From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V11 #43 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, July 1 2006 Volume 11 : Number 043 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [pt] details about the rarities box set! [wojbearpig ] Re: [pt] details about the rarities box set! [handal@r2d2.reverse.net (Ri] Re: [pt] Rarities ["Lauren H" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:32:36 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: [pt] details about the rarities box set! also sprach handal@r2d2.reverse.net (Richard Handal): >for sure. I love the first disc's concept to expand LE, the first disc is the one i'm most looking forward to. (i have no high hopes pinned to the star that is "zero point". ;) ) it's been a long time since i've listened to that album. i burned out on it a while ago so it gets spun maybe once or twice a year these days. it's still good, of course. just doesn't call to me like it used to. so i am debating whether or not to put it on before the box comes out. probably would be a good idea to at least refresh my memory about how it originally sounded.... >and to carry on that idea through more albums would have made sense >to me, although if taken to its logical conclusion, that would have made >for too large a set. yes, if such a project was released as a single set. i think they probably could have gotten away with breaking up such a collection into two sets, especially since the more recent records wouldn't need to be given the same treatment so soon as, say, the first three (or maybe four). >I'm intrigued by thinking how the LE era songs may have been remixed. >There's a place about 2:30 into Leather where the piano comes way up in >the mix in a decidedly overt manner. I can see playing around with >decisions such as that, but I also notice the remixed songs tend to be >ones with strings. Do the strings now become more prominent? Why is Take >to the Sky listed with its original title added in parentheses? There's >nothing said about its having been remixed. Is that just a nod to how >she originally wanted it, but was implored (or forced) to change it? Why >not add Somebody Leave the Light On to Mother? Was she happier with that >name change? hopefully, the commentary will shine a light on these and other questions, such as the big ones that people have been asking about the exclusion of songs. i have a feeling though that she'll focus more on the reasons for inclusions rather than the reasons for exclusions. >I find it interesting to see what people were expecting this to be. This >kind of thing often skews toward being a Rorschach test of the person's >wish list. leavened with, in my case anyway, the brutal reality that one will never really get what one really hopes for. ;) >With the release of Piece By Piece we have a fair idea of the variety of >forces at work that shaped Venus. you know, i should finish reading that book sometime.... >None of the contractual/legal nightmare stuff applies this time, not even for soundtrack songs? >and the way the b-sides are included in this set may have helped them >deal with the sonic workarounds they felt would have been needed had >they all been next to one another on the same disc. excellent point! there is a lot of variance in recording quality from b-side to b-side. >Yes, and I've spoken enough with her about reissues to feel I'm not >going out on a limb when I say that "legacy" had no small part in how >these items were chosen. how ... presidential! ;) >I'd like to think the masterpiece that is Boys >for Pele will grow to have its own legacy, outside of only the songs she >included from it here. In some ways, Pele's bigger than her anyhow. yes! i hope that someday bfp gets a similar treatment as little earthquakes is getting on the first disc of this set. >Just finished up a listen to the order of the first disc (although >lacking the remixed versions), and I can attest to how well the flow of >songs works, especially from Gun on. Good deal. good idea! i think i will try that as well as giving the original album its yearly listen soon. >I think one more disc of b-sides would stick a fork in the need for any >further rereleases! i dunno. i think expanded editions of the early records would be a nifty thing. but i agree in principle: 'tis better to focus on the future and continuing creating than spend all your time with these back issues. i don't think we have to worry about that with tori though. she seems pretty intent on always moving forward. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: handal@r2d2.reverse.net (Richard Handal) Subject: Re: [pt] details about the rarities box set! Replying to woj who quoted my post: > >With the release of Piece By Piece we have a fair idea of the variety > >of forces at work that shaped Venus. > > you know, i should finish reading that book sometime.... > > >None of the contractual/legal nightmare stuff applies this time, > > not even for soundtrack songs? No. Other and convoluted legal details apply to those, I'm sure, but when you finish reading Piece By Piece you'll see the end-of-contract scenario with Atlantic that I meant to refer to; and you'll never look upon a round of golf the same way again. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:23:16 -0500 From: "Lauren H" Subject: Re: [pt] Rarities whats this i hear about new music? can someone fill me in on what it is and where to get it... toodles -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Amy Wasnidge" To: precious-things@smoe.org Subject: Re: [pt] Rarities Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:32:38 -0500 > >On 6/28/06, lisa071573@aol.com wrote: > > I'm just excited we get a bit new Tori in 2006 :) I'm a little > > disappointed that To The Fair Motor Maids of Japan, the Michael Stipe > > duet, or Abbey Road aren't included, but alas.... at least we are > > getting Zero Point :) > >I agree. I am quite happy with the sound of the boxset, especially the side >notes from Tori. But I do see what everyone is saying. It does seem >redundant to hear a hundred different versions of the same songs over and >over. It will be nice to hear these as officially released versions. I >just wish it was coming out next week! And hopefully she'll think about >doing a little tour to support the new songs. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V11 #43 *************************************