From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V7 #150 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, July 10 2002 Volume 07 : Number 150 Today's Subjects: ----------------- A sorta Fairy Tale... [ToriphileMaria@aol.com] FW: "a sorta fairytale" mp3 is now up ["trent, useless at Scrabble" ] "A Sorta Fairytale" Lyrics ["trent, useless at Scrabble" ] Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... [Cyndi S Crawford ] A Sorta Fairytale ["Jennifer Teapot" ] A Sorta Fairytale 2 ["Jennifer Teapot" ] Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... [Richard Handal ] A Sorta Fairytale ["Beth :~P" ] Re: A Sorta Fairytale ["Mark Harbott" ] a sotra fairytale........ ["trent, useless at Scrabble" ] Re: Fairytale [Cyndi S Crawford ] fairytale mp3 [Rayzengirl@aol.com] Fw: A sorta Fairy Tale... ["Tony Fernandes" ] Re: los angeles times mentions scarlet walk [mysterilady2001@] Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... ["Missy" ] Re: "A Sorta Fairytale" Lyrics [myth@31flavours.com] RE: "A Sorta Fairytale" Lyrics / Cloud on my Tongue parallel? ["Pete Lamb] Re: Fairytale ["Lisa Zwick" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 01:27:40 EDT From: ToriphileMaria@aol.com Subject: A sorta Fairy Tale... Thanks to lovely peepz on the forum, I now have a copy of this song.... Im not terribly impressed by it, but Im sure it will grow on me. What do you all think?? ~~Maria Trading Website: http://www.auburn.edu/~aguirmg ******************************************************** "A life unexamined is not worth living." - -Socrates ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:32:05 -0400 From: "trent, useless at Scrabble" Subject: FW: "a sorta fairytale" mp3 is now up I only forward this info for those ravenous EWF don't shoot the messenger trent http://www.franklet.com/tori_amos_a_sorta_fairytale.mp3 - -----Original Message----- From: XxUnprodigalBoi@aol.com [mailto:XxUnprodigalBoi@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:22 AM To: alanisrocks@yahoogroups.com Subject: $AlanisRocks$ a sorta fairytale mp3 is now up im dling a sorta fairytale now-- tori's first and new single off the new album "scarlet's walk" so if u wanna go dl it or listen to it..go here @forums - for those ready to be spoiled...i bring you.... a sorta fairytale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:09:17 -0700 (PDT) From: cisco Subject: Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... Oh my god, I love it! I can't believe it's new Tori. Her voice is nicely on display on this song. Damn. Anyway, I've been reading all this stuff about the album being in the works for the last three years, then I read that it was entirely written after Sept. 11. What's the deal? Diana - --- ToriphileMaria@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks to lovely peepz on the forum, I now have a > copy of this song.... Im > not terribly impressed by it, but Im sure it will > grow on me. What do you > all think?? > > ~~Maria ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 03:45:05 -0400 From: "trent, useless at Scrabble" Subject: "A Sorta Fairytale" Lyrics Here is my stab at the lyrics for the new song.....the question marks are for words I cannot make out..... :) trent _____________________________ On my way up north Up on the Ventura I put back the hood And I was talkin to you And I knew that it would be a lifelong thing But I didn't know that we, we could break a silver lining And I am so set/sad (?) Like a good book I can't put this (?) back A sorta fairytale with you (A sorta fairytale with you) A sorta fairytale with you Things you said that day Up on the 101 The girl come undone I tried to downplay it With a bit about us You said you'd take it as long as I could I could not erase it And I am so set/sad (?) Like a good book I can't put this (?) back A sorta fairytale with you (A sorta fairytale with you) A sorta fairytale with you And I ride alongside And I rode alongside you then And I rode alongside Til you lost me there in the open road And I rode alongside Til my honey spread It took til then For me to break your bread For me to take your wood (?) and to steal it Way up north I took my day All in all was a pretty nice day and I I put the hood right back where You could taste heaven perfectly Feel out the summer breeze Didn't know when we'd be back and I I know I didn't think we'd end up like this And I am so set/sad (?) Like a good book I can't put this (?) back A sorta fairytale with you (A sorta fairytale with you) A sorta fairytale with you A sorta fairytale with you I could pick back up whenever I feel A sorta fairytale with you A sorta fairytale with you A sorta fairytale with you I could pick back up whenever I feel A sorta fairytale with you ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 03:44:53 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Clark" Subject: Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... I find this song absolutely incredible, and above all my expectations (which admittedly weren't very high, as I'm one of the fans that despises SLG). If this is any indication of how the rest of the album's going to be... I cannot wait. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:16:49 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford Subject: Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... >...I've been reading all this stuff about the album being in the works for the last three years, then I read that it was entirely written after Sept. 11. What's the deal?< I imagine that she had something in the works.. and then after 9/11, had a sudden burst of inspiration to start over because, as she might put it, the songs came *TEARING* across the universe faster than before to get to her. Sometimes an artist will write and record a great song that people will respond to by saying "that's GOT to go on the album! You're crazy if you don't put it on the album!" and then they'll throw that song away and write another, better song to take its place. That could be what happened. Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ *or* http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:24:00 +0000 From: "Jennifer Teapot" Subject: A Sorta Fairytale Does anyone know where I can find an mp3 of the song? The frankfurt link doesn't work anymore and from what I've heard, it sounds like an interesting song. Any help would be much appreciated. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NP: Silverchair - Neon Ballroom Visit: http://datura.notsweet.net Read: http://fireandwater.diaryland.com "and so it goes, go round again but now and then we wonder who the real men are" [Tori Amos - Real Men] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:10:12 +0000 From: "Jennifer Teapot" Subject: A Sorta Fairytale 2 Well, after hearing the song I have to say, I'm hopeful about the rest of the album. Everybody has got to expect songs to be on there that other people aren't going to like etc. I like A Sorta Fairytale. It's sweet and simple. I, personally think the song's about her relationship with her husband and / or daughter, but that's just what I get from it. Any other suggestions? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NP: Tori Amos - A Sorta Fairytale Visit: http://datura.notsweet.net Read: http://fireandwater.diaryland.com "and so it goes, go round again but now and then we wonder who the real men are" [Tori Amos - Real Men] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:42:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... Hello, All, I was able to hear it. Thanks to all who helped get that out. It very much hit the spot, especially coming when it did. The last weeks have been trying ones, mainly because a lot of friends were going through a bunch of personal situations that put a strain on me, including my best friend who fell down many stairs and has only in the last few days been able to usefully hobble around on crutches. It was making me out of my mind. Hearing this song has enhanced my sense of release and relief that my friend's getting much better. Anyway, I enjoy listening to this song a great deal but find it ultimately not to have much deep content, musical or otherwise. It sure is hooky, though. I enjoy the sound of it; it sounds a lot like the Venus tracks in that it has a rounded sound. It has Mark and Marcel written all over it. There's no variance in tempo and the piano is exceedingly simple, but I like the airy, open feel it has. It's great to listen to. It goes right in, as they say. I love the sound of the layered vocals. I find Matt to be a bit automaton-like in his playing on it, but it does flow like crazy. I find the guitar especially uninspired. I miss Steve, bigtime. :-/ Steve would have had a lot more (and interesting ) variance in tone in the guitars. Some of the voicings on the piano remind me of Hornsby. Weird. They're looking to push the hell out of this album and I understand the next single is even simpler in nature. I expect more challenging songs on the album, though. I don't mean to come off sounding negative, as I do like this song a great deal. I'm not going to gush if I don't feel it. I hope everyone associated with it has great success. Namaste. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:25:16 -0400 From: "Beth :~P" Subject: A Sorta Fairytale Need A Sorta Fairytale? Check here: http://pages.cthome.net/little-blue-world/Fairytale.mp3 peace, beth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:45:48 -0600 From: "Mark Harbott" Subject: Re: A Sorta Fairytale Hey all mmm, I don't know what to think about this song. I mean it sounds like Tori in that her voice is there, but the rest, well, sounds kind of generic. I think that this is probably the first time that I have heard an original song of hers that I think would also sound good if any of a whole bunch of other singer-songwriters had sung it. It just doesn't seem to fit her...if that makes any sense at all. I am not saying that I don't like it, but I don't know if it's a song of hers that I will be able to listen to on repeat like I can do with most of them. I guess we also have to remember that this is the first single so it's going to try to be more radio friendly. I agree with Richard totally though that this song is exceedingly simple musically and lyrically, but that overall it sounds good. I think too that the content on the rest of the album is going to be as challenging as we have come to expect from her. Later Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:21:41 -0400 From: "trent, useless at Scrabble" Subject: a sotra fairytale........ I have to say that I am 10,000,000,000 times more excited about this song and the upcoming album than I was at all for "Strange Little Girls". Regardless of what you think about the song at least it is an original tori song..........and that says alot :) t ___ "there was me, that is tony, and my droog, that is trent. and we sat in the korova kylie-bar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. the korova kylie-bar sold kylie-plus, kylie-plus-vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. this is what would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ULTRA-KYLIE... " - --Tony Cusumano inspired by Anthony Burgess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:21:16 -0400 From: toriliscious@cs.com Subject: Fairytale I like it. However, it sure is catchy. And Tori, well, she's just not usually that,... catchy. One thing I've noticed over the years is that Tori's not using metaphors as much anymore.. I mean, compare the metaphorical content of BfP to ANYTHING she's done recently!! What up wit dat?? I'm sure it's psychologically explained by something along the lines of her being more comfortable with her feelings, not having such 'petty' problems (in the grand scheme of things, boy probs are kinda petty after you get married and have a kid n stuff) and, well, does anyone have any other ideas? Stuff, Micah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:55:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Fairytale Micah said: > I like it. However, it sure is catchy. Interesting phrasing. "However," it is catchy. Catchy is fine, isn't it? :-) > One thing I've noticed over the years is that Tori's not using metaphors > as much anymore.. I mean, compare the metaphorical content of BfP to > ANYTHING she's done recently!! Oh, there's a fair bit of metaphor and archetypal content on choirgirl and Venus. Not as much as Pele, though, you're correct. Pele is always going to be a special case, I believe. Although I wouldn't want to revisit that place on a new album, it was astonishing, wasn't it? > I'm sure it's psychologically explained by something along the lines of > her being more comfortable with her feelings, not having such 'petty' > problems (in the grand scheme of things, boy probs are kinda petty after > you get married and have a kid n stuff) and, well, does anyone have any > other ideas? Probably many reasons. She's constantly evolving as an artist. Not only as a composer but as a player and performer. I find it endlessly fascinating to follow it. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:36:50 -0400 From: Cyndi S Crawford Subject: Re: Fairytale >....compare the metaphorical content of BfP to ANYTHING she's done recently!!< Don't forget the musical styles too!! my parents neither one could stand the "jazz" of BfP but my mom, at least, enjoys a few of Tori's other songs.. like Bliss and 1000 Oceans.. and Crucify.. >What up wit dat??< she's grown up, is my guess.. the girl is gonna be THIRTY-NINE this year!!! -_-; *panic* >I'm sure it's psychologically explained by something along the lines of her being more comfortable with her feelings, not having such 'petty' problems (in the grand scheme of things, boy probs are kinda petty after you get married and have a kid n stuff) and, well, does anyone have any other ideas?< Like Richard said.. a good artist (writer, performer, etc etc) *is* always constantly evolving.. that's my best bet as well.. but Tori, I think, has also matured a lot in the last ten years from LE to UTP to BfP to FTCH to TVAB and SLG, and now Scarlet's Walk. (I haven't listened to the mp3 of Fairytale yet but I will give my review of it *as* I listen to it later today.) So.... well.. she done growed up! plus, I'm more than POSITIVE that having a child (something she wanted so bad and had to fight through THREE--count 'em, THREE--MISCARRIAGES to get) really changed her life and perspective on so many things (like all the "petty" problems she used to have for example.).. it happens to every last one of us. Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM) http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ *or* http://www.icenine.org/cyndi/ Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:27:58 EDT From: Rayzengirl@aol.com Subject: fairytale mp3 where are you guys downloading this song? i simply must get my hands on it! thanks, Windy~Sky - ----------------------- - --------------- "I understand my art form. I'm comfortable with what I do." - -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:49:09 -0700 From: "Tony Fernandes" Subject: Fw: A sorta Fairy Tale... - ----- Original Message ----- written by: "Jeffrey Clark" ayukawa@twcny.rr.com "I find this song absolutely incredible, and above all my expectations (which admittedly weren't very high, as I'm one of the fans that despises SLG). If this is any indication of how the rest of the album's going to be... I cannot wait." Ditto!! My expectations were fairly low as well, but my hopes were higher than ever...if that makes sense. As a LONG time Tori fan I also thought SLG was one of those things I wish would disappear. I am very greatful to hear new music, written by Tori, no matter what the genre is. I'm extremely excited about the new album and the tour!!! Tony What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 17:02:31 -0400 From: mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Re: los angeles times mentions scarlet walk Hi ya EWF ~ MysT here. Yeah, I'm still around. I moved finally. I'm in the UK now. Midlands, Cotswolds, Woodchester to be exact. It's lovely here; very clean, very green, fresh air, nice people. I'm liking it very much. Recovering just fine after the move & flight. I'm happy with my new hubby & kids. OK, moving on to Tori. I have a thought about the following previous post: >>interesting idea. eastbound. the tour was westbound. maybe scarlet is going towards new york city from the rest of the country?<< Just after Sept. 11 T was to be in New York City for the big SLG signing in Times Square. She had a flight booked but no planes were flying. She & Mark drove themselves to New York City from Florida. Mind you, it isn't west, but it IS a cross country trek. Imagine Mark driving and T sitting besides him. What they would have been doing is listening to the radio accounts of the terrorist attacks aftermath. I very much believe she could have written a bit during that trip, or at least the experience could have sparked the idea for Scarlet's Walk. I believe what happened on that tragic day got in under all of our skins, affected us, changed the reality of our world, never to be the same. I've also been waiting near 2 years to see what affect motherhood has had on her writing as well. I'm greatly anticipating this album. Hope everyone is well Toodles ~ MysT *** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:02:04 -0700 From: "Missy" Subject: Re: A sorta Fairy Tale... I agree...this song is amazing. It surpassed my expectations as well. =] I really like how her voice is so clear, and the song is simple, but it's nice because they didn't go crazy with the special effects. Granted, it's not the most complex thing I have heard..but it's still good. JediEmpressMel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:03:24 -0400 From: myth@31flavours.com Subject: Re: "A Sorta Fairytale" Lyrics On 9 Jul 2002 at 3:45, trent, useless at Scrabble wrote: > Til my honey spread > It took til then > For me to break your bread > For me to take your wood (?) and to steal it right here I'm hearing "til my honey spread itself too thin for me to break your bread for me to take your wood I'd have to steal it" I interpret this as she ran out of feeling for him, so she couldn't take his body [bread] or fire/passion [wood] anymore as a mutual exchange. She has nothing left to give so if she takes something from him it would be stealing. But that's just me. ;) ~julie ..................................................................... .: go then, there are other worlds than this :. http://glasseye.theultramind.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:54:35 +0100 From: "Pete Lambert" Subject: RE: "A Sorta Fairytale" Lyrics / Cloud on my Tongue parallel? > Here is my stab at the lyrics for the new song..... Thanks for these Trent, really helpful at a first listen. My guess for one of your (?)s is "I can't put this tear back" for the start of the chorus. Any one else hear different? And remember the excellent discussion here a few weeks ago about Cloud on my Tongue? Someone commented that "leave the wood outside" could be thanking someone for showing an interest, and needing to feel that interest, whilst still wanting to stay in the 'kitchen' of a safe but not-quite-fullfilling-enough relationship. Ties in nicely with: > It took til then > For me to break your bread > For me to take your wood (?) and to steal it (or 'seal it'?) ...if that's the same metaphor being followed perhaps? Just a thought there. And what a gorgeous song. Pete x ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:59:22 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: Re: Fairytale Well, it was torture reading everyone's emails at work about the song and not being able to hear it. I just d/led it and wow...I love it. Now it's gonna be even worse torture waiting for the cd to come out... - -Lisa ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V7 #150 *************************************