From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V8 #267 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, November 22 2003 Volume 08 : Number 267 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Is Atlantic doing the press for TOAL... [Shaman ] Re: atlantic records toal press release [Shaman ] Re: Is Atlantic doing the press for TOAL... [Shaman ] Re: My Take on Tales [Shaman ] Tori on the Sharon Osbourne Show- Help! [ToriVolta@aol.com] independant tori interview [fingerpuppets ] Re: Tori on the Sharon Osbourne Show- Help! [David Mobley ] Re: My Take on Tales [fingerpuppets ] Re: atlantic records toal press release [Brian K Tanaka ] Re: My Take on Tales [Nadyne Mielke ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:19:49 -0800 From: Shaman Subject: Re: Is Atlantic doing the press for TOAL... On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:36:34 -0600, you wrote: > >..or is it the Bridge Entertainment Group? > >Woj said: >>but seriously, while this does suck, atlantic seems to be doing >>a pretty good job pushing the record on the whole. there's a ton >>of press and tv/radio appearances for what is essentially just a >>greatest hits collection. > >Since Atlantic didn't do much while Tori was still actually ON their label, >I find it difficult to believe that they'd expend this much effort on her >final release for them. > >And am I making things up, or did I read somewhere that TOAL was going to be >Bridge's first promotion project? > >Melissa Really? I haven't seen a single print or TV ad !! I almost forgot what day it was coming out since things have been so hidden. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:43:52 -0800 From: Shaman Subject: Re: atlantic records toal press release On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:21:13 -0800, you wrote: > >At 11:09 PM 11/19/2003, Ryan Engel wrote: > >>As for toal, I'm pleased with the increased depth many of the songs now >>display. But I can't help but wonder, how would these remastered songs >>sound on a Super Audio (is that what it's called?) disc? And when will it >>be released so I can buy it again in the new format? > >I was wondering about DVD-Audio. It's better quality than SACD (Super >Audio CD) [1]. You can play it in your existing DVD video player, although >you'll get better quality if you have a player for DVD-A. (There are >universal DVD players that will play DVD-V and DVD-A, but I don't know how >widespread they are.) I have one by JVC and another one by Panasonic. I'll probably get a DVD +/- R(W) drive next since they're under $150 and will be under $100 in the next few months. I've already seen 4X DVD +/- R(W) drives at $99, $119, $139 & $149, etc. and the disks are under $1. The only way to get the full audio fidelity is by using an Audigy 2 card since not even the recent 24/96 amplifiers that FINALLY came out have full support. That's why I haven't bought a new reciever. I'm using my 20 years old Kenwood integrated amplifier since the industry can't seem to get their shit together and put out a decent amplifier that can handle playing a DVD-Audio disk even after a year or two. I use a seperate pre-amp. I had to buy the pair from an importer in california since no local outfits carried their high end equipment. It's probably equivalent to Sony's Elite series which you can probably find in some shops. P.S. - I also know of a few portable DVD players that support DVD-Audio. I also saw two such models at Circuit City last summer that they still carry. >R.E.M. has been re-mixing their back catalogue for DVD-A. A bunch of old >Bob Dylan albums are available on SACD [2]. There's industry support for >both formats. Will one of them win, or will we end up with universal >players that will play SACDs, DVD-V, and DVD-A? I dunno. > >/nm They already have them. >[1] That point is up for debate, of course, but that's because audiophiles >love arguing. > >[2] I have to wonder who the hell would want to hear his horrible voice in >even better sound quality. Dylan is a good lyricist, don't get me wrong, >but I firmly believe that he shouldn't be allowed within a hundred yards of >a microphone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:47:18 -0800 From: Shaman Subject: Re: Is Atlantic doing the press for TOAL... On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:39:43 -0500, you wrote: > >one time at band camp, Melissa Olges (mnholges@hotmail.com) said: > >>..or is it the Bridge Entertainment Group? > >ah yes, good point! > >>Since Atlantic didn't do much while Tori was still actually ON their label, >>I find it difficult to believe that they'd expend this much effort on her >>final release for them. > >..unless atlantic is trying to cash in on whatever popularity tori picked >up through epic's promotion of scarlet's walk and the subsequent tour. >there was a lot of mainstream radio success with "a sorta fairytale" >and atlantic may be trying to capitalize on a new group of fans who >don't have the earlier albums. > >>And am I making things up, or did I read somewhere that TOAL was going to be >>Bridge's first promotion project? > >yeah, it was in the press release the bridge posted on their website >: > > The Bridges first client will be Ms. Amos and they will be overseeing > the upcoming launch of Tales of a Librarian on Atlantic Records on > November 18 followed shortly thereafter by the release of the film > Mona Lisa Smile for which Amos contributed to the soundtrack as well > as making a cameo appearance in the movie. > >woj The Mona Lisa's smile is even unlike Tori's. You know what I mean? I hope I'm not the only one whose noticed??? I am kinda too much into Tori. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:55:19 -0800 From: Shaman Subject: Re: My Take on Tales On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:37:04 EST, you wrote: > >Well, first I have to say Snow Cherries From France is absolutely, gorgeously >perfect and was well worth the wait. Now I understand why Tori takes her >time with certain things. > >I went to buy this thing last night along with Cyndi Lauper's new release at >midnight at this stupid store called Media Play, they told me both of them >weren't "premier artists" and that they wouldn't be available until morning. Did >anyone else encounter anything like this?? What the hell is a "premier >artist" anyhow. Most people were there for Britney Spears :(...she isn't a >"premier artist" is she?? I didn't think so either! So I got it after work today. > >I thought the CD case and booklet were just awesome, all very well thought >out to perfection! The DVD I think is awesome..although it could longer, that's >my only complaint. I like the sound check as opposed to a live setting, it's >way more intimate. It's not exactly "live" but it's not studio either so I >don't know why everyone's complaining about. We'll get a full DVD soon, I can >feel it coming. Think about how great the new stuff was on here, worth the >wait..so the DVD is probably even more worth the wait. > >Something else I noticed to. We were wondering why "Sneeze" and "Talula" >didn't make it. Then I noticed "Pro. Widow" is the dance remix...WAS SHE TRYING >TO KEEP THE HARPSICHORD OUT OF THIS??? What's everyone else think? I found >that strange. > >Hope to hear other peoples thoughts soon. > >Jon I was going to go to Tower Records which used to have stay open until midnight but it now closes at 10 PM so no midnight buying like in the past. P.S. - Are most people paying $14.99? That seems to be the most common price around. I know that amazon.com, buy.com, Circuit City, Tower Records, etc. were all pricing it at that price. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:34:19 EST From: ToriVolta@aol.com Subject: Tori on the Sharon Osbourne Show- Help! I don't keep up with the frickin' Osbournes... so what channel is the Sharon Osbourne show on? Thanks a million. Peace Out, Amanda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:57:06 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: independant tori interview Tori Amos: Fairy-tale endings Personal torment once inspired Tori Amos. Not any more, she tells James McNair 21 November 2003 As you might expect, Tori Amos is sorted for real estate. She owns a Georgian pad in County Cork, and a beach house near Miami. Today, though, we are at her 19th-century cottage near Bude, in north Cornwall, dining at the kitchen table. The cottage overlooks Amos's studio complex and her English recording- engineer husband, Mark Hawley, is here too. It is almost 12 years since the North Carolina-born singer and pianist released her debut album, Little Earthquakes. In 1994, she helped establish the rape and incest charity Rainn, and in 1997, Armand Van Helden's chart-topping remix of "Professional Widow" helped reinvent her briefly as a dance artist. More recently, Amos's 2002 album, Scarlet's Walk, yielded "A Sorta Fairytale", her biggest US hit. She has just released Tales Of A Librarian, a best-of-and-bonuses collection she describes as her "sonic autobiography". "My whole life with songs has been about chronicling time," Amos says. "I would write a piece of music so that, six months later, when everybody had forgotten about, say, our glossing over of that embarrassing incident at church [Amos's father is a Methodist Minister], I could remember what actually happened." Amos and Hawley have worked hard to ensure that Tales Of A Librarian has real life and spark. Featuring two new songs, and reworkings of the rare B-sides "Mary" and "Sweet Dreams", the collection also finds Amos revisiting classic tracks from her career. These new versions of familiar gems emphasise different aspects of the original mixes, restoring "lost" backing vocals and instrumental overdubs. With lunch over, Amos suggests a snug, downstairs room for the interview proper. How had it felt, then, to listen back to her younger self singing songs such as "Crucified" and "Me and a Gun"? "Mostly, I really enjoyed revisiting the songs. But 'Me and a Gun' [the Little Earthquakes track which documents Amos's real-life rape] was the one where, once we'd checked the multi-track, I wanted Mark to deal with it alone. At the mastering stage, I lit a candle as I always do, and I heard her voice and she touched my heart. When I'd made my peace with it, I said, 'OK, I'm gonna go now.' I've worked very hard to move on from that song so that I'm not a victim of it. "With 'Crucified'", Amos continues, "it was completely the reverse. I could enjoy being with the girl who sang that; enjoy hearing her piss and vinegar as she took on the patriarchy. My approach now is very different to how it was then, though. If you're angry at 40, it's not attractive. But being angry and writing a song like 'Crucified' when you're 26 - well there's something sort of delicious about that." The new Amos song, "Angels", might please the George Bush-baiting author and film-maker Michael Moore. Still, the song's lyric takes some deciphering. When I confess bewilderment, Amos explains that the angels she sings of represent the votes "lost" in Florida during the last presidential election. "It's getting better by the day, but it's been a tough two years", she adds. "I think about the war in Iraq, too, and the depressing fact that we're still in it", Amos continues. "If you try and speak out in America, people say you're not supporting the country, but it's the administration you're not supporting. It's funny, because Christians talk about people being possessed, but they're attempting to possess the voice of the land. So 'Angels' is partly about the 'lost' votes, and partly about a mass of people who could not see that they had the strength to stand up to everything that followed." As our interview winds down, I confess that I have been tipped-off about Amos's alter-ego, Mrs Paris. This, she confirms with a giggle, is the old lady she pretends to be while teaching her three-year-old daughter, Natashya, the piano. So, is there a special outfit? "No, it's more of an imagination thing," she laughs. "Besides, it was the only way I could get 'Tash to take lessons from me." 'Tales of a Librarian' is out now on Eastwest ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:34:25 -0500 From: David Mobley Subject: Re: Tori on the Sharon Osbourne Show- Help! Friday, November 21, 2003, 3:34:19 AM, you wrote: Tac> I don't keep up with the frickin' Osbournes... so what channel is the Sharon Tac> Osbourne show on? Thanks a million. It's a syndicated show. Go to www.tvguide.com and figure it out for wherever you live. It's going to be a different station at a different time for pretty much every city in the country. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:46:54 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: Is Atlantic doing the press for TOAL... one time at band camp, Shaman (shaman@eskimo.com) said: >Really? I haven't seen a single print or TV ad !! I almost forgot >what day it was coming out since things have been so hidden. what? you haven't seen the hundreds of tales of a librarian banner ads plastered all over the web by the tori amos online street team? ;) ;) ;) woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:54:56 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: My Take on Tales one time at band camp, Shaman (shaman@eskimo.com) said: >P.S. - Are most people paying $14.99? That seems to be the most common >price around. I know that amazon.com, buy.com, Circuit City, Tower >Records, etc. were all pricing it at that price. i paid a bit more, but i bought it from a indie store that i prefer to give my business to. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:35:31 -0800 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: atlantic records toal press release On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 08:16:05AM -0500, David Mobley boldly wrote: > > according to: > > http://www.audiomedia.com/redesign-2003/regional-issues/issue-european/2003/2003-10/html/uk-1003-toriamos/1003-toriamos.htm > > "The record company's not interested in putting out a stereo DVD-A or > SACD of this, which I think is a great shame. " > > So uh, never. The CD's all you get if you want the new versions. Blast. A DVD-A or SACD would've been very nice indeed. It's kinda bothersome that a big label doesn't put out one or the other for a big artist when an itty bitty label like Barsuk is putting out an SACD version of Death Cab For Cutie's "Transatlanticism". - -- - - Brian Tanaka - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:39:32 -0800 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: atlantic records toal press release On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:21:13AM -0800, Nadyne Mielke boldly wrote: > > [2] I have to wonder who the hell would want to hear his horrible voice in > even better sound quality. There must be someone.[1] > Dylan is a good lyricist, don't get me wrong, but I firmly believe > that he shouldn't be allowed within a hundred yards of a microphone. I'm glad you think Dylan is a good lyricist.[2] - -bt [1] I'm one such someone. [2] But s/good/great/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:58:02 -0800 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: My Take on Tales On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:01:13PM +0000, Tom xxxxx boldly wrote: > > I haven't checked out the DVD yet, so I have nothing to say about it. I > hope everyone enjoys their copy. I'm going ass-backwards; I'm devouring the DVD first and haven't given more than a quick overview listening to the CD. Odd, I know. Did anyone else notice that she says "I DON'T go there anymore" rather than "I CAN'T go there anymore" (emphasis mine) in Northern Lad? I like that. It has that "increasingly-empowered-Tori" thing to it. - -- - - Brian Tanaka - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:27:34 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: My Take on Tales At 11:55 PM 11/20/2003, Shaman wrote: >P.S. - Are most people paying $14.99? That seems to be the most common price >around. I know that amazon.com, buy.com, Circuit City, Tower Records, >etc. were >all pricing it at that price. Best Buy charged me US$11.99 for the CD+DVD. I didn't see how much they were charging for just the CD. /nm ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V8 #267 *************************************