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precious-things-digest Friday, October 31 2003 Volume 08 : Number 248
Today's Subjects:
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Re: one single from Scarlet.... [Jenngerose@aol.com]
Re: the card catalog [e m <crysteleni@yahoo.com>]
website movement [fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org>]
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:04:50 EST
From: Jenngerose@aol.com
Subject: Re: one single from Scarlet....
First time posting here,a bit of a shy gal,ha! But,thought I'd say something
about the one single from Scarlet..
Personally,I would of loved Virginia to be a single or possibly Gold Dust. I
live in Pittsburgh as well..I was hoping to hear Strange on WYEP! But,whatever
happened to that contest with Taxi Ride? Such a big build up to what?
Nothing..:(
*Red Wine*
~~Ginger
In a message dated 10/29/2003 8:54:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ChaseTornadoes@aol.com writes:
I haven't heard it on the radio. I live in Pittsburgh and we have one radio
station that plays Tori which is WYEP and they really only seem to play stuff
from Little Earthquakes and they play Strange Little Girl often to. Oh they
play Carbon a lot too, why the just randomly picked that...I don't know.
Anyhow
back to my point...she could easily go mainstream if she picked out better
songs for singles and actually promoted them. I would've liked to see
Pancake,
Scarlet's Walk and You Cloud as singles but oh well.
What's everyone else's picks for singles?
Thx.
Jon
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:07:46 -0800 (PST)
From: e m <crysteleni@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: the card catalog
- --- ein kleines kinnemuzak <woj@smoe.org> wrote:
> scarlet's web was an unmitigated disaster. aside
>
(snip)
. which is also kind of a
> crime: with the
> redesign of the site, everything that was there
> before is gone. completely.
i am with you there! i kinda sensed that may occur so
i tried to go to the site and explore a bit, but like
you said, it wasn't updated, it had a few native
american links, some journal entries & pics from the
tour, but not much else..not like it was hyped, not
like it could have been.
> you know, that's another thing that bugs me about
> toriamos.com and
> fanscape: their solipsisim. they completely ignore
> the rest of the web.
> anytime they provide something "new" which has
> already been out elsewhere,
> they completely ignore that fact. infuriating.
>
Amen! tori is paying these people? they don't seem
to know what is going on, i think it would serve her
well to get more input feedback in those kind of
things from her fans.
> one time at band camp, e m said:
> >Was there only one commercial single released with
> Scarlet's Walk? How
> >pitiful.
>
> yes true, but the time for singles is also past, i
> think. they're just not
> commercially viable like they used to be. it's
> disappointing that more
> singles were not released but that's the trend for
> most artists outside of
> the dance/remix genre. (i used to think that tori's
> well of material was
> starting to dry up as far as b-sides go but then
> along came "tombigbee" and
> "mountain" and "seaside" and "indian summer" and
> ohmygodshe'sstillgoit.)
>
good point, there isn't too much in terms of singles
outside of dance genre, but think of acts like
coldplay, it seems they are putting out a new song
every 2 seconds. of course, they are quite on top of
the mainstream at the moment so they can do that, but
i think there are some acts out there besides dance
that are putting out singles. i think SW had pleanty
of songs that could have done well in today's music
market. in fact, the marketing guides the waves of
the mainstream not vice versa. hoards of people don't
come to the same idea that they are going to swing
more to the pop processed cheese sound, the industry
pushes it b/c it is easy. if they wanted to push
tori's album, they could have, and i think it would
have opened up a lot of people to her music. there
are people out there starving for good music. there
seems to be a bit of a swing towards the
singer/songwriters now too (norah jones, vanessa
carlton, john mayer...), so last year was the perfect
time to push tori.
> >Scarlet's Walk was comparable to Pele in length and
> I would say more
> >accessible to the mainstream and with pele, there
> was caught a lite
> >sneeze, hey jupiter, professional widow,
> talula...and with Scarlet there
> >was only one video for A sorta fairytale. it got
> decent air play & they
> >should have followed up with taxi ride, or any
> other song they wanted to
> >release.
>
> true, but pele was 1996 and scarlet was 2002. times
> had changed. in 1996,
> the success of little earthquakes and under the pink
> was still fresh. pele
> had an easier time since she was closer to the
> mainstream and more known.
> by 2002, she'd lost a lot of that contact with the
> mainstream. yeah, she's
> still a known and critically acclaimed artist, but
> between the cresting of
> the lilith wave and tori's dwindling mainstream
> mindshare, it's harder to
> push a record in a harsher economic environment.
>
yeah, tori had 2 great albums that were doing well,
but pele was a big departure with the harp &
harmonium, and everything. and they managed to put
out all those songs that were so different than what
was going on in the music scene at the time. the
attitude was accesible, but the music, a bit
different, i would say to anything else that was going
on...i dunno, its late. i babble.
i just think that they could have at least tried to do
more. there was all this hype & not a lot of follow
through...
- -ellen
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:32:27 -0500
From: fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: website movement
just noticed that atlantic records have updated their tori page <url:
http://www.atlantic-records.com/amostori/artistHome_main.jhtml > to
reflect the forthcoming release of tales. up until a day or two ago, it
was telling us how shocking some people would find her "new" record,
strange little girls. anwyay, not much there, but it's good to see some
movement (although they are still linking to tori.com as the "official
site" even though that now connects you to something unrelated to
tori).
woj
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