From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V7 #209 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, September 13 2002 Volume 07 : Number 209 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tori wallingford date [shaman@eskimo.com] Neil/SW update [Beth Winegarner ] chicago tori show [guapo stick ] Re: tori wallingford date - ticket onsale date [Kristopher Kelly ] RE: tori shows/recorders [ekrone1 ] RE: tori shows/recorders [Nadyne Mielke ] Towers Falling Improv MP3 here... ["Danielle Cipriano" ] the best seats? [KAvallon@perriergroup.com] Fw: the best seats? ["Tony Fernandes" ] Re: the best seats? [Richard Handal ] Re: Towers Falling Improv (was Re: Yahoo.com thing) [Brian K Tanaka ] Re: Fw: the best seats? [Brian K Tanaka ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:50:08 -0700 From: shaman@eskimo.com Subject: Re: tori wallingford date On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 00:15:19 -0700, you wrote: > >ctnow.com is now listing a show at the oakdale theater in wallingford, >connecticut on november 16th. the only additional information provided >is ticket prices, ranging from $28.50 to $38.50. there is nothing about >a sale date. > >http://entertainment.ctnow.com/top/1,1419,h-ctnow-Search-X!EventDetail-20939,00.html > >the oakdale website, tickets.com, and clear channel are not listing >this show yet. > >woj I went ahead and prepared the earswithfeet website to include some useful information and links fort his location. I already did the Atlanta date earlier on the day (while trying to eat dinner) but I still need to upload the newer page. I might just send it as is and add more links later. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:49:36 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: Neil/SW update "It's time to write something for Tori's Scarlet's Walk tour program booklet. (I'm being sent the CD glued into a glued-together Walkman. When I pointed out that I already had a copy of an early version of the album on CD, and that I wasn't really likely to leak it to the web, I learned that Everybody was getting their CDs like this, which made me smile. I was also warned not to follow the lead of someone I will not identify here [ I shall disguise his identity, to save him embarrassment, and will only identify him by his initials -- MC -- and say that he is a percussionist of great coolness and excellence]. Anyway, this unnamed person apparently decided to try and open the sealed Walkman and remove the glued-up CD, and managed to cut his hand quite badly in the process. So I shall not do this. Nor shall I go to plan B, Boil the Walkman. I shall just press the play button, and be happy. I'm really looking forward to hearing the whole story in finished form, and trying to decide what kind of thing to write. Diary entries, maybe. Or a sort of American Gods thing. Or something else. Ah well, I'll talk to her and we'll figure it out.)" Beth - -- "This country has a deep fear and mistrust of strong, smart, accomplished, outspoken women unless they are sexy 22-year-olds killing vampires on television." -- Dennis Miller _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ music reviews + stories + poetry + photography + collage + Watchers livejournal + selkies + esoterica + links = http://echoes.devin.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:55:55 -0700 From: guapo stick Subject: chicago tori show ticketmaster is now listing a show at the chicago theater in (wait for it...) chicago, illinois on november 27. show time is 7:30pm with tickets costing $30-40. on-sale date is saturday, october 12th at noon. https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=700352C84902BAB as per usual, there is no mention of this on the venue's website, http://www.capa.com/venues/chicago.html . woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:01:14 -0400 From: Kristopher Kelly Subject: Re: tori wallingford date - ticket onsale date Hello -- I just called their ticket line and they say on the recording that the show is at 7:30pm on the 16th of November. And that the ticket ON-SALE date is Saturday, September 21st @ 10am. - -Kristopher - ----- Original Message ----- From: guapo stick Date: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:15 am Subject: tori wallingford date > ctnow.com is now listing a show at the oakdale theater in wallingford, > connecticut on november 16th. the only additional information provided > is ticket prices, ranging from $28.50 to $38.50. there is nothing > abouta sale date. > > http://entertainment.ctnow.com/top/1,1419,h-ctnow-Search- > X!EventDetail-20939,00.html > > the oakdale website, tickets.com, and clear channel are not > listing > this show yet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:03:36 -0400 From: Kristopher Kelly Subject: Chicago date listed on ticketmaster! Hello! Ticketmaster has announced the Chicago date and venue -- Wednesday, 11/27/02 at 7:30pm at the Chicago Theatre. On sale 10/12/02 at 12pm!! - -Kristopher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:14:24 -0400 From: ekrone1 Subject: RE: tori shows/recorders Im sorry, could the place to discuss recordings please be reposted, I have a mini disc recorder now, and I would like to record the show when she comes around. I assume that tori uses the same sound people, or does she use who ever comes with the venue? It would be better to plug right into the sound there, but that probably won't happen, unless you can convince the sound guy to do it. Thanks E ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:25:06 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: RE: tori shows/recorders At 11:14 12-09-02 -0400, ekrone1 wrote: >Im sorry, could the place to discuss recordings please be reposted, I have a >mini disc recorder now, and I would like to record the show when she comes >around. The mailing list for recording Tori's tour is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigiTori/ >I assume that tori uses the same sound people, or does she use who >ever comes with the venue? It would be better to plug right into the sound >there, but that probably won't happen, unless you can convince the sound guy >to do it. What you're talking about here is called a soundboard recording. If we could get those, I wouldn't need to have a DigiTori mailing list. Tori does not allow recording of her concerts, so you have to sneak your equipment in. She definitely uses her own sound people. One of them is her husband. Go on, ask him if you can record, see what happens. ;) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:28:25 -0400 From: "Danielle Cipriano" Subject: Towers Falling Improv MP3 here... It was before Rattlesnakes in West Palm Beach FL You can get an MP3 at hereinmyhead.com The url is: http://hereinmyhead.com/sounds/slg.html The song is @: http://hereinmyhead.oneway.com/SometimesThingsBreak_092801.mp3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:58:52 -0700 From: guapo stick Subject: tori in columbus, ohio thanks also to molly who e-mailed us as well! the link to the ticketmaster page is https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=500352CB4385341 >From: "Shai girl" >Subject: Columbus Date! >Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:36:07 -0500 > >After I read the bit about the Chicago date, I followed the link to ticketmaster.com which is now also showing a Columbus date! > >Palace Theatre Columbus >Columbus, OH >Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:00PM >$35.00 > >Internet Public Sale: Sat Oct 12, 10:00AM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:17:53 -0400 From: KAvallon@perriergroup.com Subject: the best seats? what is the best way to get tickets for these shows? what is the best way to get the best seats? should wait outside at the venue the day they go on sale? buy them online? or call them to purchase over the phone? I need some advice on this if anyone can help. thanks kimba ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:18:03 -0700 From: "Tony Fernandes" Subject: Fw: the best seats? From: , AKA "Kimba", wrote: "what is the best way to get tickets for these shows? what is the best way to get the best seats? should wait outside at the venue the day they go on sale? buy them online? or call them to purchase over the phone? I need some advice on this if anyone can help. thanks kimba" I don't know, but last year we were given a special password to buy tickets online at an earlier date than the "public" on sale dates. The seats were, in some cases, better than what you would ordinarily get if you waited for the public date. Anyone know of something like that for this tour?? Tony What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:39:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: the best seats? Kimba axed: > what is the best way to get tickets for these shows? As with working a meet and greet, there are no certain methods, or even rules of thumb, that result in sure success which are narrow enough to list them as unmistakenly being "the way." One must use one's wits as available and be empirical about it--that is to say, do whatever works. Wanna give me a reason to not work the phone and the internet at the same time and see what one comes up with? Happy with what's offered? Buy it. Not happy? Don't buy it. Repeat at every ticket buying opportunity until one is happy. Otherwise, buy something one isn't, in a utopian sense, pleased with, and be prepared to settle for that ticket if one can't sell it when one's ideal ticket might later present itself. Other than when dealing with street scalpers when one can walk back and forth between them to see what they all have, it's almost always a binary system. One is not typically presented at a single purchase opportunity with the ability to choose between multiple tickets. That is true for both an online ticket purchase for a concert that's going to sell well the minute it's on sale, and also for a similar phone purchase scenario. Will other seats be released later after initial sale? More than once. Will you happen to catch any of those times and be able to buy the better seats before someone else does? Will it rain in St. Louis on March 29, 2005? Prepare thyself by bringing an umbrella or by being ready to risk getting wet. I've attended more concerts than I'll admit here and I feel I'm reasonably savvy about the process, and I *still* can't reliably get really good seats at a given concert. (I certainly have no overall basis on which to complain, though. I have most humbly been blessed well beyond the wet dreams of all but the most obsessive and deranged concert-goer.) Anyone looking for any of this stuff to be able to be pinned down and who doesn't do the work to find out what they can about it by reading VOLUMINOUS amounts of the experiences of others on the Dent concert review links is kidding themselves and not maximizing their potential. Would you expect someone to be able to usefully explain to you over five minutes in A, B, C fashion how to drive a car to the point where you could expect to sit in one and just do it well the first time? God, I hope not. I've shared my knowledge many times in private mail, but there are no tried and true methods leading to sure success. If there were, everyone would always do whatever that was and everyone would get the best seats and be up front at meet and greets. By definition, everyone *can't* get the best seats and be up front at meet and greets. More people are going to not be happy than will on each given occasion and that simply is how the numbers are always going to play out; unless anyone can come up with a way to turn back the clock to how meet and greets were in early 1996 and before when she would talk with every person at each venue. The sooner folks get used to the idea that there is no magic method for this stuff the happier we'll all be. I'm getting a headache, and she has red hair and Manolo Blahniks. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. Education: That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding. --Ambrose Bierce, writer (1842-1914) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:14:10 -0700 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: Towers Falling Improv (was Re: Yahoo.com thing) shaman@eskimo.com typed the following words: > > >That improv has a lot of meaning and weight for me. Sometimes I can > >hardly listen to it; it wrecks me every time. ... > >language, it boggles my mind that this was an improv. (It *was* an > >improv, right folks?) > > I suspect she had time to think about it first. > About what she wanted to say and all that. But do you think she *composed* it first, or did the specific words flow spontaneously from the general idea? I choose to believe the latter because it feels that way to me, it's far from the realm of possibility, and it's so much cooler that way! > When in the performance was it? I don't > remember seeing it mentioned as part of > any set list so it's hard to guess but I can > look it up if you don't know. It's right before Rattlesnakes. On the TOMB version, it's broken out as a separate two minute and sixteen second track and the cover art on http://toriscans.inmyhead.net/ reflects that. Hey! Now see what you've done? In researching that I played it and now I'm like Superman with a fistful of Kryptonite! I'll get you for this, Shaman! ;-) - -- - -- -bt - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:59:30 -0400 From: "Chris "Chopper" Chopp" Subject: Atlanta Show on pollstar Hey All! Pollstar is now listing the Atlanta Civic Show on their website. http://www.pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Artist&Content=Tori+Amos&StartSearch.x=29&StartSearch.y=4 Peace, Love and Bunnies Chopper ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:17:48 -0700 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: Neil/SW update Beth Winegarner typed the following words (quoting Neil Gaiman): > ... > maybe. Or a sort of American Gods thing. Or something else. Ah well, I'll ... That would be cool. I can picture it now. Scarlet is joined mid-journey by Shadow and Mr. Wednesday... ;-) - -- - -- -bt - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:31:54 -0700 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: Fw: the best seats? Tony Fernandes typed the following words: > I don't know, but last year we were given a special password to buy tickets > online at an earlier date than the "public" on sale dates. The seats were, > in some cases, better than what you would ordinarily get if you waited for > the public date. > > Anyone know of something like that for this tour?? I don't know if anyone knows one way or the other yet, but I'd be surprised if it didn't happen given that the "ticketmaster internet pre-sale" thing is pretty common these days. - -- - -- -bt - -- ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V7 #209 *************************************