzy and perhaps knock over my walker, spilling my evenings meds from that cunning little paper cup... or worse, think that perhaps I'm not really worthy... forcing some of the air out of my head, n'kay, so that I resemble the south Park Elementary Guidance Counselor after he's loosened his tie, n'kay? But I digress... So no, I'm not interested in namecalling. The MAss assault, as I called it, was a fun term meaning the fact that we all wrote on the same day. On this list... you never have to explain yourself. The worst that ever happens is that people ignore you. So again... welcome! Dreams: I think I forgot to interpret a dream from a bit back... and since I am at home right now (meaning, away from my RF archive), I can;t remember whose dream it was. But it was the elevator dream. Basically, whoever had that dream... you are pretty much right on with your own interpretation. i beleive you said you had a new opportunity, right? Well... the getting stuck as you go up is your fear that this opportunity is not going to be as great as it seems right now. Which is a silly fear when you come right down to it. Better to expect the best and if it is not perfect... get as much out of it as you can! Especially because the fear is not that you won't be good enough (that would be you breaking the elevator yourself) -- it's that there is something outside of you that is stopping the experience from being the best it can be. The jumping off the elevator is you already figuring out how to make the best of the situation... so it certainly sounds like no worries! Or of course, it could have been a pesto-induced dream. Scott: Hmmmm... Sinforosa turns into Green Day? Perhaps it is a premonition dream wherein Sinforosa is just about to get their big break? But that is interesting that you dreamed about them at all. Next time you do... pick me up a Markus doll, wouldja? Courtney: How interesting! See... I had the equal and opposite reaction to Carson & JLH... y'see... I kinda like JLH, whereas I can't stand Carson (although I like him better than Jessie!). But I digress... The dream is just an MTV induced dream... nothing to be interpreted there, unfortunately. Actually, i ahd one myself that Jessie answered an e-mail message of mine to MTV askig them to play more Ben Folds Five (whhc I actually did do). But Jessie made fun of me for using big words in my message. Of course, this is obviously a dream about the MA... Sandi: Happy to see that you have gotten to your bluegrass home with no problems! Yeah... the yoga thing kicked my ass as well! Later all! Have a nice weekend! - -Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:36:26 -0500 (CDT) From: LaRubia@bigfoot.com (Carrie) Subject: long, etc. Her Sultraness wrote: >They reviewed Semisonic's new album...interestingly enough there was a >reference made to the sound of a certain "quintet" we've all been so >fond of these past few years. It made me barf. Lemme explain. Alternative music, and I think most Fjordlians will agree, is just about dead. You can pretty much lump everything like Tonic and all that crap into one big steaming pile for radio play. People who break out of that mold, like BFF, or Soul Coughing, or the Squirrel Nut Zippers are what we have to look to now for anything decent. So alternative music is left to die with the knife firmly in place. So what happens when a band like Semisonic comes along that DOESN'T abandon alternative music, but just DOES it better than anyone else? According to this reviewer, if the flock is sick except for one sweet lamb, we chop its head off too. I don't think he listened to the album. Lyrically, it doesn't hold up to "Great Divide", but sonically and musically, it did things that really wowed me. As far as his "plagiarism" accusation, Dan Wilson is quoted as saying that the perfect song is one that sounds like something you've heard before, but never have. That's why they're so damn likable, but you really can't put a name on what you imagine the influence to be without making yourself look like an ass. By the way, Hannah, you rule my planet. Thank you SO much for the paper and music!!! I ... love you ... deeply. Say hi to Dan and the boys this weekend -- tell them I'll be the one at the Beaumont Club who has wet her pants getting to see them again after waiting TWO YEARS. Marcus wrote: >They'll be sorry when I'm big, yes they will, yes they will! Oh, you think you're so big. JGreen wrote: >Secondly, by sending >hate mail to the Armchair. aren't you going against the very nature of what >this list was supposed to be about? By this, I mean NOT BICKERING. Thank you. That's kinda my feeling and why I hadn't done the same. I think what quinnt was requesting is that, if we get back on there, to be a positive influence. I've found that you can't blame dumb jerkovs for being dumb, but you CAN help them want not to be dumb anymore. This isn't to piss you guys off. I don't care what YOU do. I just... I dunno. Shara (of Rock 'N' Roll High School) said: >i will rent it this weekend if i end up >getting together with a bunch of friends from school at somebody's house & say, >hey, this cool girl thinks our school is like this. Warning: It's REALLY bad. REALLY REALLY bad. Laughably so, though. You'll get a kick out of it. Scottyboy Schneider wrote: >but how about this-- I had a SINFOROSA dream last night. Dude. That was awesome. I think I had a Sinforosa dream once, but um. yeah. Green Day rules. :-) Speaking of the Sinfo-band -- Marcus? When's the approximate release date of the music-scene-altering, mind-bendingly awesome FIRST CD? Everytime I listen to that tape that damnably only has four songs on it, I want to hear more!! Hannah-bo-banna, not-from-Montana wrote: >I >used to occasionally just pause what I was doing and focus on Ben for a song >when I had these CDs on, but now I've got 'em so memorized that I really >don't do it much. I totally know what you're saying. I lose appreciation sometimes just because, well... if I'm listening to them, I'm usually singing. Loudly. Then I started dating this guy near the end of school who is a BFFan in the making. Anyhow, he'd listened to WAEA a bit before because a suitemate had it. We were listening to it once, and he said, "Oh God. Evaporated. We have to stop it now." I was like, "Why? It's a great song!" "You don't understand, Carrie. I'd have to go shoot myself." I'd totally forgotten how emotionally involving that song was when I first understood it for what it was. Wow. I should listen to WAEA again. I often really listen to the self-titled, but... yeah. Our dear FL wrote: >We weren't >bored at all with the files. The files are just so right. Oh yes. Ohhhh yes... Uh huh. You know it. Yeah. :-) Have a lovely weekend, all my good peaches.* carrie * - "I can eat a peach for hours." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:11:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Patton Subject: Erik... You may be the list's Daddy, but what I wanna know is who's your Elder God? Come on, say my name! Who's your Elder God? ;) Seriously, about the MAttack. I've actually gotten a couple good responses to it. I mean, only one person wanted to convert, but I had a couple intelligent people reply. Of course, there are the usual "Go fuck off!' e-mails, but hey, if they rubbed the three brains cells they had left to pump that out, I'm not worried about them. Anyway, we definitely got something started. Laters all! ERIC _______________________________________________________________________________ "I'm just an ordinary man, living an extrordinary life." -Chris Smith, High Priest of the Church of Unrequited Love _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of The Rockford Files V1 #146 *********************************