From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #110 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, July 8 2001 Volume 06 : Number 110 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Bonnie & Clyde-Empathy for Her Husband [ToRiGLosS@aol.com] Re: empathy vs. sympathy [Dracovixen@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:21:13 EDT From: ToRiGLosS@aol.com Subject: Re: Bonnie & Clyde-Empathy for Her Husband How can ANYTHING be conveyed if, as the Time Magazine article says, she changed NONE of the lyrics.. Does this seem strange to anyone else? (:7.8((*7.8 8.7*()8.7:) +.707. AmY.707.; (8.7:(8.7(* *(7.8):7.8) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:50:05 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: empathy vs. sympathy I have an example. Columbine. What those fucks did was totally inexcusable, horrid, and sick. However, I can see where they're coming from. I watched tons of my friends get pushed off to the side just because they didn't conform. It happens for years, and sometimes those kids get angry. It gets tiring after a while. Everyone already has enough problems, who wants some golden boy jock who thinks he's Mr. Perfection popping them in the nose every once in a while? I myself tired of them. I would stand up for my friends, because many of them shied away. However, there was the occasional kid that didn't fend for himself, and that even I would ignore. I remember this one kid, Kevin Coombs, who everyone either ignored or mercilessly teased. I ignored him, as did most of my friends. He ended up being the kid that threatened to blow up our graduation, and they had to jail him after they found materials in his room used for pipe bombs. Sometimes people are pushed too far. There is a line, an edge. Still, what they did I would have given them the chair for if they hadn't killed themselves. Fucks. Not everyone develops a thick skin. There's some real bad shit that can go on in hallways and classrooms. People really need to be taught to have more consideration and tolerance for each other, despite any differences. Really, some of these differences are so trivial. Black clothing, oh my god...satan worshipper, right? Give me a break. Not that I need to preach to you guys, because I'm sure all the Toriphiles are wonderfully open-minded people. :) Anyway, that's my example. I have empathy for those killers, but not sympathy, not pity, nothing. I hope that whatever the afterlife might be, they're suffering the worst of it. Black Dove In a message dated 07/06/2001 10:26:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > Let's say one of your co-workers gets really angry with your boss because > he made them come in to work on a Saturday. You would probably be able to > understand their anger even if you hadn't ever had any problems with the > boss yourself. But if your co-worker dealt with their anger by punching > your boss in the face, you wouldn't have to support the violence to still > be able to understand why they were feeling angry. That would be empathy. > > You don't necessarily have to agree with a person's point of view or > actions to look at a situation from their perspective. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #110 *************************************