From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V10 #112 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, June 7 2005 Volume 10 : Number 112 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tori on jonathan ross [Cyndi S Crawford ] Re: Lotta Keyboards (was Re: UK meet & greet tips?) [handal@r2d2.reverse.] Re: UK meet & greet tips? [Beth Winegarner ] Re: tori on live from the stables [wojizzle forizzle ] Re: tori on live from the stables [Brian K Tanaka ] Re: tori on live from the stables [Brian K Tanaka ] tori / portsmouth, va / august 14 on ticketmaster [wojizzle forizzle Subject: Re: tori on jonathan ross >Thanks, woj! You're the best!< I concur! I actually was gonna reply to this with "I love you, woj" but.. ah, what the hell. I LOVE YOU WOJ! ^O^ *tackle-hug* Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford "I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:46:58 -0400 (EDT) From: handal@r2d2.reverse.net (Richard Handal) Subject: Re: Lotta Keyboards (was Re: UK meet & greet tips?) Brian spoke: > Your post, Richard, has saved me the time of trying to find out what > keyboards were on stage this tour. You mean to tell me I wasn't just prattling on at length about things *no* one else cares about? That's excellent news. Thank you for letting me know. > And *then* it went on--apparently not satisfied with being merely > helpful but preferring instead to be massively informative--to save me > the much bigger trouble of trying to find out how they were equipped > plus background information about each instrument. There's much more to be known beyond what I posted and what I know that I *didn't* post. And it's not always easy to come by, either. Even something basic like the model of her piano from the supposedly reliable source of the December 2003 Keyboard magazine article has been wrong. They said she used a model of Boesendorfer that hasn't been manufactured since 1902! What's *that* about? If it was a simple typo, it was a major one. I showed the photo to a local Boesendorfer salesman and he could easily tell what it was. Although I looked up some of the things in that post, mainly for a private message I sent a friend a few weeks ago, most of that stuff was already floating around in my head. I'm no keyboard geek compared to some, but as an interested listener going on nearly fifty years now a lot of information has accumulated. It's hard for me to remind myself enough that not everyone has this much crap wandering around in the space between their ears. When I see published reviews which refer to the Rhodes--one of the most popular keyboard instruments of the last 35 years--as an organ, I think that the reviewer doesn't deserve to be on anyone's payroll writing about music. When I see fans who lack clarity on such things, I am reminded that not everyone has had the kind of musical life that I have, and I want to help them out and to add context and understanding. The pianists who love the Rhodes feel that way because the action gives them expression of a kind they're used to having on their pianos. (I refuse to invoke the damned retronym "acoustic piano" as I also refuse to speak of "silent film." Films were always accompanied by music--live in its earliest days--so I say "pre-talkies." When synchronized sound came in films *became* talky, believe me. I digressed. Sorry.) The Rhodes is an important part of the bloodline of the piano. Because of the action, its keys respond to differences in the speed and pressure of the fingers in an analog fashion as they are applied to them in ways that electronic keyboards--including the MIDI system on the Boesendorfer--try to replicate, but always with something in definition lacking. MIDI is a 128-bit language because of reasons that with current technology are largely gone today, but it's been an industry standard for so many years it'll be a while before it's overtaken by something which allows for greater exactness in the transmission of information in the crucial fingers-to-keyboard-to-sound-producer portion of the information chain that consists of "musician's brain to fingers to keyboard to listeners' ears." http://www.planetoftunes.com/sequence/messages.html When Tori plays her piano at a solo concert we hear the sonic result of an analog transmission through her fingers and the keys in a way that can be compared to the analog storage of sound on grooved discs such as LPs. When we hear her playing her piano during the band concerts, what we hear is the result of the transmission of information coming through her fingers with definition which could be compared to an MP3 with a low bit-rate; we hear the *sampled* *sound* of a piano *as* *triggered* by the MIDI system of the Boesey. For this reason alone the band concerts are not nearly the highly expressive pianistic events that the solo concerts are. They can't be. > Yeesh. Thanks. You're welcome, and thanks for caring and letting me know. You were planning to research this stuff, eh? If you had read most of the interviews and articles in which the instruments were discussed you'd have had a big head start compared with someone who hadn't done that already, but the lifetime of having listened to, discussed, and played music with musicians who live and breathe this stuff would be hard to replicate. > Plus, I always thought your aunt had a Hammond Spinnet, not a Chord > Organ, but now I see I was wrong. I'm hoping to go visit her one day and see her funking out on a Clavinette to Stevie Wonder's Superstition. I'm not holding my breath for that, though. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:45:25 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: Re: UK meet & greet tips? Pete, I think that yours was the best review of a Tori show I've read in years. Heck, that was one of the best digests of PT in a while. :D Beth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:18:55 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: Re: tori on live from the stables tori was on the radio 2 program live from the stables earlier today. she performed "leather", "mother revolution" and, with the house big band, "you belong to me". if you missed the program today, it's archived on the bbc's website for the next week in realaudio at . the direct link for the embedded player-impaired is . i've done the same thing with this as with the jonathan ross appearance: the entire realaudio clip and transcoded mp3s can be downloaded from http://www.smoe.org/woj/tori2005-06-06-BBCRadio2-LiveFromTheStables share the files all you want but please don't publicize the link elsewhere. those of you with the bandwidth and the webspace, feel free to mirror the files as well! enjoy! woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:37:21 -0700 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: tori on live from the stables On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:18:55PM -0400, wojizzle forizzle boldly wrote: > tori was on the radio 2 program live from the stables earlier today. she > performed "leather", "mother revolution" and, with the house big band, "you > belong to me". . . . > share the files all you want but please don't publicize the link elsewhere. > those of you with the bandwidth and the webspace, feel free to mirror the > files as well! These are now mirrored at: http://www.thunderwishes.com/tori2005-06-06-BBCRadio2-LiveFromTheStables/ Share the files all you want but please don't publicize the link elsewhere. I'll leave them there for a week. - -- - - Brian Tanaka - - http://www.briantanaka.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:44:24 -0700 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: tori on live from the stables While I'm at it, the Jonathan Ross files are mirrored here: http://www.thunderwishes.com/tori2005-06-04-BBCRadio2-Jonathan_Ross/ (Or, they will be in a little while. The mirroring is in progress, and I'm stepping out for a burrito, but I'm sure it'll be fine. Knock wood.) Share the files all you want but please don't publicize the link elsewhere. I'll leave them there for a week. - - Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:37:06 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: tori / portsmouth, va / august 14 on ticketmaster ticketmaster has added a listing for the portsmouth, va show: Tori Amos NTELOS Pavilion Harbor Center, Portsmouth, VA Sun, Aug 14, 2005 07:00 PM US $36.50 - US $999.99 Internet Onsale Info Onsale to General Public: Sat, 06/11/05 10:00 AM (one presumes the $999.99 ticket price is a typo. ;) ). woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V10 #112 **************************************