From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V10 #91 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, April 29 2005 Volume 10 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Jamaica Inn [eviltori@aol.com] Re: Jamaica Inn [Amanda Bradley ] Re: Far Too Gone [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Jamaica Inn [Jennifer Mitts ] RE: Jamaica Inn ["Tom xxxxx" ] Re: Jamaica Inn [songchicky ] Re: Far Too Gone [Jennifer Mitts ] Atlanta concert recording? [onionne ] Re: Atlanta concert recording? [wojizzle forizzle ] Fwd: Last Night, I played 'Sweet the Sting'... [wojizzle forizzle To: precious-things@smoe.org Sent: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Jamaica Inn . the pirates have come Between Rebecca's Beneath your firmaments... Maybe I'm dense, but I'm not getting it. "The pirates have come between Rebecca's"? What does this mean? Anybody got a clue? Thanks, jen Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:56:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda Bradley Subject: Re: Jamaica Inn Jennifer Mitts wrote: >>.. the pirates have come Between Rebecca's Beneath your firmaments... Maybe I'm dense, but I'm not getting it. "The pirates have come between Rebecca's"? What does this mean? Anybody got a clue?<< There are novels that this song is based on. They are Jamaica Inn and Rebecca by Daphne DuMaurier. The same author also wrote Birds that Alfred Hitchcock turned into a movie. There is a thread on toriphorums regarding this song. Go to Interpretations and look for Jamaica Inn. As of right now, it's on Page 2 of this section. If in doubt, always check the Interpretations page out. It's very informative and helpful. 'Course it's all opinion, but sometimes all we need is another idea to come to our own. Peace Out, Amanda ~~She's a girl out working her Trade/and she loses a little each day/to ghetto pimps and presidents/who try and arouse her turquoise serpents~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:09:21 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Far Too Gone On 26 Apr 2005, at 14:44, Melissa Olges wrote: > A friend of mine sent me an e-mail about a film called "Far Too Gone." > The > IMDb synopsis says it's a documentary, but the cast credits suggest > otherwise. It sounds bizarre. Has anyone seen it? It's a mockumentary. It is a bit on the bizarre side. I wrote a review of it in the Summer 2004 issue of "Little Blue World". You can buy a back copy of this issue (or any other issue) from our website, as well as subscribe there. The website is: http://www.little-blue-world.org/ The next issue of LBW features an in-depth exclusive interview with Tori. That's probably a better reason for you to go to our website and check us out. :) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:13:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Mitts Subject: Re: Jamaica Inn R, You are awesome for getting that allusion. I just looked up D. Du Maurier's bibliography and there's only one book with the title Rebecca in it, so I can't figure out why Tori says something is "between Rebecca's" or "between Rebeccas." I also thought it was interesting that another one of du Maurier's titles is Mary Ann and so is one of Tori's songs (Marianne). - -jen - --- eviltori@aol.com wrote: > Daphne du Maurier wrote "Jamaica Inn" before > her novel "Rebecca" -- and that's all I know on > that subject. I'm still not quite sure why Tori > references pirates in so many of her > songs...can't find any connection there, other > than the whole Cornish coast thing. > > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer Mitts > To: precious-things@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:09:10 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Jamaica Inn > > > > .. the pirates have come > Between Rebecca's > Beneath your firmaments... > > Maybe I'm dense, but I'm not getting it. "The > pirates have come between Rebecca's"? What > does > this mean? Anybody got a clue? > > Thanks, > jen > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:02:11 +0000 From: "Tom xxxxx" Subject: RE: Jamaica Inn >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:09:10 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jennifer Mitts >Subject: Jamaica Inn > >.. the pirates have come >Between Rebecca's >Beneath your firmaments... > >Maybe I'm dense, but I'm not getting it. "The >pirates have come between Rebecca's"? What does >this mean? Anybody got a clue? Hi Jen You aren't dense. You just haven't read a lot of Daphne DuMornier (I think I'm spelling that wrong). "Jamaica Inn" and "Rebecca" are two of her novels. Not sure about the firmaments. I'm paraphrasing what my boyfriend told me, who has read "Jamaica Inn." I may get some of the details wrong, but "Jamaica Inn" is about a girl in Cornwall who lives in the Jamaica Inn, a hangout for local pirates and wreckers. Wreckers are folks who would go down to the coast when ships were coming in and light lanterns. The men on the ship would think that the wreckers were lighthouses or beacons leading them to safety. In reality, the wreckers were leading the boats onto rocks, so that they could steal the cargo that would wash up after the shipwreck. That also explains the last verse about the cliffs and lantern and also the theme of trust in the song. I haven't read "Rebecca" but it is the basis of the Hitchcock movie of the same name. I hope this helps somewhat. I wonder if "firmaments" is from another of DuMornier's writings. Cheers, Tom M. "Can you Mr. Bush light the sage" - --- Tori Amos, "Indian Summer" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: songchicky Subject: Re: Jamaica Inn i would assume that it's a sexual allusion, suggesting that the pirates have had sex with rebecca (or the woman/women represented by rebecca). rather than saying "the pirates have come between rebecca's legs/lips", she suspends the line and leaves it open to inference. that's just my assumption of course - could be totally wrong. t.t. Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Mitts Subject: Jamaica Inn . the pirates have come Between Rebecca's Beneath your firmaments... Maybe I'm dense, but I'm not getting it. "The pirates have come between Rebecca's"? What does this mean? Anybody got a clue? Thanks, jen http://tanishataitt.ca Debut album Overflow available now. - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Mitts Subject: Re: Far Too Gone I just added it to my NetFlix queue. NetFlix lists it in its Independent Films category, not under Documentaries. Thanks for the headds up on this film! - -jen Melissa wrote: "A friend of mine sent me an e-mail about a film called "Far Too Gone." The IMDb synopsis says it's a documentary, but the cast credits suggest otherwise. It sounds bizarre. Has anyone seen it?" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:55:13 -0400 From: onionne Subject: Atlanta concert recording? I was hoping that a full recording of the Atlanta show exists somewhere. I did track down a few files, but I would really love to get my hands on a full recording. I was lucky enough to get a copy of the first Sarah McLachlan concert I attended, and would really like to do the same for my first Tori show, which was amazing, I might add. thanks! onionne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:33:44 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: Re: Atlanta concert recording? one time at band camp, onionne (onionne@gmail.com) said: >I was hoping that a full recording of the Atlanta show exists >somewhere. I did track down a few files, but I would really love to >get my hands on a full recording. yep, the entire thing exists. if you are bittorrent-conversant, this and many other recent shows are availble for download at toritraders.com. there are also a few recent shows on dimeadozen.org, another bittorrent site, which will eventually be added to toritraders once the dime torrents have run their course. since i imagine a lot of people are either not able to use bittorrent or can't be bothered so i'll be posting a trade offer for 2005 shows here sometime in the near future. maybe even tonight. stay tuned! woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:25:40 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: Fwd: Last Night, I played 'Sweet the Sting'... so, buried in the latest touchy-feely note from the tori amos team is the news that "sweet the sting" will be the next single from _the beekeeper_. not sure whether that means service to radio like "sleeps with butterflies" or a proper commercial single release but i would place my money on the former... woj >From: "Tori Amos Team" >To: "woj" >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:12:17 -0700 >Subject: Last Night, I played 'Sweet the Sting'... > > April 28, 2005 >Dear woj, > >For those of you fortunate enough, how amazing was Tori live? I still get >chills at how just a voice and a piano can be so hauntingly beautiful. >Anyhow, now that I'm home, talking up my Tori experience to all my >girlfriends, I realized how many of them still haven't heard Tori's new >music. Last night, I played my Keane-obsessed friend "Marys of the Sea" >and "Sweet the Sting" (the next single!!) she nearly fell over, then >apologized for not picking up her own copy months ago. So this week, we >here at Team Tori want you to think of all the other artists that you and >your friends like... Then introduce Tori's new music to them and surprise >them. Make those fans realize that THE BEEKEEPER is one hell of an album >with some truly amazing songs. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V10 #91 *************************************