From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V8 #109 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, May 1 2003 Volume 08 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Top 10 favorite albums [=?iso-8859-1?q?sterilevision?= ] Re: Top 10 favorite albums [MaynardsSpiral@aol.com] Top 10 favorite albums [MaynardsSpiral@aol.com] Re: Top 10 favorite albums [Finney2567@aol.com] (no subject) [Torisparta@aol.com] the smashing pumpkins [Linner317@aol.com] eclectic music list [Andrea Norstad ] Re: My Top Ten ["Stephanie Rae" ] nola [noam tchotchke ] Top Ten [lou fauxbel ] times picayune interview [noam tchotchke ] san antonio express-news concert preview/interview [noam tchotchke ] "under the radar" ["Melissa Olges" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 01:46:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?sterilevision?= Subject: Re: Top 10 favorite albums My pick, just one for artist, otherwise there'd have been many more Neurosis and Crisis albums. In strict order of preference: 1. Neurosis - Souls at Zero 2. Crisis - 8 convulsions 3. Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes 4. Portishead - Dummy 5. Tool - Aenima 6. Bjvrk - Homogenic 7. Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile 8. Nirvana - Nevermind 9. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream 10. Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Quite out of new discoveries lately :( Alessio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:00:47 EDT From: VioletLilith@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 10 favorite albums In a message dated 04/29/2003 8:27:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fakered@mchsi.com writes: > What ten or so artists (who are > not in your top ten) do you really enjoy that you think lots of people > don't know about (because, perhaps, you don't know anyone else who has > heard of them except people you've introduced to their music yourself)? > > some of these probably were listed on my *top ten favorite albums* list, but here i go: 1.) glampire.....simply delicious! some of you may know him if you have tori's tribute album *songs of the goddess*. he does *bliss* on it. he is one of the most intriguing, talented people i have ever known. please, please, please....look into his music at www.glampire.com 2.)miranda sex garden....one of my favorite bands. i don't think i listed them before, but *fairytale of slavery* and *carnival of souls* are two of my favorite albums, too. 3.) medieval babes.....spin off of miranda sex garden..... 4.) the glove....side project of robert smith(the cure).... 5.)the legendary pink dots/the tear garden....my favorite band(s), EVER! edward ka-spel is the male counterpart of tori for me. he is an amazing songwritter. the best songwritter! i recommend *9 lives to wonder* and *a crushed velvet apocalypse* by the dots and *tired eyes slowly burning* and *eye spy with my little eye*(new one) by the tear garden. music can't get much better, i tell you! exquisite!!!!! 6.)the grim faeries.....a local florida band. also aquaintances of mine. xtina x was a belly dancer on the *zoo* tour for U2. she also has performed with my life with the thrill kill kult. her husband and fellow band member, curse mackey, has performed with thrill kill, too, as well as evil mothers and pigface. they are fun. xtina is a master faerie wyng maker, too. check them out at www.grimfaeries.com.... 7.)julee cruise/angelo badalamenti......they did the soundtrack for *twin peaks* and *fire walk with me*. angelo has also worked on other soundtracks like *the blood oranges* and *the beach*. his music is great, and julee sings like an angel.... 8.)merge....one of the greatest EBM bands, i think..... 9.)milla jovovich.....most people know her as actress and model, but she has an album called *the divine comedy* that i have enjoyed since 8th grade (i'm now 22) which most people don't know about. it's good..... 10.)lamb......beautiful!!!! it's portishead meets bjork with drum-n-bass mixed in. they have been getting more recognition lately since *moulin rouge* (nicole sings part of *gorecki* in the film.....the songs that goes "if i should die this very moment......"). *6 feet under* also uses their music in some of their adds. please, look into them! and, also.... 11.)mother love bone.....a grunge band that was never too exposed. my favorite song in the world is by them....*chloe dancer*. i am sure many of you have heard of a lot of these people, but for those who haven't....go seek:) *peace, love, and glitter* ~jennifer~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:22:02 -0700 From: "Jenna Reasor" Subject: Re: Top 10 favorite albums actually i'd have to say Edie Carey--she's a singer/songwriter who isn't famous but is actually making a living off her music-- she is reALLY amazing, i'd say especially live. nevertheless, almost no one's heard of her (then again, maybe you have, i live in an eensey-weensy little town where most people don't even know who tori is...) so, this is my advertisement for the day, go check her out! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:26:45 EDT From: MaynardsSpiral@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 10 favorite albums In a message dated 4/28/2003 6:54:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, beanpie71@charter.net writes: > "and while we're on the subject of favorites and the like.. I wanna ask > something different that relates to it.. Which Tori album is your most > neglected, even if you love it to death? Which one is the one that visits > your stereo the LEAST? Mine is Under The Pink." err, ...to venus.... i hate to admit, the cd is amazing. but i still listen to it a lot just not as much as the others. little earthquakes is what i listen to the most!! =D (ok well its sorta tied with bfp and sw) shana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:40:18 EDT From: MaynardsSpiral@aol.com Subject: Top 10 favorite albums ok, well this is my top ten...but keep in mind...this kinda thing can change after awhile. and these are in no order. 1. A Perferfect Circle - Mer De Noms 2. Radiohead - The Bends 3. Radiohead - I Might be Wrong 4. Tori Amos - Boys For Pele 5. Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes 6. Tool - Opiate 7. Tool - Aenima 8. Tool - Lateralus 9. Cold - 13 ways to Bleed on Stage 10. Smashing Pumpkins -Melon Collie and the Infinate Sadness its hard to choose one cd from one band. Shana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:25:33 EDT From: Finney2567@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 10 favorite albums 1. Bjork --Vespertine 2. PJ Harvey --Is This Desire? 3. Tori Amos --Scarlet's Walk 4. Radiohead--Ok Computer 5. Sigur Ros --agftis byrjun 6. Flaming Lips--Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots' 7. PJ Harvey--Stories From the City, Stories from the Sea 8. Radiohead--The Bends 9. Beth Orton--I would mix a few of her songs I like onto one cd. 10. Bjork--Debut :p...This was interesting. Finney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:18:07 EDT From: Torisparta@aol.com Subject: (no subject) Here are some bands that I love and that other people don't know about: The Business Subhumans The Sharp Shooters Aquaducts Atari Stars Atom and His Package 7 Year Bitch Baboon Jawbreaker Sparta The Mars Volta Pet Nerfherder The Arsonists Galactic L7 Jurassic 5 Lard Angelo Badalamenti Peach The Rentals Skunk Anansie Strange Fruit Wheatus I know that that's WAY more than 10 or so, but why limit it to ten? By the way, am I the only one that believes that The Fragile is the most incredible and geniously written work of Trent Reznor? Amanda Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 01:51:45 EDT From: Linner317@aol.com Subject: the smashing pumpkins i am a LONG time "pumpkinhead" and a half-lifer toriphile (if you compare the ammount of time i spent involved w/ sp as opposed to tori) anyways. i'm glad to see some sp fans on this list. they were a wonderful band and got me thru high school. hehe. and tori...she just makes me melt...i can't answer the top ten album question. i just cant... ::whines:: however, the unknown bands i can say... dronen student driver buchanan sebastian a bach (no not the famous one...he's my friend who plays) sebastian's moon the bach's *note* sebastian happens to be in the last 2 "bands" but they all sound different i guess that's it for now..i would say ZWAN but they're not so "underground" anymore... hugs and pumpkins. peace linner out. -z- ps....is anyone going to any tori shows? i'd like a size med in the "pick out your cloud" shirt. i bought the wrong size in anaheim..i can pay for the shirt and for shipping and everything...just email me. thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 00:56:52 -0500 From: Andrea Norstad Subject: eclectic music list On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 12:20 AM, precious-things-digest wrote: > From: Toxic Witch > heard of before. So my question is this: What ten or so artists (who > are > not in your top ten) do you really enjoy that you think lots of people > don't know about (because, perhaps, you don't know anyone else who has > heard of them except people you've introduced to their music yourself)? heh. mine includes october project as well. i think more people on a mailinglist such as this will have heard of some of these artists, vs people i know in real life. so... october project/november project (because "endless circle" is one of the best songs ever even though the band never really happened.) katell keineg (kind of like a cross between pj harvey and jeff buckley. her first cd, "o seasons, o castles" is one of my favorites.) happy rhodes fetish (south african band, kind of like what i hear about evanesence, just a bit more lyrically intense and musically sparse.) all about eve maire brennan (a member of clannad, has done some very good solo stuff. imo.) miranda sex garden (defunct, several members started up mediaeval baebes, i recommend "suspiria" or "fairytales in slavery.") the moon seven times (they are so chill and guitar strummy and lovely.) interesting question. :) andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:24:43 +0000 From: "Stephanie Rae" Subject: Re: My Top Ten ok i HAVE to do mine. This is one of the most important questions someone could ever ask me. Musick is SO important. not in order...except the first one of course. Boys For Pele (is actually #1) Under the Pink Sarah McLachlan//Fumbling Towards Ecstasy Garbage//Garbage THC//Adagio Stabbing Westward//Wither Blister Burn + Peel Tool//Lateralus The Cure//Pornography or The Top Sneaker Pimps//Becoming X The collective Weezer adding: I could NOT live without any of my Tori collection. ANY of it! Boys for pele and under the pink are just the two most essential. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:10:35 -0400 From: noam tchotchke Subject: nola anybody make it to the final show? sounds like it was a fine one from the setlist (shamelessly stolen from the dent): Wampum Prayer a sorta fairytale Talula Sweet Sangria Cornflake Girl Scarlet's Walk Precious Things Hey Jupiter Wednesday Band Leaves Flying Dutchman Not The Red Baron Live To Tell Band returns Bells For Her Sweet Dreams Father Lucifer God Hotel I Can't See New York Iieee 1st Encore: Taxi Ride Pretty Good Year 2nd Encore: Tombigbee Tear In Your Hand 3rd Encore: Cooling (solo) Strange +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:19:15 -0700 (PDT) From: lou fauxbel Subject: Top Ten Hi, My Top Ten: Peter Gabriel- Security King Crimson- Discipline Adrian Belew- Lone Rhino Daniel Lanois- Acadie Genesis- A Trick of the Tail U2- Joshua Tree Lorenna McKennitt- The Mask and the Mirror Sarah McLachlin- Fumbling Towards Ecstasy The Who- Who's Next Talking Heads- Fear of Music All of Tori except Stange Little Girls and To Venus and Back would have made the top ten. Best Wishes, LOU ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:14:26 -0400 From: noam tchotchke Subject: times picayune interview (i don't think this article has been posted to the lists yet. if it was, mea culpa.... Tori Amos casts out her demons with a song Friday April 25, 2003 By Keith Spera Music writer At first glance, Tori Amos' recent "Scarlet's Walk" CD appears to address grander, more universal themes than her early work. The lyrics of her debut, "Little Earthquakes," could pass for pages torn from a diary; she unspooled her frequently painful, deeply personal thoughts and memories against dramatic soundscapes sketched by her voice and piano. In "Scarlet's Walk," the title character, a stand-in for Amos, embarks on an epic cross-country voyage of discovery. The events of Sept. 11 inspired "I Can't See New York"; Scarlet finds herself asking the big questions about why it happened, wondering if her government had somehow betrayed her. But she also engages in some classic Amos self-examination. "The only difference between this and 'Little Earthquakes' is that Scarlet reads 'The Guardian,' " Amos said during a recent phone interview, laughing. "(Around 'Little Earthquakes') she was too busy with her own little life. Which is fine -- that's what you do when you're 24. But hopefully, as you travel and you look at the world, you begin to know who you are. When you're almost 40, if you don't know that, you're really in bad shape." "Scarlet's Walk" gets personal when Scarlet arrives in Louisiana. Amos' ties to the state run deep. She has recorded parts of past albums in New Orleans with local musicians. She shot the artwork for "Boys For Pele" in and around Breaux Bridge; that's an authentic Breaux Bridge piglet nestled against Amos' chest in one memorable image. In "Taxi Ride," Amos sends Scarlet through Baton Rouge because Kevyn Aucoin, the famed make-up artist to the stars who died in 2002 from a brain tumor, lived there before moving to New York. He and Amos were friends; in Aucoin's book "FaceForward," he transforms Amos into Mary Queen of Scots. " 'Taxi Ride' is a story about a guy where his friends deserted him when he needed them," Amos said. "I felt like we wanted to go by where he is from, and I felt like it was important that it ended in New Orleans. One reason is I like New Orleans. The other reason is I couldn't leave Kevyn in Baton Rouge. It needed to pass by and sort of wave to him as a little boy, but it needed to have transcended and gone somewhere else, just like he did in his life. "And there's also a very thin veil in New Orleans between those who are walking in body and those who are walking in spirit. That veil is thinner (in New Orleans) than most places. It's not inconceivable that you walk with the dead hand in hand and feel like there is a way to somehow contact them." Amos' life changed after a painful process of rethinking who she was that started while she toured for her 1994 album "Under the Pink." The subsequent "Boys For Pele" documented the process. " 'Pele' was pivotal because it reflected a crisis time in my walk. You could listen to a woman in pain on 'Little Earthquakes' and it's not so difficult. But the walk didn't end there. The demons weren't really looked at yet. 'Pele' really was about where I was as a person. To become sovereign as a person, you have to descend and go visit the queen of the underworld. It was a dark night of the soul time. "I have a hard time listening to that record, listening to that woman, Tori, sing. Very hard. There is a lot of exorcism going on there. She's finding the demons within her being that she's projected onto other people and she's having to go and try to break some patterns. It's a stripping of flesh to get to the molecular structure of who she was." But without "Pele," Amos would not have been comfortable enough in her own skin to assume the characters on her album "Strange Little Girls." Nor could she have undertaken "Scarlet's Walk." "I wouldn't have known where I stood with myself to write this record," she said. "Scarlet is not a woman in pain; she's a woman who's questioning. If you're in complete pain, you can't do that. You're too busy trying to make it from one day to the next. You're trying to keep your mask on . . . which people in New Orleans know about." Amos comes to the Saenger Theatre Tuesday. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:17:49 -0400 From: noam tchotchke Subject: san antonio express-news concert preview/interview Amos' latest 'Walk' more of a meander By Jim Beal Jr. San Antonio Express-News Web Posted : 04/25/2003 12:00 AM Tori Amos' latest album is called "Scarlet's Walk." But a conversation with Amos jumps, slides, leaps and does everything but walk. "First of all, I kind of look at songwriting more as storytelling," Amos said from an Albuquerque tour stop. "Joseph Campbell is someone I studied. He was a mythologist. I look at archetypes. But you need to look at your work and know what you're doing or you can get into trouble. That doesn't mean the work is going to be warm and fuzzy or necessarily have a happy ending. "I'm a pretty disciplined character. I research a lot. If I'm going to write about someone drawn to the dark side, I need to know what they'll face in the underworld. I like creating bloodlines and word associations." Tonight Amos will be doing her creating and her associating during a concert at the Majestic Theater. Rhett Miller, doing his solo thing away from Old 97's, will open. Amos and her piano and vocals will be accompanied by Matt Chamberlain (drums) and Jon Evans (bass). "Scarlet's Walk" is the chronicle of one woman's journey. "She didn't mean to take the road trip; she just did," Amos said. "She's questioning what she believes. She was not taught in school about what she's finding out. She's developing her relationship with America." Amos' songs can be interpreted in different ways. "You've got to let people have their own experience with the work," she said. "You have to let people take a magic carpet ride. There's a lot going on." Those deep into Amos' work also can be deeply involved. The "Scarlet's Walk" CD includes technology that enables listeners to access Scarlet's Web site. Amos also is offering filmmaking fans the opportunity to create the video for her next single, "Taxi Ride." There's info at www.toriamos.com. "When people get involved, they take it to heart," Amos said. "As I get further into it, it's not just Scarlet's walk but Tori's walk and maybe other people will take their own walks. I feel there's a lot of spiritual manna here, a lot of strength here. In the industry you get so much editing that we want to see unedited stuff. We want to see what people are thinking. There's a lot of censoring going on and I thought I should let people see what people are thinking  unedited." So how does Amos view the writing and the performance of what she writes? "They're completely different skills or completely different messes, depending upon how you look at them," she said with a laugh. "In concert I'm just holding space for different characters to come through. Not all the characters are characters you'd like to take a long drive with, but some are characters you'd like to have a drink with and listen to for a while. I just shift myself and get Tori out of the way." These days, some music fans are looking for escape, some for help with their questions. "I see both happening at the same time," Amos said. "If you want to be truly powerful, that doesn't happen through the use of weapons. That comes through intellect and heart. Right now in the letters I'm getting people are expressing great concern about the information they're getting. And I'm hearing similar worries whether people come from a more conservative place or from a more liberal place. People feel they're not getting all the information." And Amos' solution? "We live in a time where we have the tools to turn over the stones. We have the Internet. We have libraries. But it takes gumption," she said. "You can talk yourself into a stewpot or you can become a supersleuth. You can also come to my concert. Spicy is spicy and I'm going to be spicy." _____________________________________________________________________ Tori Amos Where: Majestic Theater, 224 E. Houston St. When: 7:30 p.m. Friday Tickets: $33.50-$39.50 at Ticketmaster outlets For openers: Rhett Miller Old 97's spent most of last year doing next to nothing as a group, but front man Rhett Miller has been on the road almost nonstop since the release of his solo album, "The Instigator," last fall. The group's smart-alecky singer-songwriter with a broken heart of gold opens for Tori Amos tonight as a solo acoustic act. It sounds like a far cry from his band's revved-up, rocking alt-country, and like an impossible assignment  a guy and a guitar trying to win over Amos' faithful, some of the most devoted fans anywhere. But a report from a recent gig in Omaha suggests he's pulling it off. "Rocking out like an 8-year-old boy with a toy guitar," Omaha World-Herald staffer Christine Laue wrote, "Miller impressed fans and proved that acoustic acts are not always subdued." Robert Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:36:37 -0500 From: "*** Vicki ***" Subject: Re: Top 10 favorite albums >2.)miranda sex garden....one of my favorite bands. i don't think i >listed >them before, but *fairytale of slavery* and *carnival of souls* are >two of >my >favorite albums, too. OMG!!! I haven't even thought of Miranda Sex Garden in literally years! I haven't listened to my copy of Madra in soooo long. Now I have to go dig it out and "rediscover" them. :D >4.) the glove....side project of robert smith(the cure).... *sigh* Yet another album that has slipped out of my memory that I must now listen to:) >7.)julee cruise/angelo badalamenti......they did the soundtrack for >*twin >peaks* and *fire walk with me*. angelo has also worked on other > >soundtracks >like *the blood oranges* and *the beach*. his music is great, and >julee >sings >like an angel.... It is so hard to find others that enjoy, let alone have even heard of Julee. I admit I was completely obsessed with anything in relation to David Lynch back in high school. So I have the TP soundtracks and "floating into the night" album. I never got her "Voice of Love" album. I assume it is just as dark and heavenly as Floating though. All I can say is thank you to everyone who has listed some of their faves. I've come across a lot of old faves I haven't listened to in ages and have taken a few notes on some I'm not too familiar with, which is a blessing since new music lately has been leaving me high and dry :( "Even a genius can have an off day." - Wile E. Coyote http://www.livejournal.com/~cafenoir ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:54:43 -0500 From: "Melissa Olges" Subject: "under the radar" > What ten or so artists (who are not in your top ten) do you really enjoy > that you think lots of people don't know about (because, perhaps, you > don't know anyone else who has heard of them except people you've > introduced to their music yourself)? Obviously, Tori (even though she's on my list), although that's getting better since "Fairytale" is getting so much exposure. My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult Frente! Tom Waits Portishead Alkaline Trio Rammstein And these might be familiar to a lot of people, but either I think they're unfairly overlooked or forgotten -- especially by younger folks: Joni Mitchell (my husband and most of our friends have no idea who she is) Carole King (same here) The Pretenders Johnny Cash Bad Religion ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V8 #109 *************************************