From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V12 #38 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, May 20 2007 Volume 12 : Number 038 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [pt] big wheel video competition [e m ] Re: [pt] a little clarification & big wheel video competition [Nadyne Mie] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT) From: e m Subject: [pt] big wheel video competition I am curious to see where this goes as well. I really felt that the taxi ride video contest fell short on so many levels. it did not add up to any more exposure, but of course, now we all have youtube.com which exploded recently and will aid in getting more exposure for both the directors and tori (maybe). i dunno if it is a first for an artist, but bjork is doing the same thing with her second single, but i think it is more open ended - no "green screen challenge" as stephen colbert puts it. maybe we should have colbert --- no wait!! there was a band that did that, and he put them on the show & had a running bit for weeks on how they stole his idea....anyone know what band did the green screen performance thing? but still stephen colbert might make another bit of it as yet another artist "steals his thunder". :D Pete Lambert wrote: Cyndi - relax! I'm certain that there is not an angry mob of caton-ites rampaging in your direction at this moment. i just can't picture richard brandishing a pitchfork for one thing (unless understandably provoked by an unacceptably poor sound system, perhaps...). This list has had some of the most civilised and thought provoking differences of opinion of any I've ever been on, and long may that continue. Interesting to see on undented.com that a competition has now been launched for fans to create their own videos for Big Wheel, taking it a step further than the one for Taxi Ride (I still cant find the winner on youtube) by having footage of Tori performing against a green screen available to download for inclusion, making it potentially seem totally professional. That part of it is certainly a first as far as I know in the 'fan produced video' field. However, I dont know of any examples of fan produced videos actually making it in to circulation as a record company's approved 'real' promo for a song by any artist - do any of you? Seems odd that they've picked a track that already has a promo too. Mind you, that promo (with the animated photos) has only been seen online (by me) so could be akin to the promo for ASF that came on the Scarlet's Walk bonus DVD, so we could yet see a second round of promotion for Big Wheel I suppose. Why oh why oh why dont the record labels of artists with 'buy it in every format' fan bases make the most of the fact by releasing multiple formats of singles? The solitary format of ASF that was issued in the UK got to #41 in the chart with minimal promotion, I'm sure that if they'd issued the DVD single and a second disk with additional b-sides (FFS "Not David Bowie" was gathering dust at this point, to link in with the other thread) the album would have got a useful boost from a Top 30 single getting a little more airplay... [it's at around this point of my rants like this in the pub that my non-EWF friends' eyes start glazing over, by the way, or they chip in with a question like, "so, did you say she actually lives in england now?"] Pete x # she can flip her hair / i can flip you off - -----Original Message----- From: owner-precious-things@smoe.org [mailto:owner-precious-things@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Cyndi S Crawford Sent: 16 May 2007 16:21 To: precious-things@smoe.org Subject: [pt] a little clarification regarding my comments about Caton's playing and his ego (etc).. lemme just say this much: just because I think he's an egotistical player doesn't necessarily mean that I think he must have been a jerk--it IS possible to be a very nice person, very gracious and friendly to the fans and still be the kind of person who walks onstage and plays like they're the only person that belongs there. (I also COULD be wrong in my assumptions, etc, and if I am, go ahead and tell me why, because I'm not going to dig my feet in and refuse to change my opinion if I'm shown the facts) I'm sure it sounds contradictory, given how most people with an ego act, but it isn't always the case, so I can easily believe that Caton was a very friendly-to-the-fans kind of guy, regardless of how he played while onstage. oh, and Richard: whichever show it was that they opened with Black Dove is the one I'm talking about. :) - -- Cyndi S. Crawford No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 15/05/2007 10:47 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 15/05/2007 10:47 - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 07:09:40 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [pt] a little clarification & big wheel video competition On 5/16/07 5:07 PM, "Pete Lambert" wrote: [snip] > Why oh why oh why dont the record labels of artists with 'buy it in every > format' fan bases make the most of the fact by releasing multiple formats of > singles? I just wish that record labels would go back to delivering singles at all. I don't even dare to hope for multiple versions of the same single. On the other hand, I am annoyed at the multiple versions of the album. There's the standard CD and the limited edition with the DVD. I'm okay with those. But then there's the iTunes version with an exclusive track, and the Borders version with another exclusive track. I'd love to see a 'Big Wheel' single with these two tracks. /nm - -- Nadyne Mielke nadyne@little-blue-world.org Little Blue World http://www.little-blue-world.org/ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V12 #38 *************************************