From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V7 #222 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, September 26 2002 Volume 07 : Number 222 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Finally, UK Sorta Fairytale Single info for you! [shaman@eskimo.com] Re: Finally, UK Sorta Fairytale Single info for you! ["Mike Gray" ] ny press article [guapo stick ] ticketbastard! [ANMJenna@aol.com] tori in veinna [guapo stick ] Re: ny press article ["Lisa Zwick" ] womenwhorock [guapo stick ] Re: ny press article [Cyndi S Crawford ] RE: ny press article ["h." ] providence presale [guapo stick ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 04:00:27 -0700 From: shaman@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Finally, UK Sorta Fairytale Single info for you! On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:20:16 +0100, you wrote: > > > So they're doing the same thing that Atlantic did with the US >Choirgirl >> singles? Can someone please explain to me what the point is of releasing >a >> single with just two songs, then another single with those same two songs >> and one more? Is the first one going to be ultra-cheap? > >I have no clue, there's no sales info available yet, when there is, I'll be >letting everyone know via the usual channels! This is the first time I've >seen a UK release like this (it's usually like this in the US, and >occasionally in Australia) - I too think it's pretty pointless, and yet I'm >sure I'll be suckered into buying both. Let's hope it's not because there's >a lack of new B-Sides! > >> Do you know if there will be an Australian single? > >Yes, 1st November, I believe. I think www.chaosmusic.com has it listed as >that, and they're usually pretty reliable. This fits with the UK single on >October 28th... > >Mike It has to do with the categorization of sales. When a chart says that a song is a number #1 seller that only reflects the sales of a CD with only 2 tracks on it. # or more track is now considered an E.P. This happened several years ago. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:16:00 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Re: Finally, UK Sorta Fairytale Single info for you! Sorry, but this is simply not the case in the UK. To my knowledge, it's 3 songs as a maximum, plus an optional multi-media portion to be counted for the singles chart. Four or more *audio tracks* means it doesn't count for the singles chart. Both Tori singles will count for the UK singles chart. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Mike Gray" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Finally, UK Sorta Fairytale Single info for you! On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:20:16 +0100, you wrote: > > > So they're doing the same thing that Atlantic did with the US >Choirgirl >> singles? Can someone please explain to me what the point is of releasing >a >> single with just two songs, then another single with those same two songs >> and one more? Is the first one going to be ultra-cheap? > >I have no clue, there's no sales info available yet, when there is, I'll be >letting everyone know via the usual channels! This is the first time I've >seen a UK release like this (it's usually like this in the US, and >occasionally in Australia) - I too think it's pretty pointless, and yet I'm >sure I'll be suckered into buying both. Let's hope it's not because there's >a lack of new B-Sides! > >> Do you know if there will be an Australian single? > >Yes, 1st November, I believe. I think www.chaosmusic.com has it listed as >that, and they're usually pretty reliable. This fits with the UK single on >October 28th... > >Mike It has to do with the categorization of sales. When a chart says that a song is a number #1 seller that only reflects the sales of a CD with only 2 tracks on it. # or more track is now considered an E.P. This happened several years ago. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:48:43 -0400 From: ANMJenna@aol.com Subject: Fairfax Presale I just called ticketmaster, they said the presale for this show is TOMORROW 9/26 at 10am... lots of confusion on this date, eh? jenna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:53:49 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford Subject: Tori in Atlanta All right you guys, I've been prepared for the presale, EXCEPT for the fact that my mom (who was prepared as well cuz she knows how badly I've been wanting to go) woke me up and told me that the power went out, which would be a problem as far as ordering tickets online--so I told her to call Ticketmaster and I told her the presale password and I told her "one ticket." and she asked if I wanted tickets that were as close as possible to the stage, and I said "YES." anyway.. she bought 'em.. they're pretty close.. not front and center, but probably close enough for me to see Tori clearly.. but I'm not writing this to brag--I'm writing this to call out to other fellow Atlantan Toriphiles--particularly ones who've seen her in concert before--cuz I've never been to a concert before.. EVER! has Tori performed at Civic Center before, and heck, have you guys been to a show (not necessarily Tori) at the Civic Center? I'm so new to this that it freaking hurts. okay it's almost 2PM and I just woke up after falling back asleep from my mom waking me up for the presale.. and my brain is still foggy, so I'm very much afraid that I'm not making any sense.. but if anybody--not just the Atlantan EWF--can help me out here, I'd really appreciate it. :) Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:37:18 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: ny press article William S. Repsher And You Thought Mr. Roboto Was Bad Tori Amosgood witch or bad witch? Sprinkle the following fairy dust on your psyche and decide yourself. Promoting her new album, Scarlets Walk, which deals metaphorically with post 9/11 America, Amos had this to say to MTV News: "After the Twins went down, it was a time the masks were down for people, and people were asking questions that they haven't asked in a while. I was asking questions." Fair enough. According to MTV News, "Amos sings from the perspective of Scarlet Scarlet's Walk loosely traces Scarlet's path as she travels 3,000 miles to come to the aid of a friend, an aging porn star named Amber Waves. Her name is a metaphor for America, complete with its myths, misconception and sub-surface beauty." All right, now were getting into sophomore creative writing class. Just heard the skatepunk tearfully read his thinly-veiled narrative about an abusive father, and now we get the mousy, wild-eyed girl in a shawl telling us about an aging porn star named Amber Waves who represents so much more than that. Lets keep moving. Amos again, as Scarlet: "Events happen that make me question what I believe in and make me question what my country has been up to, and I start searching out answers: Who are the good guys? Because it doesn't seem like the ones that are calling themselves the good guys are doing the things I thought they were in the country's name." And heres where the tornado drops a house on Tori while the munchkins cower in the technicolor bushes. One of her most famous songs is "Me and a Gun," in which she details being raped, with lyrics like, "Yes I wore a slinky red thing/Does that mean I should spread/For you, your friends/Your father, Mr. Ed?" Well, to use Amos logic with her new album, the answer to that question is yes, Mr. Ed, unless she seeks to draw no comparison between the personal and political, which seems odd as thats her whole point in using metaphorical characters. But to use her mindset now, America was "asking for it" the same way she was by wearing "a slinky red thing"right? Substitute sexual imperialism for cultural, and that poor rapist who had a go at her was simply responding in the only way he knew how to years of intimidation and repression, the same way the terrorists did on 9/11. Sounds screwy? I hope youre nodding in agreement. If not, Tori Amos new album, Scarlet Walk, is in stores on Oct. 29! (09/24) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:46:54 EDT From: ANMJenna@aol.com Subject: ticketbastard! those f-ers told me that the tickets went on sale tomorrow at 10! turned out it was at like 2 or something today! i was going to be all ready and get perfect seats... damn. fuck ticketbastard! jenna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:50:57 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: tori in veinna stiller has posted on the forum that tori will be performing an exclusive session and interview at radiokulturhaus in vienna, austria on october 1st. radio station fm4 was giving away a limited number of tickets to listeners to attend the session, but i imagine they are all gone by now. it's not clear (my german is sketchy at best) whether this session will be broadcast live, broadcast at a later date or if it will be broadcast at all. it appears that some radiokulturhaus sessions are archived in streamable format (a nick cave session appears to be available), so perhaps the tori session will be made available as well. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:12:23 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: Re: ny press article Yikes!! Harsh words. Wonder how much of that is actually true.... - -Lisa - ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:29:47 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: womenwhorock womenwhorock magazine's website has been updated and now features the tori cover photo. bob gulla's article is not on the site yet, but they are running on contest (yes, another one!) to promote the record. the grand prize winner will receive a sony walkman, an autographed copy of scarlet's walk, and an autographed photo (presumably of tori). ten runners-up will receive a copy of the album and women who rock t-shirt. to enter, head over to: (and ignore the fact that they mistakenly say scarlet's walk is due to be released october 10th.) woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:46:12 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford Subject: Re: ny press article >Yikes!! Harsh words. Wonder how much of that is actually true....< probably next to none of it. I didn't begin to get what the hell they were saying so I breezed right through it. personally, I think people like them don't really deserve the ability to "get" Tori, **especially** if they're rude about it. Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:23:04 -0700 From: "h." Subject: RE: ny press article Lisa Zwick wrote: > Yikes!! Harsh words. Wonder how much of that is actually true.... > > > -Lisa > > ----- well, it's an opinion piece, not a collection of facts. the author also put words in tori's mouth, and made some outrageously insensitive "points." i steered it right to the trash bin. :D he's not a critic, and he's basing his piece around press -- he hasn't even heard the album yet. !!!! he just has an axe to grind. redstamen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:38:36 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: providence presale mysteriously, the providence show is now being listed on both ticketmaster.com *and* tickets.com. toriamos.com is still linking to the ticketmaster site for the presale purchasing. the two links are: https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=10035319996341B http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?agency=TDC&pid=5079962 since all of the other providence pac shows are being sold through tickets.com, i suspect that the real place for the presale will be tickets.com, but i don't know either way. if you're buying providence tickets, i recommend keeping an eye on both sites and hoping that at least one of them works. soon as we hear which one is working tomorrow, we'll post the details! woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V7 #222 *************************************