From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V7 #14 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, January 18 2002 Volume 07 : Number 014 Today's Subjects: ----------------- expressing distate: Helden's remix of P.W [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: Article about CDs computers can't play [JNe9027355@aol.com] grammy [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: Article about CDs computers can't play [Richard Handal Mr. Pegoraro seems not to have heard what we have--that Tori Amos's > Strange Little Girls was released by Atlantic in September with some form > of this technology, and that there has been at least one lawsuit brought > as a result--but his article well explains the issues involved with doing > this of which the myopic record industry seems blissfully unaware. > > Be seeing you, > > Richard Handal, H.G. > Richard, why do you consider the industry myopic? AJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:23:14 EST From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: grammy In a message dated 12/21/2001 12:08:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, JNe9027355 writes: > > 13 - Raspberry Swirl (bet they forget that they never released it) > > It was double A-sided with Cruel. Nominated for a Grammy. It'll > definitely be on there. > what category was this nominated in?? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:22:57 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Article about CDs computers can't play AJ asked: > Richard, why do you consider the industry myopic? I think Mike Gray said it best in an article on this copy-protection topic. He sent me this article [below] in private mail and suggested the other day that I repost it to the list if I wanted. They're pissing off people who buy CDs and have trouble playing them in their computers, and they're even pissing off their own artists by doing this to releases of *their* CDs without even informing them. (Mike recently interviewed Heather Nova and she was pretty upset about this having been done to her German CDs.) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. _____________________________________________________________________ Attached is an article I wrote on this very subject recently for my university paper - my favourite link on this subject is: http://www.fatchucks.com/corruptcds/corrupt.html A subject I feel somewhat strongly about! Take care, Mike """"""""""""""""""""""""""" CD Copy Protection November 5th this year was infamous for a new reason, as it marked the release by BMG of the first copy protected audio CD in the UK, that CD being "White Lillies Island" by Natalie Imbruglia. The reason for protection on CDs is to avoid the"ripping" of CDs to MP3 files which can be freely distributed on the Internet. Sounds fair enough, doesn't it? But there's a catch. The protected CDs won't play on a computer, and that's big news for students who don't have a stand alone CD player with them. It means that you could buy a CD and find it quite literally useless. To protect the CD, its Table of Contents (the "index" if you will) is deliberately corrupted, meaning that the disc fails to meet the red-book standards laid down when the CD format was defined, and thus no guarantee of compatibility with any equipment can be made. There was a twist to the Imbruglia story, however. Computer users who expected it not to work found that actually they could play it on their computers, as the manufacturer had put a program on which, believe it or not, played a large, encrypted MP3 file from the CD, however the quality was much lower than a standard audio CD. So not only was Miss Imbruglia "torn", she was also fashionably "pre-ripped", and it was soon realised that you could simply copy this data file and player to a blank CD and create a copy. Not only that, the MP3s of the CD were already on the Internet before the CD was released, as they had cleverly omitted to protect promotional copies. On November 20th, BMG realised the backlash they had created was doing them harm and offered to replace all "protected" copies with standard copies for free. All we can hope is that they've seen the error of their ways and that people who are actually buying CDs are not the ones who they should be punishing. Mike Gray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:57:52 EST From: ToriphileMaria@aol.com Subject: Request for M&G pics to use in Artwork Design Hello everyone, I have a small request: if you have any m&g pics from this tour, Lin would like to use them for her beautiful artwork designs. Contact her at: linda@lin-design.net. Thanks in advance! ~~Maria Wanna Trade? http://www.auburn.edu/~aguirmg ************************************************** "Chastity... the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions." - A. Huxley. ************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:10:09 -0600 From: "mr zebra" Subject: Re: expressing distate: Helden's remix of P.W > this mix pisses me off, it just butchered the song. That's what remixes do. > i go to raves often, and it just appalls me to see > how everyone thinks it's the greatest thing when a > dj drops it because it has so many dancey beats. That's usually the purpose of dance mixes. To encourage dancing. :-P > I just can't understand why he did so many minutes > of the same, reptitive, crap. It's actually quite good. Repetitive yes. But some ppl don't have a problem with that. Plus, it's got an insanely good bassline. > Good remixes usually enhance or isolate > good parts of the songs "it's gotta be big" and "honey, bring it close to my lips" aren't good parts of PW? The Star Trunk Funkin mix is purely fun. Nothing more. It takes the sexual issues out of the song and makes them blatant. I understand what you're saying. But some people like simple, fun, repetitive dance music. I personally prefer a darker, more progressive blend of house and trance, but Armand's PW mix is an anthem. And IMO has the quality to back it up. matthew. is neither a star, nor a trunk, nor funkin. discuss. in the battle of time, in the battle of will it's only your hope and your heart that gets killed. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V7 #14 ************************************