From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V10 #82 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, April 16 2005 Volume 10 : Number 082 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: precious-things-digest V10 #79 [culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna)] Re: precious-things-digest V10 #79 [culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna)] RE: covers & alternate tracklist [culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna)] RE: covers & alternate tracklist (take 2) [culturediva82@netscape.net (Lo] tori / world cafe reminder [jeff albertson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:05:32 -0400 From: culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna) Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V10 #79 Just to clarify- I didn't mean for my post to be aimed negatively at anyone who doesn't visit The Dent or subscribes to this and other lists. Personally, I find it hard to keep up with everything. :-P I visit mostly the news page there on a regular basis. I'm online, but not 24/7. I live out in the country in a state whose government is fighting over the whole broadband-for-all issue right now. ;-/ I was implying that it would be wise for venues to remind attendees of any "rules" pertaining to stage-rushing and such. I also agree with Richard Handal that it happens because Tori allows it and wants it to. I respect that she wants it to. ;-) Many acts generally do, and that's part of the fun of concert-going). But it really needs to be done with some courtesy and respect for others. Otherwise tragedy will indeed strike. ;-( Lorna Dana wrote: > >Lorna wrote: > >> I have been to shows for other bands where there would be >> announcements over the PA systems about any "rules" concerning the >> particular concert, such as stage-rushing. Usually the message is >> heard loud and clear, making the shows fun for all. They should be >> doing the same somehow at Tori shows. It's amazing how many of her >> fans don't even bother to visit The Dent, let alone subscribe to these >> lists, to keep up with any news and--yes--rules. How would you or >> anyone else like it if Tori quit touring because of imbicile concert >> attendees who just don't have any common-sense courtesy at all? ;-/ > > >i agree, it should be announced over PA. > >as far as how many fans don't bother to visit the Dent to keep up with >this stuff... i happen to be a fan who doesn't bother to check the >Dent. i love tori, but seriously 99% of what's on there i just am not >that interested in to read. i don't feel the need to see every set of >meet and greet photos or whatever is up there. i even subscribed to >the Dent's feed on live journal for a while, but unsubbed because it >was just cluttering up my friends page. honestly, tori's the only >person i'm even mildly obsessive about, and the Dent is just way too >much for me, personally. > >i think assuming that every ewf checks the Dent or subs to PT or other >lists would be ridiculous of tori, because not every tori fan has >access to the net. nor does every tori fan feel they want all the rest >of what comes with reading the Dent regularly, or subbing to this list. > 9 times out of 10, i'm not entirely sure why i'm here, either. > >that said, you're right - it would suck if she decided to stop touring >b/c of imbecile concert attendees... however, these things should be >announced at the concerts themselves. it's the only way to make sure >that all the people in attendance hear loud and clear. > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. 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If they try to control something >that turns sour and someone gets hurt, the injured party may have more of >a case against her because they didn't do a good job when they *tried* to >shape the situation in question. - --Yes, there indeed could be legal issues over this sort of thing (Like, who wants to be held responsible for anything bad happening?). > >For many years Sanchez could have tried to impose a lot more order on the >afternoon fan meetings than he did, but he never even felt inclined to >speak loudly enough when he told people the general rules such as "she'll >only use her pen to sign; when she's finished speaking to you don't move >away because it could turn into chaos," etc. This engendered hard feelings >on the part of some people in back when the ones in front had spoken with >her and they remained where they were at the barricade, and the ones who >didn't move away got branded as being selfish by not letting others have a >chance. Those in back hadn't heard Sanchez tell the people not to move. > >This is the sort of paradigm they've built for everyone. I wouldn't hold >my breath waiting for this to suddenly change after thirteen years. > - --That reminds me. I'm finishing up reading Tori's book now and I just read the paragraph where Duncan said about how he was with Tori and Tash in a bookstore on a day off, and there was a crowd of fans gathered there wanting to meet her. She first said that she would only sign just one or two autographs and not allow photos to be taken. But once she got started she was signing everything and people were snapping pics away. ;-) We'll live through this, Lorna __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:41:49 -0400 From: culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna) Subject: RE: covers & alternate tracklist - --I hate to be the bearer of "bad" news, but 16 Horsepower just announced their breakup. I think the website is http://www.16horsepower.com, or http://www.16horsepower.net (I don't have the exact link on hand). There is also a note about it on the front page of http://pastemagazine.com (you might need to scroll down in that little newsbox they have there. The members are continuing on in other projects. Catching up myself, :-) Lorna Beth Winegarner wrote: > >People are expressing things they wish Tori would cover on this tour, >but I keep thinking I'd like to hear "The Beekeeper" covered by 16 >Horsepower or David Eugene Edwards' side project, Woven Hand. I think >he'd do an amazing job with it. (His cover of Bob Dylan's "Nobody 'Cept >You" is beyond amazing.) - -- Lorna One of these days I'll re-download at least my Yahoo IM. ;-D Stay tuned... __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:45:51 -0400 From: culturediva82@netscape.net (Lorna) Subject: RE: covers & alternate tracklist (take 2) Beth Winegarner wrote: > >People are expressing things they wish Tori would cover on this tour, >but I keep thinking I'd like to hear "The Beekeeper" covered by 16 >Horsepower or David Eugene Edwards' side project, Woven Hand. I think >he'd do an amazing job with it. (His cover of Bob Dylan's "Nobody 'Cept >You" is beyond amazing.) - --Woven Hand is one of the projects that's continuing on. Lorna __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:20:42 -0400 From: jeff albertson Subject: tori / world cafe reminder just a reminder that tori is scheduled to be on the world cafe today. the program airs live on wxpn in philadelphia at 2pm eastern time with a rebroadcast at 1am late friday night/early saturday morning. wxpn broadcasts at 88.5fm in philadelphia/southern new jersey, 104.9 fm in the lehigh valley, 90.5fm in worton/baltimore and 88.1fm in harrisburg. they also have low bitrate windows media and mp3 streams at . the world cafe is also carried by many other public radio stations throughout the united states. the complete list is at . many of them stream as well. woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V10 #82 *************************************