From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V8 #247 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, October 30 2003 Volume 08 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the card catalog [=?iso-8859-1?q?Tessa?= ] Re: the card catalog [ein kleines kinnemuzak ] one single from Scarlet.... [ChaseTornadoes@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:57:44 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tessa?= Subject: Re: the card catalog So about this card catalog thing. I'm intrigued. You all notice the actual stamped card on the first page is wonky? The dates are out of order, non-sequential. As my good friend Amy, fellow EWF and an actual librarian, confirmed - It's not done like that. Also, many dates are in the future. It's certain the card was intentionally created. Maybe more than meets the eye, yes? Tomos Toodles ~ Tessa *** << Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:20:37 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: the card catalog speaking of foobarred, is anyone else as unimpressed by this card catalog thing fanscape and toriamos.com have cooked up to push the tales collection? i realize it's early in the game and that good things may yet come to those who endure the inanity but i'm finding the combination of their childish promotions and inept web design to be too much to take. you'd think by now that they would have come to their senses and used the web and the internet a little more intelligently and professionally. *sigh* woj >> - --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:31:18 -0500 From: ein kleines kinnemuzak Subject: Re: the card catalog bunch o'replies... one time at band camp, ChaseTornadoes@aol.com said: >I think it's fun and innovative. I mean she could be like other artist and >not promote the "collection" at all and just be like "here, buy this." well, i think whether it's fun and innovative or not is yet to be seen since it just started. i agree that it's good to be doing *something* for the new record and not just saying "here it is, go buy it". the fact that they've redesigned the site is a good sign (and it does look nice, with the exception of the unnecessary use of frames) but i dunno what's going on with this card catalog thing. i dunno, maybe i'm just old, grumpy and jaded. ;) one time at band camp, Becka said: >i gave up on Scarlet's Web within a week. I couldn't be >bothered.. which is a shame for me, because i LOVE Kurt's photography.. and >i would have loved to have had all the images he did for the web. scarlet's web was an unmitigated disaster. aside from the incompatibility and access problems (richard?), there really wasn't a whole lot of use for the site aside from the occasional b-side. the rest of the stuff was, imho, fluff: a few snippets of information, potions, photographs which you could "collect" and what? not much else. i mean, it was kinda interesting but, ultimately, not much fun. the sporadic updates combined with the lack of traffic lead to its demise. which is also kind of a crime: with the redesign of the site, everything that was there before is gone. completely. while i hadn't gone back to it since "seaside" surfaced, i kinda wish it would always be there. even if only for the people who did like the site. >this catalog thing is going to be a disaster.. once it really starts >going.. people are going to rage*L* well, they'll only rage if toriamos.com promises more than it can chew. so far, we just have the vague "special content and surprises" which could be anything or nothing. and the "reward" of a low quality stream of "mary" -- which was already available, albeit with a watermark, from aol. big whoop. you know, that's another thing that bugs me about toriamos.com and fanscape: their solipsisim. they completely ignore the rest of the web. anytime they provide something "new" which has already been out elsewhere, they completely ignore that fact. infuriating. one time at band camp, e m said: >Was there only one commercial single released with Scarlet's Walk? How >pitiful. yes true, but the time for singles is also past, i think. they're just not commercially viable like they used to be. it's disappointing that more singles were not released but that's the trend for most artists outside of the dance/remix genre. (i used to think that tori's well of material was starting to dry up as far as b-sides go but then along came "tombigbee" and "mountain" and "seaside" and "indian summer" and ohmygodshe'sstillgoit.) >Scarlet's Walk was comparable to Pele in length and I would say more >accessible to the mainstream and with pele, there was caught a lite >sneeze, hey jupiter, professional widow, talula...and with Scarlet there >was only one video for A sorta fairytale. it got decent air play & they >should have followed up with taxi ride, or any other song they wanted to >release. true, but pele was 1996 and scarlet was 2002. times had changed. in 1996, the success of little earthquakes and under the pink was still fresh. pele had an easier time since she was closer to the mainstream and more known. by 2002, she'd lost a lot of that contact with the mainstream. yeah, she's still a known and critically acclaimed artist, but between the cresting of the lilith wave and tori's dwindling mainstream mindshare, it's harder to push a record in a harsher economic environment. one time at band camp, Kelley said: >however, the link to Mary in those pages does not work when i go to it. if all else fails, paste this url into windows media player: http://feature.atlrec.com/toriamos/mary-radio-wma-full.wma.asx (if you're using internet explorer for your browser, clicking on that link will probably work as well). one time at band camp, Tessa said: >So about this card catalog thing. I'm intrigued. You all notice the actual >stamped card on the first page is wonky? The dates are out of order, >non-sequential. As my good friend Amy, fellow EWF and an actual librarian, >confirmed - It's not done like that. Also, many dates are in the future. >It's certain the card was intentionally created. intentionally created, yes. but is the choice of dates on the card planned or just slapped together for for appearance sake? i guess we'll just ahve to sit back and see! woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:51:16 EST From: ChaseTornadoes@aol.com Subject: one single from Scarlet.... Here's a question and it might be irrelevant because I don't pay full attention to every Tori detail that slips out. But there was a big old deal made about Taxi Ride being a single and video and they did that whole stupid TaxiVision thingy. So what ever happened to Tori making the video??? Then she released Strange I heard. And that was it, no single, no video and I haven't heard it on the radio. I live in Pittsburgh and we have one radio station that plays Tori which is WYEP and they really only seem to play stuff from Little Earthquakes and they play Strange Little Girl often to. Oh they play Carbon a lot too, why the just randomly picked that...I don't know. Anyhow back to my point...she could easily go mainstream if she picked out better songs for singles and actually promoted them. I would've liked to see Pancake, Scarlet's Walk and You Cloud as singles but oh well. What's everyone else's picks for singles? Thx. Jon ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V8 #247 *************************************