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precious-things-digest  Wednesday, September 24 2003  Volume 08 : Number 217



                               Today's Subjects:
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  tori's astrological birth chart                        [JNe9027355@aol.com]
  Re: tori's astrological birth chart        [Kelley <copperbeech@nc.rr.com>]
  Re: tori's astrological birth chart  ["Tito Balleste" <orbiting@comcast.ne]
  Re: tori's astrological birth chart                [ChaseTornadoes@aol.com]
  Re: tori's astrological birth chart  [ein kleines kinnemuzik <woj@smoe.org]
  Re: tori's astrological birth chart               [cyndi.crawford@juno.com]
  Tales                                   [Brian K Tanaka <btanaka@well.com>]
  Re: tori's astrological birth chart      ["yes said" <yessaid@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Tales                              [David Mobley <dmobley@fastmail.fm>]
  Re: tori's astrological birth chart  ["Tito Balleste" <orbiting@comcast.ne]
  RE: Tales               ["Pete Lambert" <pete@petelambert.freeserve.co.uk>]
  RE:                     ["Pete Lambert" <pete@petelambert.freeserve.co.uk>]
  vote for tori at spin.com                      [e m <crysteleni@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Have You Got A Question For TORI AMOS?  [Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlan]

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:01:10 EDT
From: JNe9027355@aol.com
Subject: tori's astrological birth chart

has anyone ever done tori's chart?


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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:17:03 -0400
From: Kelley <copperbeech@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: tori's astrological birth chart

JNe9027355@aol.com wrote:

> has anyone ever done tori's chart?

that seems a bit intrusive to me--doing a high profile someone's natal 
chart.  it's like going through their cosmic closet/trash...
:\

- -- 
     ~  kelley
     Soul Intent Arts  http://www.soulintentarts.com
	             ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
     The Saferoom Project  http://www.saferoom.org/

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:56:11 -0700
From: "Tito Balleste" <orbiting@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: tori's astrological birth chart

on Monday, September 22, 2003 11:01 PM
> JNe9027355@aol.com wrote
> has anyone ever done tori's chart?

yes, i have what seems to be her accurate birth data.   the distribution of
planets alone is fascinating - everything is between leo and scorpio on one
side with (surprise, surprise) saturn in aquarius exact sextile jupiter in
aries opposed to them on the other.
sun is just over one degree from the cusp, venus conjunct, moon and mars in
libra, and (again surprise, surprise!) scorpio rising!

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:12:35 EDT
From: ChaseTornadoes@aol.com
Subject: Re: tori's astrological birth chart

this is obcessive.....i can't believe you guys are interested in her freakin 
birth charts :(

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:44:26 -0400
From: ein kleines kinnemuzik <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: Re: tori's astrological birth chart

one time at band camp, ChaseTornadoes@aol.com (ChaseTornadoes@aol.com) said:

>this is obcessive.....i can't believe you guys are interested in her freakin 
>birth charts :(

oh, it's just a combination of fun and curiosity, i'd say. celebrity
horoscopes aren't uncommon, so what's the harm in some people
researching tori's? i freely admit that i am a non-believer in
astrology but i am curious to see how people interpret it, especially
since it will have to be interpreted within the context of her being a
public figure about whom we know a fair amount.

given that, i'd like to know what tito makes of the distribution of
planetary objects on tori's chart. what's significant about everything
being between leo and scorpio? why is saturn in aquarius exact sextile
jupiter in aries opposed to them on the other not surprising? what does
scoprio rising have to do with anything?

woj

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:05:21 -0400
From: cyndi.crawford@juno.com
Subject: Re: tori's astrological birth chart

>given that, i'd like to know what tito makes of the distribution of
planetary objects on tori's chart. what's significant about everything
being between leo and scorpio? why is saturn in aquarius exact sextile
jupiter in aries opposed to them on the other not surprising? what does
scoprio rising have to do with anything?<
        yeah, tell us, I'm curious too! :D and besides, it's not like
we're trying to memorize her astrological birth chart to get it tattooed
to us or something, is it? nothing wrong with that, but I don't reckon
that this is the intent. ;)

Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
"I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in
cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a
sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:03:00 -0700
From: Brian K Tanaka <btanaka@well.com>
Subject: Tales

20 songs, including the 2 "re-recorded rarities" and Angels and Snow
Cherries from France, bonus DVD with live videos of PGY (woo!), Honey
(woo!), and Northern Lad (one more time: woo!), 5.1 remixes of Damage
and Mr. Zebra, and "an extensive photo gallery"...  This is turning out
much better than I had anticipated.  Much.

I wonder if the live videos are all from the most recent tour or if
they're from hitherto unseen archive footage.

- -- 
- - Brian Tanaka -

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:37:49 -0400
From: "yes said" <yessaid@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: tori's astrological birth chart

A friend of mine asked Tori some specific questions back in 96 so that she 
could make an accurate birth chart for her. I guess I'll put it up on 
yessaid.com sometime tonight so the curious ones can check it out, so check 
tomorrow for that. I'll make the url umm, www.yessaid.com/chart.html. It's 
not up now, so don't try the link yet. Check tomorrow. My friend drew the 
chart and wrote some stuff about it. I'll have the scans on that page, I 
suppose.
jason

yessaid.com
t o r i p h o r i a

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:17:22 -0400
From: David Mobley <dmobley@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: Tales

Allegedly, the live tracks are from the soundcheck at West Palm Beach.

Which IMO makes them utterly un-special.

Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 4:03:00 PM, you wrote:
BKT> 20 songs, including the 2 "re-recorded rarities" and Angels and Snow
BKT> Cherries from France, bonus DVD with live videos of PGY (woo!), Honey
BKT> (woo!), and Northern Lad (one more time: woo!), 5.1 remixes of Damage
BKT> and Mr. Zebra, and "an extensive photo gallery"...  This is turning out
BKT> much better than I had anticipated.  Much.

BKT> I wonder if the live videos are all from the most recent tour or if
BKT> they're from hitherto unseen archive footage.

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:58:50 -0700
From: "Tito Balleste" <orbiting@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: tori's astrological birth chart

On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:44 AM
<woj woj@smoe.org  said:
> i'd like to know what tito makes of the distribution of
> planetary objects on tori's chart.
ok, first of all, i don't "believe in" astrology either.  i find it a
fascinating multilayered system of organized and interactive symbols - kind
of like a language.  I don't believe in English, but i can communicate with
it.
i'll try to answer your questions in a simple but insightful way, limited by
my own interpretation and with the caveat that pulling out separate elements
from a comprehensive whole is less than desirable!

>what's significant about everything being between leo and scorpio?
there is a very tight concentration of eight planetary energies in a
relatively small space (90 degrees out of 360), bookended by these two fixed
or rigid signs (filters) - leo symbolizing a childlike, dramatic, generous
love of life and caring for others as a means of satisfying the self, while
scorpio symbolizes an intense, emotional, all or nothing sense of
attachment to get to the root of things and transcend.  mars (physical
energy, sexuality, purpose) and the moon (music, intuition, nurture) in the
artistic, harmony-seeking, relationship focused sign of libra sit inside
towards the middle of the muddle and are one end of the axis with jupiter -
sun (basic self, generosity, awareness) and venus (love, values, artistic
energy) in leo are one end of the axis with saturn.

>why is saturn in aquarius exact sextile jupiter in aries opposed to them on
the other not surprising?
these two planets symbolize authority, morality, loss and karma (saturn),
and philosophy, ethics, protection and kindness (jupiter), both on the
larger social scale - the sextile, a 60 degree aspect, symbolizes a
constructive blending of the two symbols, as in a tool set in the kit -
saturn in aquarius tends to manifest in a humanitarian, egalitarian way,
jupiter in aries in a self-motivated, pioneering way.
the fact that they are both "big picture" symbols and that they are opposite
the rest provide an objective focus and release for all those concentrated,
subjective, creative symbols on the "other side" - i guess the "not
surprising" part is in how dynamic and involving her personal life is shared
on a grand scale with others, while maintaining a distance and remaining
enigmatic and private.
in a case like this, without those lines of focus and outlet, for instance,
one might expect someone experiencing "demon tori" energy continuously and
uncomfortably.  She really is a cosmic conduit.

>what does scoprio rising have to do with anything?
personality as it finds an outlet and is perceived by the world - intense
sensitivity, penetrating curiousity into how things work, metaphysical
transformation and rebirth.

all in fun, right?  :-)

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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:33:34 +0100
From: "Pete Lambert" <pete@petelambert.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Tales

> 5.1 remixes of Damage
> and Mr. Zebra,

The Black Dyke Mills Band * in 5.1 are going to blow our heads off! Hoorah!

(* sorry if that upsets anyone's email filters, but that's what the brass
band on Pele are called. They used to be workers at a factory by a ditch
that was black. Honest!)

Pete
x

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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:33:37 +0100
From: "Pete Lambert" <pete@petelambert.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: RE:

> Anyone know if there's any prospect of UK or European dates this year or
> even next?
>
> Chris

She did say on one UK TV interview back in the Spring that she'd be
performing live here again in the autumn, but it looks like that fell by the
way side :-(  ... unless we maybe get a show or two to promote Librarian?

Pete
x

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:51:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: e m <crysteleni@yahoo.com>
Subject: vote for tori at spin.com

Hi all,

I saw the new bit at the dent for voting for tori in
spin's online poll for "favorite song about NY".
and afterwards i went looking through their other
polls and found this one too!

i don't know if everyone already knows about it but if
not, tori's not doing well as of now.

What''s your favorite song about Mondays?

The Bangles, "Manic Monday"  20.61 % (183) 
Arab Strap, "Mondays at the Hug & Pint"  3.72 % (33) 
Tori Amos, "I Don''t Like Mondays"  11.60 % (103) 
New Order/Orgy, "Blue Monday"  44.14 % (392) 
The Mamas and the Papas, "Monday Monday"  19.93 %
(177) 


Total votes: 888


- -Ellen

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:27:04 -0700
From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com>
Subject: Re: Have You Got A Question For TORI AMOS?

On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:17:16PM -0400, Tori Amos wrote:
> TORI FANS - 
> 
> Have you got a question you've always wanted to ask Tori Amos?
> Only the sharpest, funniest ones will be put to the flame-haired queen of
> rock and make it into a forthcoming issue of Q magazine. We'll pay 25
> pounds for each one printed - so include your name and address. Label all
> correspondence Cash For Questions (Tori Amos).

> Email: cashforquestions@Q4music.com 
> Mail: Q magazine, Mappin House, 4 Winsley Street, London W1W 8HF, UK 
> Fax: 020 7312 8247 
> 
> Get more on Tori, including lots of new tour diaries from the Lottapianos
> tour:

> http://toriamos.com/tourdiary
> http://www.toriamos.com 

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