From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #197 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, October 14 2001 Volume 06 : Number 197 Today's Subjects: ----------------- nyc 3 [strange little woj ] recordings of shows [Abbuford@aol.com] Re: toriphoria [strange little woj ] RE: CALS question. ["Pete Lambert" ] question for recorders of shows [WWJD14054@aol.com] rolling stone interview & video [strange little woj ] Re: recordings of shows [strange little woj ] boston bootlegging [Surreal00@aol.com] 2nd CBS Early Show Performances & Merchandise [Twinkle018@aol.com] strange little webcast [strange little woj ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 11:13:37 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: nyc 3 okay, it's saturday...i think i've slept enough to recover from the three late weekday nights going to the beacon shows this week (alas, i'm one of those people who can't really sleep that late, so even if i get to sleep around 2 or 3, i don't sleep in later than 9 on a weekend and, being weekdays, i had to get up earlier anyways). i've already posted about the first two beacon shows. the third, i think, was on the level of the second show: excellent intensity, some really nice song choices and, amusingly (to me anyways), the songs she repeated from the first night weren't muffed up (either by her forgetting lyrics or by sound problems). here's what she played (copied from the dent, in case you're wondering about the capitalization): '97 Bonnie & Clyde / Icicle / Little Amsterdam / Leather / Upside Down / Rattlesnakes / Winter / Beauty Queen / Horses / Flying Dutchman / This Old Man / Not The Red Baron / Crucify / Yes, Anastasia / Me and a Gun / Landslide 1st Encore: Honey / Hey Jupiter 2nd Encore: Playboy Mommy / Time i sort of expected to hear upside down and winter since i knew she had played them already on the tour and, sure enough, they came out to play and were excellent (even though she stopped in the middle of upside down to replay a bit which, to my ear, sounded fine the first time through). little amsterdam, flying dutchman and anastasia were nice surprises. my eyes bugged when she played red baron instead of god after this old man. i was hoping to hear the new treatment of god but i have to say red baron was perfect in its place and incredibly effective considering its lyrics and new york being one of the epicenters of the attacks -- it was the emotional high point of the show for me. she nailed horses and crucify this night, making up for the problems on tuesday. landslide was good. i think i've seen that once before; in any event, it was a better followup to me and a gun than daniel. honey is always a treat -- easily among the best of her songs and it could very well be her best (and maybe even my favorite). playboy mommy on the wurlizter was nice and time was the perfect ending for the three shows after not playing it on the first two nights (despite it being the song of choice for the tv show circuit). thanks to beth, we got to enjoy the last show from the lovely confines of the tenth row, orchestra right. we were close enough to the center to get a good view of tori and while we couldn't see her hands, i caught glimpses of them reflected in the top of the bosey's cover. one amusing tidbit: we walked around the theater to get back to the parking garage where we left the car. as we strolled by the main stage entrance, on amsterdam ave (the entrance that tori used to leave is on 75th), we noticed amongst the cases and other equipment, one baby crib full of playschool boxes. :) woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 11:29:13 EDT From: Abbuford@aol.com Subject: recordings of shows If anybody records any of the shows, I would love to buy a copy. Please email me--or the list. Thanks, ashley abbuford@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 11:32:22 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: toriphoria when we last left our heroes, Carmen Riojas (shiseidored21@hotmail.com) exclaimed: >Help! i DID A SEARCH FOR TORIPHORIA & IT'S NOT ON CROSSWINDS/CAN'T FIND >IT! DO ANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OR KNOW OF ANOTHER WEBSITE W/ THE >LYRICS TO SLG? toriphoria is now at . woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 16:31:05 +0100 From: "Pete Lambert" Subject: RE: CALS question. > Could anyone tell what is the difference between CALS (unedited > version) and CALS (album version) ?. > Thanks, > Daniel Hi Daniel & all - I've just compared my copy from the UK standard issue single (with the album version, 4.24 in length, with Tori first singing "Caught a lite sneeze..." about 51 seconds in), and the UK promo 1 track CD 'Radio Edit' version, is just 4.00 in length, with Tori's vocals beginning after about 24 seconds - so the only difference is the shorter intro. Possibly the "Unedited Version" is just another name for the "Album Version" to avoid confusion? Or could it be the live version from the 99 Pay-per-view? She added the line "You never could, you never did, you never could, you're full of sh*t" to that, and her vocal was removed for the 'offending' word in the broadcast version - perhaps you've found the un-censored live version? It's similar with the Radio Edit of Spark, which is only a few seconds shorter than the album version as they reduced the intro from 16 seconds to 8. So there's 2 (slightly) fascinating facts for the price of one! Pete xxxx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 11:53:01 EDT From: WWJD14054@aol.com Subject: question for recorders of shows i'm just a little curious about something. now, we all know that it's illigal to record the shows, so how do you guise get away with it? do you just hide it in your pocket or something? do they search you? do you just use tape recorders or...? i'm not that up-to-date on the recording equipment or anything. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 11:54:41 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: rolling stone interview & video rollingstone.com has a feature interview with tori by adam falik, including a lengthy video clip (in your choice of realmedia, windows media and quicktime), at . woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:12:55 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: recordings of shows when we last left our heroes, Abbuford@aol.com (Abbuford@aol.com) exclaimed: >If anybody records any of the shows, I would love to buy a copy. Please >email me--or the list. there are a group of toritapers who are trying to coordinate recording the strange little tour. the intention is to catalog the recordings that are made to try and ensure that only the best recordings are circulated. of course, it's a bit of an uphill battle with everyone and their mother recording shows, but we'll do whatever we can. anyways, the point is that all shows have been recorded so far and the process of comparing and contrasting is going on. as shows become available, it'll be announced in all the usual toriforums (including precious-things) and everyone'll be able to get copies. incidentally, if anyone where did record or is recording shows, please join the digitori yahoogroup and help out with this effort! woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:20:41 EDT From: Surreal00@aol.com Subject: boston bootlegging hey all i was just wondering..is anyone planning bootlegging the Boston show at the Wang? I know a lot of you probably don't think bootlegging is moral, but I would really *REALLY* like to get this show on cd/tape/whatever since this is my first Tori show. Let me know if you are! thanks. riley ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:02:21 EDT From: Twinkle018@aol.com Subject: 2nd CBS Early Show Performances & Merchandise Hey guys... I just wanted to ask if anyone did have a copy of the 2nd CBS Early Show. I really would like to have a copy of it. I can trade, pay, whatever... please e-mail me privately if you could help. Also, I copied the first one and the Regis and Kelly performance that I would be more than happy to copy for those who asked. All I ask for is a tape in return. I also have many other performances from over the years. You can always ask me if I have it. I don't mind copying. There was another one that I missed and wish that I could get my hands on, also. It is the Rosie O'Donnell performance w/ "Northern Lad" on it. Can anyone help w/ this, also? I'd also like to get a hold of the recent... and past local shows of Tori. Anyone? I have lots of local radio, many tv-type performances... etc. that I'd love to trade. If anyone on the list is interested... let me know. Hmm... Oh yeah! I am going to attend the Nov. 9th Seattle show. Whoever is in need of merchandise, I'd love to help if I can. So, if you want to wait that long, I'll do my best for you. E-mail me privately on that one, too. Well, thanks... Desiree ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 23:15:09 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: strange little webcast i'm sure most everyone has checked out the warner brothers' strange little webcast by now. in case not, don't forget to as it's good, clean fun. a rehearsal for the strange little tour was filmed and is the source for this webcast. it includes the following songs: icicle / take to the sky / hey jupiter / beauty queen/horses / time / enjoy the silence in case anyone hasn't heard about this, the webcast can be viewed at: http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/wblcs/concert.jsp?concert=tori_amos the streams are being served up in a variety of formats (quicktime, real media, and windows media) and a variety of speeds (dial-up, isdn, and cable/dsl/t1). the only problem, alas, is that the webcast requires flash to select format, speed and which song you want to view. so, to make things easier, i've isolated the urls that will get you directly to the streams, without having to go through the nonsense. for each format and song, there are three links: the one that ends in 056 is for dial-ups, 100 is for isdn, and 300 is for cable/dsl. keep in mind that you'll need a fast enough computer for any given format, despite your connection's speed. for instance, my 133mhz pentium can't decode a 300kbps stream fast enough even though i have dsl). i imagine that most people have powerful enough machines for the the high bitrate streams though. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- real media: start up your realplayer and then paste an address into the location bar. launching these from your mail program will (probably) not work since these are realmedia plug-in files, not realmedia metafiles. (the addresses of the rtsp streams appear to be dynamically generated and are being served from akamai.net, if anyone is curious.) full concert http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/tori_live_g2_056.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/tori_live_g2_100.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/tori_live_g2_300.rpm icicle http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_g2_056.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_g2_100.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_g2_300.rpm take to the sky http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_g2_056.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_g2_100.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_g2_300.rpm hey jupiter http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_g2_056.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_g2_100.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_g2_300.rpm beauty queen/horses http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_g2_056.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_g2_100.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_g2_300.rpm time http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_g2_056.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_g2_100.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_g2_300.rpm enjoy the silence http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_g2_056.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_g2_100.rpm http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_g2_300.rpm - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- windows media: paste any of the following addresses directly into your web browser (or just (double-)click on the link in this message if your mailer knows how to launch your web browser): full concert http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/tori_live_wmt_056.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/tori_live_wmt_100.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/tori_live_wmt_300.asx icicle http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_wmt_056.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_wmt_100.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_wmt_300.asx take to the sky http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_wmt_056.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_wmt_100.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_wmt_300.asx hey jupiter http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_wmt_056.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_wmt_100.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_wmt_300.asx beauty queen/horses http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_wmt_056.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_wmt_100.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_wmt_300.asx time http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_wmt_056.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_wmt_100.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_wmt_300.asx enjoy the silence http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_wmt_056.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_wmt_100.asx http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_wmt_300.asx - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- quicktime: launch the quicktime player, select open url from the file menu ans paste in any of the following addresses. you can also launch these links from your mail program by (double-)clicking on the link, but the movie will be displayed in a browser window. icicle http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_qt_056.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_qt_100.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song1_qt_300.mov take to the sky http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_qt_056.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_qt_100.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song2_qt_300.mov hey jupiter http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_qt_056.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_qt_100.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song3_qt_300.mov beauty queen/horses http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_qt_056.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_qt_100.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song4_qt_300.mov time http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_qt_056.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_qt_100.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song5_qt_300.mov enjoy the silence http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_qt_056.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_qt_100.mov http://www2.warnerbros.com/wblcs/tori_amos/tori_live/song6_qt_300.mov - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- some thoughts about saving these files locally or converting them to a more friendly media format: there are many ways to do this ranging from low tech (connecting the line out of a sound card to its line in and recording the analog signal) to hi tech (capturing the stream via a tool such as streambox vcr and converting with something like streambox ripper). warner brothers has done quite a bit to make that difficult to do, such as flagging copyright tags and using plug-ins rather than directly streamable files. there are some threads about doing this on the dent forum (and someone posted the windows media files to alt.binaries.tori-amos earlier today) so, it can be done. however, it's not always straight-forward and, since everyone's computer is different, there are no sure-fire instructions i can give to do it. not to mention, the files are large (the quicktime movies are 25-30 meg each while the real/windows media files are more in the neighborhood of 10-15 meg). in the same vein, the streams are already highly compressed, so decoding to an uncompressed format and recoding as mp3 isn't the best thing to do as far as sound quality goes. still, i imagine folks will do this and that some already have. so, keep an eye out and hopefully those files will show up on a server or a.b.t-a sooner or later an save you the trouble. ;) woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #197 *************************************