From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #236 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, November 30 2001 Volume 06 : Number 236 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: TA:GHV1 ["mr zebra" ] re: Greatest Hits~ [strange little woj ] RE: TA:GHV1 ["Pete Lambert" ] Re: TA:GHV1 ["mr zebra" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:11:19 -0600 From: "mr zebra" Subject: Re: TA:GHV1 I'm going to assume that all your chart positions and single release information is based on UK releases because a lot of it is inaccurate otherwise. > 2 - Winter (top 30 but got lots of airplay - lots of people who only like > tori a bit like this a lot) Yah. It was the first Tori song I really KNEW. A friend and I were going to perform it at a student concert, but we didn't have time to rehearse. > 10 - Hey Jupiter (dakota) (top 30 when double A sided with Pro Widow Remix) Double A-sided? They both had seperate singles. Pro Wid had 2 different remix singles, actually. > 13 - Raspberry Swirl (bet they forget that they never released it) It was double A-sided with Cruel. Nominated for a Grammy. It'll definitely be on there. > [FWIW China, God and Glory didnt make the top 40, God was Tori's only #1 on the modern rock charts. It'll be on there for sure. Not to mention it pretty much sums up her religious ideas pretty well. > and Jackie, Bliss and 1000 Oceans were all rumoured or announced > as singles but never released; They certainly were. Bliss and Oceans both had 2 singles, 2 track and maxi 3 track. > "Blue Skies" with BT got to number 20-something over here It was a #1 club track. But it might not be on there since it's not technically a "Tori track" and they probably don't have the rights to it anyway since BT was on an indie label at the time. > > **Question 2. - What WON'T make the cut but you wish would? SIREN SIREN SIREN. matthew. I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face. I dreamt tomorrow would have better things to say than, "You look like shit, what's your problem, bitch?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:24:04 -0500 From: strange little woj Subject: re: Greatest Hits~ when we last left our heroes, Mike Gray exclaimed: >The thing is that I don't see Atlantic having the material to do >that with Tori's stuff - perhaps in the US where some B-Sides were never >released, but in the UK I *think* bar a couple of mixes and a couple of >Choirgirl Era B-Sides, we've had all the B-Sides (certainly up to Pele) - I that may be true, but i still think there is value in a comprehensive b-side collection, even if it does not contain any unreleased material. not many of the b-sides are readily available these days. somebody who has been following tori since 1992 will certainly have most, if not all, all of the singles and fans who have the time and money to track them down will have many as well...but there are still enough people who don't have any but the most common ones. a collection could also be valuable to someone who has most/all singles as well since they'd be all in one place instead of on twenty-some cds. yeah, one could burn one's own collection, but i, for one, would rather buy a pressed cd than make my own (i haven't yet!). personally, i'd prefer atlantic release that (or even re-release y kant tori read) before they do a greatest hits package (which i certainly won't buy without any unreleased material), but it seems that decision has already been made.... woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:41:58 -0000 From: "Pete Lambert" Subject: RE: TA:GHV1 Matthew said: > I'm going to assume that all your chart positions and single release > information is based on UK releases because a lot of it is inaccurate > otherwise. Umm, [raises hand and coughs politely] like I said... >>*if* it were UK based So it's all true, honest! We have our own limey charts and everything over here now ;o) > Double A-sided? They both had seperate singles. Pro Wid had 2 > different remix singles, actually. Here the BFP releases were: CALS; Talula (tornado mix); then Hey Jupiter (Dakota) with Pro Widow (Armand's...) as the "AA" track, which got loads of club play through 96 and so they re-released it as "Professional Widow (It's Gotta Be Big)" on it's own the first week of January 97, when it went straight in to the chart at number 1. It took lots of nagging from record shops to get the track re-released, and even then it was only after "Blue Skies" had been a moderate chart hit (I think it got to the low teens on the main sale chart) and maybe convinced them that a Tori dance track could be a success on it's own. The US import version of Pro Widow was being stocked by most record shops towards the end of 96 and people called "The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" nicked the backing track from Armand's remix and replaced the Tori vocals with Lisa Stansfield's early 90s-ish UK hit "People Hold On". Only then did East West (the UK branch of Atlantic) *finally* got their act together and re-release it... And it'll be hard for you Americans to believe, but back in 94 they cancelled and cancelled God again and again here - where it did finally turn up as the 4th UtP single after Cornflake, PGY and PtM(live). > > 13 - Raspberry Swirl (bet they forget that they never released it) > > It was double A-sided with Cruel. Nominated for a Grammy. It'll > definitely be on there. Again, over here it was yet another will-they-or-won't-they release, my local record store even said they had actually ordered and paid for copies on the 3rd release date that was set for it, but it only turned up as a German import weeks later. So roll on Epic - things can only get better! > > > **Question 2. - What WON'T make the cut but you wish would? > > SIREN SIREN SIREN. OK lets be honest - "ALL OF THEM!" :o) pete x x x ## If nothing else works, then a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through. ## lord melchett, Black Adder Goes Forth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:18:44 -0600 From: "mr zebra" Subject: Re: TA:GHV1 > Umm, [raises hand and coughs politely] like I said... > > >>*if* it were UK based D'OH. > And it'll be hard for you Americans to believe, but back in 94 they > cancelled and cancelled God again and again here - where it did finally > turn up as the 4th UtP single after Cornflake, PGY and PtM(live). Very odd. PGY and PtM got diddly-squat promotion over here. God had little promotion either except radio. The video was spun a bit, though. You can still catch clips of it in Tori news segments on VH1 and such from time to time. > OK lets be honest - "ALL OF THEM!" :o) Nah. Not all of them. A lot of them are rather....blah. matthew. ;-) I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face. I dreamt tomorrow would have better things to say than, "You look like shit, what's your problem, bitch?" ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #236 *************************************