From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V10 #111 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, June 6 2005 Volume 10 : Number 111 Today's Subjects: ----------------- UK meet & greet tips? ["pete" ] Re: the latest from toriamos.com... [culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna)] re: UK meet & greet tips? [MICHAEL GRAY ] Re: UK meet & greet tips? [handal@r2d2.reverse.net (Richard Handal)] tori on jonathan ross [wojizzle forizzle ] Re: tori on jonathan ross [Brian K Tanaka ] Lotta Keyboards (was Re: UK meet & greet tips?) [Brian K Tanaka ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:33:58 +0100 From: "pete" Subject: UK meet & greet tips? Hi Guys, Had a brilliant time at the Wolverhampton show on Thursday and can't wait for the other shows I'm going to in the week ahead. Does anyone have recent experience of meet and greets on this side of the pond? I've got the day off work for the Nottingham show, as has the only friend I know who's also obsessed enough, and we'd love to know roughly what time to start loitering by the venue. Mid afternoon? Early evening? Any tips appreciated! Since its quiet i'll post my mini-review of the Wolves show, which I've also sent in to the dent. Well after 11 years I ought to get round to writing one eventually! Pete x >>>>> hello tori! she's waving and doing the "I throw my heart at you" sign. and all in a lovely billowing white woollen(?) thing. or is it cream. very much like our new sofa. (in colour only). might loose her if she came round. anyway I'll resist the temptation to just put "brilliant!" or "amazing!" after each song as best i can. and we're off: 1 - Original Sinsuality (never did turn up as a single in the UK this week, as was mooted some time ago. a shame, she's gorgeous and nicely extended with some extra yaldaboaths (there's a flintstones joke that I'm not going to make there)) 2 - Space Dog (yay! very long Hammond intro riffing on the backing vocals, then to the piano for the main body of the song. space munky is in my coat pocket for his first tori concert, obviously she's picked up on this.) 3 - Icicle (preceded by funny story about Tash declaring she knew all about love and kissing now.) 4 - Martha's Foolish Ginger 5 - Seaside (amazingly powerful) 6 - Mrs Jesus 7 - Rattlesnakes (oh wow, my song. well one of them. on the other organ, utterly utterly spine tingling) PIANO BAR 8 - on saturday afternoons in 1963 9 - everything's alright (thanks to the people who've already posted. i had no idea what either of these were! except that they weren't Wolverhampton's own Slade, for which Tori apologised. there was a little slip in the lyrics of the second one, where tori chuckled and quickly found her place again. I'm sure no one asked for their money back) 10 - marys of the sea (I always think it should be "maries" but that's not important. And don't get me started on "joans of arc".) 11 - china (yum. but argh! the curse of the 'badly singing audience member' strikes. You know who you are. But you probably dont care.) 12 - goodbye Pisces (phew the audience singer doesnt know this one and is chatting, at least that's easier to ignore) 13 - carbon (love hearing the Scarlet tracks solo. they feel really unleashed. its almost like theyre streaking) 14 - beekeeper (part of the riff from Carbon played as an intro I think? gorgeous. it occurs to me how difficult it would be for Tori to act natural if she accidentally hit the hammond's Bossa Nova rhythm button at a moment like this) 1st encore 15 - happy phantom 16 - a sorta fairytale (with "new mexico") 2nd encore 17 - jackie's strength (lovely. but oh god the singer's off again. not letting her vague grasp of the words hold her back. or the tune. i swear, think of a dalek with laryngitis and asperger's syndrome. and rattling jewellery. In a frenzy of fury I turn around and gave her a *look*!) 18 - hey jupiter (speechlessly wonderful, on the hammond in the style of the dakota version but with the "apocalypse" verse in there too) and she's gone! that whizzed by. I've gone a bit mad this year and am going to 4 shows (3 being my previous best). I wondered if that would be overkill but on this basis I expect to still be thoroughly excited by the end of Nottingham. oh and hello to the nice lady with the hat! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 03:10:37 -0400 From: culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna) Subject: Re: the latest from toriamos.com... wojizzle forizzle wrote: > >one time at band camp, Jennifer Mitts (jennifermitts@yahoo.com) said: > >>Tori makes videos and I never see them (unless they're >>on video). Where in the world are they shown? > >i guess the "sleeps with butterflies" video has been shown on mtv and >vh1 a few times. maybe. seems these days, though, that videos by the >less popular artists only seem to get airplay on the internet. for >instance, that and other videos are at launch: > >http://music.yahoo.com/ar-314841-videos--Tori-Amos > - --VH1 Classic is probably the best place to catch Tori's videos on any regular basis. A good place to look for "Sleeps With Butterflies" and "A Sorta' Fairytale" is on the channel's "Classic/Current" Hour. It airs on Fridays at 10am/pm Eastern Time, Saturdays for 2-hours straight beginning at 9am/pm Eastern Time. It is also on Mondays at 10am/pm Eastern Time. The channel has also shown some of Tori's "older" videos during other feature hours such as "All Star Jams" and "The Alternative." They have even shown her Y Kant Tori Read video "The Big Picture." I ran into VH1 Classic airing Tori's installment of "Storytellers" back in March. I see it was airing a "Storytellers" feature last night, so maybe they could show it again. Trying to help- Lorna __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:31:30 +0100 (BST) From: MICHAEL GRAY Subject: re: UK meet & greet tips? Hi Pete / All, >Does anyone have recent experience of meet and greets on this side of the >pond? I've got the day off work for the Nottingham show, as has the only >friend I know who's also obsessed enough, and we'd love to know roughly what >time to start loitering by the venue. Mid afternoon? Early evening? Any tips >appreciated! Well, the thing is that 2 out of the 3 shows up to today haven't had a meet & greet per se. In Wolverhampton, we just didn't get one as she was late arriving, and then in London yesterday, she was filming the video and didn't even come out and say hello, shake hands or anything (which surprised me a little). The crowds have been amazingly civilised, especially considering yesterday was London at a weekend and people would have been able to make it. The first person arrived in Wolverhampton at 11am, but you'd have been okay up to maybe 2pm or even later for that one. London was a little busier, and I'd say it was filling up a little at 1pm, but still no major crowd. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:14:18 -0400 (EDT) From: handal@r2d2.reverse.net (Richard Handal) Subject: Re: UK meet & greet tips? Hi, All: First off, I wanted to thank Pete for his Dent comments. I nearly wrote you in private after the Wolves comments appeared, Pete. I expected they were yours. There seems to be ongoing confusion as to the keyboards on this tour. I recall some early posts during the Club Tour in 1998 which mentioned the "cello" Jon Evans played during Honey, so I suppose it's not surprising that some lack clarity of understand about the four different keyboards Tori has been using on this tour--at least in the U.S. and presumably Ireland and England, although I don't recall anyone saying specifically that there were four keyboards on stage at these recent concerts. It was reported that the chord organ didn't go to Australia. The keyboard on the extreme left on the stage is a Fender Rhodes Suitcase 88. This is the Rattlesnakes keyboard. She first had it out with her in 2001 on the Strange Little Tour. It has piano action, but the hammers strike metal bars rather than strings and the sound is amplified through the use of pick-ups. It was first produced in 1965, but a later more popular lighter version of the Rhodes came out in 1970. For around a decade the Rhodes was the typical piano which players took out on tours, supplanted for many uses in venues larger than small clubs when the Yamaha CP 80 Electric Grand came out. (The CP 80 uses strings but has no soundboard, and also relies on pick-ups for amplification. The CP 80 was the 1992 back-up touring piano Tori had with her to use when she couldn't get a piano at a given venue, which was her preference. Some songs on LE were recorded in her Hollywood apartment on her CP 80 when they needed a few more tracks and the money for recording was lacking.) http://www.speakeasyvintagemusic.com/fender-rhodes-electric-piano.shtml If you don't know what piano action refers to, go here and find out: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=%22piano+action%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Tori plays the Rhodes in a different style than most players have. My memories of Rhodes players are of them playing it either as cheesy accompaniment to their singing as a lounge act, or of them playing fast jazz leads on it as Chick Corea used to. (May still do; I wouldn't know.) Tori typically uses a rich cool sound with lots of sustain, often with the tremolo turned up on its preamp, and it fooled at least several 2001 newspaper reviewers into thinking that it was an organ. (A friend of mine had a review published this spring in which she referred to it as a synthesizer. People just make up crap and decide to believe it. Deeply weird.) She may have her Rhodes specially set up or "tricked out" somehow, but I'm not sure. The tremolo effect in the preamp pans it quickly back and forth in stereo, and turning the tremolo on and off can be done with a foot switch with the classic equipment. As soon as I heard the first notes of Rattlesnakes in D.C. a couple months ago it was like instant time travel taking me back to the Strange Little Tour in 2001, as it's such a signature sound of that instrument, and it came to be associated in my mind with the SLT. And I smiled with great satisfaction. I'd missed that Rattlesnakes. She must have, too. The organ at the left-hand station with the Rhodes is a Hammond Chord Organ of the type people have in their living rooms as, for example, my aunt has had since the 1960s. Tori undoubtedly gets more out of it than almost anyone who has ever played those things. They were invented for untrained home players rather than serious musicians. http://b3groove.org/docs/hamco50.php Within six years, Hammond sold more spinets than all of the organs it had previously produced. The spinet brought friends and neighbors together. These meetings of Hammond Organ owners led to the spontaneous formation of Hammond Organ Societies for fun and relaxation. So enthusiastic and active were these initial Hammond Organ Societies that there are still hundreds of these clubs in active participation across the country. For anyone who may have asked, "how much simpler can an organ be," Hammond had an answer the very next year--the first "chord organ". Anyone could learn to play in simple fashion in a few minutes. So simple and practical was this new Hammond that a whole market area opened up. With its simplicity and attractive price of only $975, many households began to weigh a Hammond Organ against a piano. It was meant to he played for fun and not as an instrument for producing trained organists. The Chord Organ (Model S) had a single, three-octave keyboard with 37 keys. In addition it had a panel of 96 buttons producing selected chords when a button was depressed with a finger of the left hand. It also contained two foot pedals that selected the "root" note or the "fifth" note of any chord played. To make things even easier for new learners, special sheet music was developed. Playing the Hammond Chord Organ became as easy as reading an ordinary road map or, for many map-puzzled motorists, far easier. The sounds of the Hammond Chord Organ originated, not in the electro-mechanical sound generator of standard Hammonds, but in electronic vacuum tubes In fact, part of the circuitry of the Solovox was built into the new product. Millions of dollars were spent in advertising to bring people into dealers' Stores to try the spinet and chord organs for themselves. Dealers offered a limited number of free lessons to buyers in the manner popularized and proven successful long before with the sewing machine. http://www.underholdningsnettet.dk/hammondhistorien.htm http://www.underholdningsnettet.dk/hammondhistorien-filer/image028.jpg Apparently, Mark gave her the chord organ for Christmas in 2003 and she later bought the B3. She's mentioned this in interviews from this year. The organ as she swings around at the piano station is a Hammond B3, basically the industry standard and fave of organists for decades. She uses with it a Leslie speaker cabinet. The Leslie has a cabinet which spins speakers around in it which creates vibrato, and typically has three speed settings. Beauty Queen was recorded through a Leslie and she first had a Leslie with her on the road in 1996 specifically for use during BQ, and she has it on this tour both for the B3, and for the Boesey during BQ. Folks may remember hearing something that sounded like it was scratching during BQ on this tour. It always had that, even back in 1996. I always think the bearings that allow its speakers to spin are gonna wear out any second. It's probably difficult to mic it as close as it needs to be onstage and not get that, but this of itself has become a signature sound, and when some of you who were around back on the DDI tour in 1996 hear this or heard it at your shows this year, you may have been likewise traveling back in time to the days of tours past. http://www.speakeasyvintagemusic.com/leslie-cabinet.shtml The Boesendorfer is--well, her Boesendorfer. It's a model 275 and has four "extra" bass keys for a total of 92. Even when she doesn't use those notes, the strings for those keys resonate sympathetically and add depth of character to her sound. There's much to say about her piano, but I'll refrain for now. > 10 - marys of the sea (I always think it should be "maries" but that's > not important. And don't get me started on "joans of arc".) Pete, I propose CDs-ROM. Whaddya think? :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:20:37 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: tori on jonathan ross tori was on the jonathan ross show on radio 2 yesterday. she was on for about 30 minutes and chatted quite a bit with jonathan and his co-host whose name i can never remember (andy?) about tash, husband, hair dye and other stuff. they also played the album version of "sweet the sting" and tori performed "the power of orange knickers" live. it's a pretty entertaining listen. fortunately, you can still listen to this in glorious realaudio on the bbc website for the next week at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio2_aod.shtml?radio2/ross and here's the direct link to the stream if you don't like the embedded realaudio player thingie: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio2/ross.rpm tori's appearance starts two hours and five minutes into the program. i've captured the appearance as well. download it at http://www.smoe.org/woj/tori2005-06-04-BBCRadio2-Jonathan_Ross/ there's a realaudio file that is cropped out of the webcast. if you can handle realaudio, that would be the faster download. i've also transcoded the appearance to mp3 and split it up into individual tracks. that's a bigger download but handy for folks who don't like the realaudio. it doesn't sound any better than the realaudio original, of course. enjoy! woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 11:07:03 -0700 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: tori on jonathan ross On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:20:37PM -0400, wojizzle forizzle boldly wrote: . . . > there's a realaudio file that is cropped out of the webcast. if you can > handle realaudio, that would be the faster download. i've also > transcoded the appearance to mp3 and split it up into individual > tracks. that's a bigger download but handy for folks who don't like > the realaudio. it doesn't sound any better than the realaudio original, > of course. . . . Thanks, woj! You're the best! - - Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 11:24:50 -0700 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Lotta Keyboards (was Re: UK meet & greet tips?) Your post, Richard, has saved me the time of trying to find out what keyboards were on stage this tour. And *then* it went on--apparently not satisfied with being merely helpful but preferring instead to be massively informative--to save me the much bigger trouble of trying to find out how they were equipped plus background information about each instrument. Yeesh. Thanks. Plus, I always thought your aunt had a Hammond Spinnet, not a Chord Organ, but now I see I was wrong. Kidding. - - Brian On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:14:18PM -0400, Richard Handal boldly wrote: . . . > The keyboard on the extreme left on the stage is a Fender Rhodes > Suitcase 88. . . . > The organ at the left-hand station with the Rhodes is a Hammond Chord > Organ of the type people have in their living rooms as, for example, my > aunt has had since the 1960s. . . . > The organ as she swings around at the piano station is a Hammond B3, > basically the industry standard and fave of organists for decades. . . . > The Boesendorfer is--well, her Boesendorfer. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:36:17 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: tori on live from the stables for those who may have missed this on the dent, here's an upcoming radio appearance in the uk. Tori will be on show called 'Live From The Stables' on BBC Radio 2 in the U.K. on Monday, June 6, 2005 Updated Wed, Jun 01, 2005 - 8:25pm ET Jodie informs me that Tori Amos is on BBC Radio 2 in the U.K. on Monday, June 6, 2005 at 9:00pm (BST) on a show called 'Live From The Stables'. The Stables is a venue in Milton Keynes, England. the show's website is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/livefromstables/ where it is mentioned that tori will be performing "you belong to me" (from the mona lisa smiles soundtrack), along with two other tracks from the beekeeper. radio2 broadcasts at 89-91fm and is streamed live in realaudio at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio2.shtml woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V10 #111 **************************************