From: owner-recycled-bin-digest@smoe.org (recycled-bin-digest) To: recycled-bin-digest@smoe.org Subject: recycled-bin-digest V1 #34 Reply-To: recycled-bin@smoe.org Sender: owner-recycled-bin-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-recycled-bin-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "recycled-bin-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. recycled-bin-digest Thursday, May 29 1997 Volume 01 : Number 034 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: GR: References [Josh Nadler ] Re: GR: References ["Kevin Chan" ] Re: GR: References [Josh Nadler ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 13:50:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Josh Nadler Subject: Re: GR: References > 1. How do most people view the quality of Garbage's lyrics...I think they > are only average...maybe it's cos they decide to focus on love instead of > something like society's ills...btw, I consider great lyrics like something > the Manic Street Preachers , Suede or Pulp have done... I'd have to agree that Garbage is about average (well, just above average). I think you can often tell when lyrics are just there because a decent piece of music is written. As a fan, I appreciate when a band writes lyrics that mean something to them, me (as a listener) or both. I don't really know any of the bands you mentioned so I'll mention my own great lyricists. As far as great lyrics go, I consider Tool to be on of the top writers. Fiona Apple is also a great lyricist and on the average Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson write very good lyrics. > 2. Just how important is Garbage to this "bridging" of rock/alternative > rock & electronic music...is it just me or do I not hear that much of an > electronice influence in Garbage's music ? boy...am I gonna get torn apart > on that comment...hehehehe... I think the bridge was more importent for me personally than it was for the industry. It led me in a direction that I like more and more. Although I'm finding that really good Electronic/Techno is rarer than really good rock, R&B, metal or rap. A lot of electronic bands make music ideal for clubs and dancing but is sometimes hard to listen to on a home stereo. Another band that may be bridging the electronic gap is THe Smashing Pumpkins with Eye (from the Lost Highway SDTK) and their new song from the new Batman movie. Anyways, I think there is a fairly strong sense of electronic in Garbage, but it comes in a different form from the usual electronic. Often electronic music provides a dance beat, but Garbage uses the electronic samplings to create a rock beat. I think that method works really well. Well, that's just my humble opinion... Josh N }|-)> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:13:21 -0400 From: "Kevin Chan" Subject: Re: GR: References > From: Josh Nadler > To: ReCyClEd BiN > Subject: Re: GR: References > Date: 28 May 1997 15:50 > > > 2. Just how important is Garbage to this "bridging" of rock/alternative > > rock & electronic music...is it just me or do I not hear that much of an > > electronice influence in Garbage's music ? boy...am I gonna get torn apart > > on that comment...hehehehe... > > I think the bridge was more importent for me personally than it was for > the industry. It led me in a direction that I like more and more. > Although I'm finding that really good Electronic/Techno is rarer than > really good rock, R&B, metal or rap. A lot of electronic bands make music > ideal for clubs and dancing but is sometimes hard to listen to on a home > stereo. Another band that may be bridging the electronic gap is > THe Smashing Pumpkins with Eye (from the Lost Highway SDTK) and > their new song from the new Batman movie. Anyways, I think there is a > fairly strong sense of electronic in Garbage, but it comes in a different > form from the usual electronic. Often electronic music provides a dance > beat, but Garbage uses the electronic samplings to create a rock beat. I > think that method works really well. > Yeah, I seem to notice that people who weren't really into electronic music before listening to Garbage tend to have Garbage as more of a "bridgemaker". Perhaps, this is why Garbage is seen as such an important band in this aspect, as many Americans are still yet be to be exposed to Electronica, besides maybe hearing Firestarter like twice. I remember once reading a post on Trash Talk about someone saying that Garbage was the most "techno" music they had ever heard...when I read the post I thought that observation was insane, but now I think it's rather valid...I have always liked electronic music(even if it was 2 Unlimited two years ago...oh shut up & stop laughing), so thats probably why I don't feel Garbage is that important to bridging the gap...maybe to the masses it is... As for the Smashing Pumpkins, yeah I would have to agree that they are certainly bridging the gap too, with more of an obvious electronic influence in Eye than opposed to Stroke of Luck... Kevin Chan LuvYaMira@worldnet.att.net http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6273/index.html Milhouse or Delicious on IRC GO HABS ! COME ON YOU REDS ! NP: "Tell it to the Kids" by Bis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:04:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Josh Nadler Subject: Re: GR: References I kind of feel a little sorry for the people who've only heard Firestarter because I don't really think it is very good at all. The song has the pontential to kick a lot of ass, and it's right on the edge of doing so. It just never leaps off that edge. It's too bad really. Prodigy could be a lot better than they are. Josh N }|-)> ------------------------------ End of recycled-bin-digest V1 #34 *********************************