From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V9 #129 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, December 17 2004 Volume 09 : Number 129 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Old Libel Tori "Review" ["T Taitt" ] Re: Old Libel Tori "Review" [Cyndi S Crawford ] ack! [Cyndi S Crawford ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 02:14:09 -0500 From: "T Taitt" Subject: Re: Old Libel Tori "Review" i agree with nadyne and dana. this guy missed some of the symbolism and irony present on Scarlet's Walk. unless someone is a real fan who has become accustomed to Tori's songwriting methodology, it's not unrealistic or unreasonable that her lyrics may be horribly misconstrued. it analogous to people saying that Ice T was advocating gunning down policemen in Cop Killer. they completely missed the point, but because they had no idea who they were critiquing or what his motivations and perspectives were, they took it at face value and went to town with it. there will always be people that do this, even reviewers who should be able to dig a bit deeper to find substance in the subtext. not everyone will like Tori and no one is obligated to. were his comments abrasive? of course. misguided? sure. insensitive? yes. but not libel. if every time a reviewer slammed an artistic product people could sue for libel, the courts would be backed up for decades. xo tanisha (happy lurker) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:25:52 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford Subject: Re: Old Libel Tori "Review" I already sent in a review the first time the article surfaced on here and RDTRN.. and I'm glad I did, too, cuz libel or not, what he said really did cross the line(s). it may be downright mean of him, what he said, but.. why bother making ourselves look even worse to the anti-Tori folks (idiots, the whole lot of 'em! *snarls and growls!* ;) ) who think her fans are.. for lack of a better word.. "nucking futs" and unable to let idiots be idiots? it's been a WHILE since that review was printed as one of the other PTers mentioned.. (Nadyne? Dana?) I think if we all send emails saying "fire this bastard!", they'll pretty much laugh and say "what, they're STILL mad over that review from forever ago? I don't even remember it!" sad, but true. if it were up to me, I'd most CERTAINLY see to it that the reviewer got fired and was forced to work at burger joints for the rest of his days. maybe he did by now, though.. you never know. I do hope so. *shuts up and runs off to the shadows again* Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford "I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:27:48 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford Subject: ack! I forgot to add this to my email before I sent it off! *slaps self around* ...*ahem* now on the other hand, if this guy continues to treat Tori like shit with his reviewing when the Beekeeper comes out, you can bet for SURE that I'm gonna jump down his throat. ... civilly of course. ;) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford "I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V9 #129 *************************************