From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V10 #114 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, June 11 2005 Volume 10 : Number 114 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tori / montreal / august 26th on admission.com [wojizzle forizzle ] Live From The Stables and The Jonathan Ross Show [Amanda Bradley ] tori / baltimore, md / august 24 on ticketmaster [wojizzle forizzle Subject: tori / montreal / august 26th on admission.com Event TORI AMOS Venue CENTRE BELL Date Friday, August 26th, 2005 Time 7:30 PM For more information about : venue location THEATRE DU CENTRE BELL . Groupe Spectacles Gillett presente TORI AMOS www.toriamos.com LE VENDREDI 26 AOUT 2005 `a 19h30 Number of tickets* *You may purchase up to 12 tickets per transaction. If you purchase more than 15 tickets in more than one transaction, we reserve the right to ask you for a written purchase confirmation, and we will contact you by email. Choose category of tickets* [X] Best tickets available [ ] Floor @$55.00CAD [ ] Red Level @$55.00CAD [ ] Club Level (red 200) @$40.00CAD [ ] White Level @$40.00CAD [ ] Grey Level @$40.00CAD [ ] Blue Level @$40.00CAD if you try to buy tickets now, you will get this message: Tickets for the event you requested will be on sale as of June 11th, 2005 at 10:00 AM. Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:59:39 +0100 From: "pete" Subject: Re: UK meet & greet tips? Thanks for the comments guys! It's now kind of 50/50 whether I'll make it to the show tonight early enough to loiter outside, but will do what I can. Thanks also for the organ info Richard. Tori does indeed have the 4 keyboard set up over here too, and I was wondering "why two hammonds?" It's funny, I learned to play on a yamaha when I was a teenager and *loathed* the sounds I just saw as "cheesy" then, as I stumbled my way through the LE music book. If only I could have had an advance copy of the Beekeeper I would've made much better progress! > Pete, I propose CDs-ROM. Whaddya think? :-) CORRECT - but I think we may *just* lay ourselves open to accusations of pedantry! We EsWF can be like that sometimes. To distract myself from a deadline at work yesterday I rattled off this review of the Manchester show (I will go back and do the London Saturday one at some point too, I'd say thats the 'strongest' Ive seen so far actually, in that its the one I'd choose to attend again if I could). Actually this started off as an email to a friend so I veer from the point quite a lot, but thought I'd have a go at describing the waves of feeling the mix of songs at a show can inspire, touch of the memories they evoke etc, as well as the more literal stuff - so pardon my self indulgence and I hope I havent overloaded the digest :o) Not that I'd ever give scores, but I'd say it was a 9/10 show. I think I've dwelt on the negative a bit towards the end, and I dont want to give the impression it was anything other than a fantastic evening, just not QUITE up there with the greatest, for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester Carling Apollo (frocks optional) 5/6/2005 Ok, where *IS* the woman? This must be the longest build up since we all sat on pews at the Union Chapel in 2001 and listened to Massive Attack's Blue Lines all the way through twice. Not that we really mind of course. But couldn't someone pass a note to the PA people? "Tori says you DO all have time to go to the toilet". I got caught with my trousers down during Wampum Prayer here last time, and that's really not something you want to have happen twice. She's on! 1 - O.S. - a little longer, a little stronger every night 2 - little amsterdam - when pele came out, this was one of my least favourite tracks, because it sounded like the kind of music my parents would like. Tori has since then made a point of playing it to me as often as possible. And it's really working for me now, and evidently for her too. A sultry shimmy and all that. 3 - leather - tori mentioned that she always wants to play this song here. It could be entirely my prejudice but I always feel a stronger than usual gender-exploring vibe at her Manc shows (I think she opened with Real Men last time she was here solo),and hoorah for that. I have now given up on the singing audience members and am learning to love them. I would prefer to not be listening to a duet, but I am, so I open myself to their take on it. At least these ones are getting the words right. I think the octagon displays above the piano would make a lovely screen saver. Is that damning with faint praise? I cant decide. 4 - beauty queen / horses - oh wow, my biggest off-the-scale spine tingler of the night and probably my favourite song of the show too. flashback to listening to it for the first time, in the bath at my parents house, thinking "this one's a bit weird to open the new album, but I'm sure the next track will be more conventional" Ha! 5 - long long long slow sultry intro to Liquid Diamonds, Andy (who I'm there with) realises what it is first. Not that I'd view it as a competition of course (must practice listening to intros before we do the Nottingham show). Funny, we were both here in 2001 but didnt know each other. Pity the guy who sat next to me at that show, his mobile went off LOUDLY during Me And A Gun. His reaction was akin to the Wicked Witch of the West in a car wash. Sorry I'm reviewing the wrong concert where was I... So I loved liquid diamonds, not heard it solo before, works really well. 6 - Jamaica Inn! I beat Andy to naming this one. Except suddenly she changes keyboard and its not Jamaica Inn, it's Suede. Never my favourite track on TVAB but still really good, the subtlety of its darkness is accentuated by being solo. Jamaica Inn would have been nice though. Was I imagining it? 7 - Strange - Andy is singing now. It's lucky Jemma is sitting between us ;-) 8 - As the piano bar sign lit up, Tori said "because i'm in manchester..." and a loud mancunian yelled "play morrisey!" which evoked the most words from tori for many a year, though it was mostly a four-lettered lucidity (not at the person who shouted, but about morrisey. although the person who shouted then kept interrupting her again and again and the audience grew restless so he got told to "shut the fk up", which got a cheer. you dont get this level of entertainment at a sarah mclaughlan show). Apparently in Tori's very very early days she was on a TV show that Morrisey was also on (probably BBC2s Later with Jools?) and she passed him in the corridor and said something like "your set was really good" to which he replied something like "and who the fck do you think you are judging ME?". Quite how it is possible to fit such a thorough critique of a man's parentage, endowment, stature, ego, talent, and precise level of intimacy with his mother in to such a well contained epicentre of anglo saxon bellowing, which must have stripped the wallpaper from the venue of the original exchange, is something that I can only marvel at. I suspect Natashya wasn't backstage tonight. Then Tori apologised for being late on stage (lots of people didnt make it to the end without a toilet break, things were on the verge of giving out for me too) which got a little cheer. she said it was because she was practising this song back stage, which she's never played before, and couldnt get it right. When she then launched in to an initially slightly hesitant (in a charming "argh, got to slow this line down, I havent read ahead to see what the next word is" way) version of Oasis's Dont Look Back In Anger, the house was brought down, and she was soaring by the second verse. I caught myself singing along and so am thoroughly hoist by my own petard. 9 - And then "My Favourite things" ("when the bee stings" - do you see?) with a "prrrrr!" that Eartha Kitt would be proud of after "whiskers on kittens". 10 - Winter - Odd, I've no idea why, a memory leaps up while she's playing this of myself aged 18, in my dad's car, lost in the country somewhere, and he's gone in to a pub to ask for directions, and Simon Mayo on Radio 1 gets to number 20-something and its another song by that woman who did the "me and a gun e.p." that I loved. I'd presumed she'd been dumped by her record label when it didnt chart. And so I've uncovered my memory of hearing Winter for the first time! Ah she still knows how to get my waterworks on it seems. She sang a very clear "be proud OF me" in Wolverhampton, but it's back to the usual "be proud'a me" tonight. I expect things like that have Big Reasons. 11 - Carbon - the "orange blobs" projected on to the ceiling during Carbon combine with the performance and it all gets very hypnotic "d o n t l @ @ k a w a y ". 12 - Ribbons Undone. Makes me feel warm and happy for Tori, but still without really *liking* the song that much. God I feel guilty even for typing that! But "From school she comes home..." just rankles, those words just dont want to be in that order in my head. But then I used to be funny about "sleeping beauty trips me with a frown" (not that I'm saying dont be abstract, I love the abstract, just once in a while it'll hit my metalwork rather than my bullseye) so dont listen to me. 13 - Spring Haze - oh I love this song live. From a similar corner of her repotoir as Carbon and Liquid Diamonds in a way, a nebulous-travelling-disconserted-is-everything-oK? kind of corner. she holds a "draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn" for ages with no keyboards at one point, and it's like we're all sitting in a giant bell that's just been rung, its amazing the way she can play with every aspect of the sound of one syllable 14 - The beekeeper - my third time live in a week and i couldnt be less bored, its just beautiful 1st encore 15 - Not The Red Baron - again with the nebulous, and maybe sexuality issues again too (red ribbons+WW1 as AIDS metaphor?). I can still picture the footage of biplanes that was the overhead projection for this on the DDI tour (or have I invented that?). Beautiful and enchanting though i think some were hoping for something more "up". The set list is VERY mellow tonight, isn't it? 16 - Never Seen Blue - we're really on "shuffle play" aren't we? Not that anything's random of course but you know what I mean. After a couple of minutes tori apologises for having "that fcking crazy frog that's at number1" in her throat ['crazy frog' being a mobile phone ringtone that is now number one in the UK singles chart, yes really, croaking Axel F. It has swept europe like nothing since the Black Death, without the redeeming features]. So then she resumes NSB, which is lovely although gets played one-and-a-half-times so is flagging a little by the end. 2nd encore "oh she always does two more", I authoritatively tell Andy and Jemma, as Tori practically dashes back out, seconds after leaving the stage. 17 - sweet the sting - after hearing it with the choir in london it's hard for anything else to compare, and while this is groovy there's a certain shrillness to her voice for some reason (the fcking frog i expect) that stops it from clicking for me. And she's gone! At 11pm on the dot. It being a Sunday I presume there's a curfew in operation? In many ways an odd show in that it certainly soared in places but still had a general tone of not-quite-getting-there in others. It's usually nice when Tori's more chatty, but its by no means essential. However, tonight I did I really, really wish she'd talked more. Just a little. It was so hot in there and we'd all waited so long and we all needed the toilet. The whole atmosphere is just lifted and prepared to plunge back in to the next song more clearly when we've had a touch-base with "tori the human". Perhaps the solo shows benefit from this more than the band ones because, musically, we're so much more intimate with her. Still a fantastic night of course, well worth the 200mile round trip! Looking forward to Nottingham more than ever now... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:38:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda Bradley Subject: Live From The Stables and The Jonathan Ross Show To Both Brian T. and Woj, Thanks for sharing the files from these shows. I really, really loved 'Mother Revolution' solo. This was my first time hearing it this way, and I truly believe it should have made the album in this fashion. Alas, I'm not the multi-millionaire songstress... Peace Out, Amanda ~~She's a girl out working her Trade/and she loses a little each day/to ghetto pimps and presidents/who try and arouse her turquoise serpents~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:26:36 +0200 From: fish Subject: Tori Amos in Zurich on June 29! Hiya I'm new to this mailinglist, maybe I should introduce myself first...uhm what to say? Since this is about music, here's the artists I'm listening too: http://www.dachboden-wg.de/radio/index.php?id=206 http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/stokedfish/ As you can see, it's lots and lots of female vocals! ;-)) However, why did I join this list? I will see Tori Amos in Zurich on June 29! Actually I wanted to go there with a friend but things changed and he cannot attend the concert. So I have one ticket here that I don't need... Location: Kongresshaus Zurich Date: June 29, 20:00 (8pm) Support: Tom McRae Tori Amos - The original sinsuality tour Estrade Seite links (on the left) Reihe 17 (row 17) Platz 126 (seat 126) To be honest, iIt's not the best seat you can get in this concert hall, however, it's a ticket for Tori! The concert is sold out, more infos here: http://www.ticketcorner.com/eventstore/control/requestcard;jsessionid=QXUV1S0C0IXNTQZP23UCFFA?id=645154 (on this page you can also check where exactly this seat is located) I wanted to sell it on ricardo first (I know I could sell it there for a much higher price than what I payed) but that's not my intention...I'd prefer to sell it to someone who is a fan of Tori and maybe could not get a ticket instead of just giving it to a random person on ricardo or ebay! So I just ask what I payed for it, it's 70 CHF (Swiss Francs) - if you are interested, mail be back as fast as you can. The only problem is that I'm a bit late, so I will sell it on ricardo all the same if I don't get any reply till next Wedn. June 15 - it would be foolish not to do so and just let it expire! Btw, I did not find any rules for this mailinglist so I hope this post is okay like this. I'm not here to make money with this ticket, I'd even give it away for a cheaper price than what I actually payed if you're a student and think 70 CHF is too expensive for a concert (I'm a student myself and know how it is with the money...lol) I just want to sell my ticket to a fan of Tori and not some random idiot who deals on ricardo just to make money, that's all... So please message me if you are interested and we can make a deal! And please, message me fast! lol Greetings from sunny Switzerland, Marcel - -- http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/stokedfish/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:46:22 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: tori / baltimore, md / august 24 on ticketmaster Tori Amos Pier Six Concert Pavilion, Baltimore, MD Wed, Aug 24, 2005 07:30 PM US $24.00 - US $47.00 Internet Onsale Info Onsale to General Public: Fri, 07/08/05 10:00 AM EDT CAVALIER PAVILION PIER 6 RAIN OR SHINE/NO LAWN CHR * * * * TORI AMOS * * * * WED AUG 24, 2005 7:30PM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:03:02 -0400 (EDT) From: handal@r2d2.reverse.net (Richard Handal) Subject: Re: UK meet & greet tips? Pete posted a review of Manchester with additional comments: > Thanks also for the organ info Richard. You're welcome. > Tori does indeed have the 4 keyboard set up over here too, and I was > wondering "why two hammonds?" I haven't tried to figure out which sounds she's using on the chord organ in The Beekeeper which aren't available on the B3. That's a bit beyond my ken, I'm afraid. If any organ geeks live among us I'd be interested to know this. Thinking about it briefly, I believe she dwells upon the chord keys on the left, but as to the other sounds she gets out of the main manuals being different than what she could have coaxed out of the B3, I haven't a clue. > > Pete, I propose CDs-ROM. Whaddya think? :-) > > CORRECT - but I think we may *just* lay ourselves open to accusations > of pedantry! We EsWF can be like that sometimes. I'd just remind folks that you're the one who broached this topic. :-) > Manchester Carling Apollo (frocks optional) > 5/6/2005 > > Ok, where *IS* the woman? > > This must be the longest build up since we all sat on pews at the > Union Chapel in 2001 and listened to Massive Attack's Blue Lines all > the way through twice. Not that we really mind of course. But couldn't > someone pass a note to the PA people? "Tori says you DO all have time > to go to the toilet". In Philly I asked Matt Nathanson what was up with him just playing 20 minutes, and he said he was asked to perform 25-minute sets so the long period before she came out would create a high sense of anticipation. Whatever! If they knew what most folks had gone through to get tickets and arrive on time to the venue they'd have a better sense of why this is silly. > I got caught with my trousers down during Wampum Prayer here last > time, and that's really not something you want to have happen twice. Not commenting on that one. > I have now given up on the singing audience members and am learning to > love them. I know that many people in the U.S. idealize the audiences over there. The next time this comes up in conversation I'll remind them you said this. > [Winter] She sang a very clear "be proud OF me" in Wolverhampton, but > it's back to the usual "be proud'a me" tonight. I expect things like > that have Big Reasons. It makes one's head dance with the possibilities, doesn't it? Indeed, the reasons she would do such things as this must be personal ones rather than purely aesthetic and artistic. Thank you for mentioning this, Pete. > And she's gone! At 11pm on the dot. It being a Sunday I presume > there's a curfew in operation? Extra wages for the venue people when she plays past the appointed hour. Over here there are high union penalties for running over. I don't know about the unions over there. Might be that, too. > It's usually nice when Tori's more chatty, but its by no means > essential. However, tonight I did I really, really wish she'd talked > more. Just a little. Each to their own, but I will never understand why even some of the folks who seem to be more seriously oriented than many are to the music hope for more talking from the stage. You'll more likely get a well- woven, seamless narrative of a concert when she speaks less. I'm firm in this belief. I admit there are ways to speak from the stage so that the narrative of the concert is furthered rather than side-tracked, and Tori is darn good at keeping things forward-looking, but overall, everything else being equal, "less talk" means "better show." I think this holds for almost all musicians, and I always strongly encourage my friends who are musicians to shut the hell up onstage and play their music. I find Tori hilarious, but if I wanted a monologue I'd have bought a ticket to a comedy show or something. When heard with an ear prepared to perceive it there's plenty of, as you say, "Tori the human" that comes through loud and clear in the music performance. And I find it to have been more meaningfully delivered that way. Thanks again for this report, Pete. I want to encourage others to write at length about their concerts. Please don't be shy. Despite his protests, Pete didn't deviate much from the show and I am definitely more interested in hearing what happened in the hall than I am in the writer's trip getting there and such, but it's endlessly fascinating to me to hear about the concerts in detail from various perspectives, *including* what was going on in one's head. What a miracle the Internet is to provide the opportunity for this. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V10 #114 **************************************