From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #70 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, April 21 2001 Volume 06 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: new Tori album info ["molly" ] Guardian Article [Erinita ] Re: new Tori album info [RedSpark18@aol.com] Re: new Tori album info [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V6 #69 [JNe9027355@aol.com] From MysT - The Elderly One ~ [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Re: [tori-boot] The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos [RaspberryS] Re: Piano recital [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] link to site featuring tori ["sheina kalinchak" ] Re: Re: Song Interpretations [JNe9027355@aol.com] I need to clarify myself [Michael Whitehead ] Re: new Tori album info [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos ["demby3" ] Fw: new Tori album info ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] Re: [tori-boot] The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos ["liquid. r] Re: [tori-boot] The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos [Nadyne Mie] new Tori album info ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:21:48 -0700 From: "molly" Subject: Re: new Tori album info while i agree that nursing in public is a very powerful statement a woman can make, i dont think Tori would EVER place her young daughter in the spotlight like that. I can imagine that Tori (like many mothers in the 'biz) will go to great lengths to shelter Natashya from that kind of exposure. Also, judging from what Tori has said about nursing already, I think its fair to say that she holds the quiet, private time alone with her baby as sacred. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daisy Dead Petals To: Precious Things Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: new Tori album info > > Thanks so much for this info! > I am THRILLED to hear that Tori is still nursing! I am a nursing mom and a > nursing advocate, so this is great news! I know what she means about having > lots of time to think while nursing. I started to lose my mind until i got > some books on tape. When they are tiny, you dont have free hands to even > read a book. > > I hope that her nursing will inspire new moms to give it a go. Wouldnt it be > wonderful if she were still nursing while on tour and took a break during > the concert to feed Natashya? That would be a great example and a powerful > statement that women should NOT be disgraced into thinking that nusing > should only be done in private. A baby's gotta eat for crissakes--do you > have any idea how impossible it is to have to HIDE to feed your child??? And > when nursing is done skillfully, VERY > little skin shows...Ooo sorry, I feel a rant coming on--I will quit now... > > Daisy Melanie > loopgaroo@g2a.net > > > It has also led her to produce her first > > musical offering since 1999's To Venus and Back. > > Strange Little Girls, due out on September 18th, is a project that > > Amos says came about from the long bonding sessions she had nursing > > Natashya. > > "The thing about nursing is, you do have enforced thinking time for > > hours and hours and hours a day. That's when I formulated the whole > > thing," says Amos from her home studio in Cornwall, England. " ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Erinita Subject: Guardian Article My question is, how could this article have inspired the album if it was only written one month ago? I don't think it's fair for the interviewer to implicate that "her album was shaped by the recent article..." if the album was completed before the article was written. That is all, Erin _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:18:00 EDT From: RedSpark18@aol.com Subject: Re: new Tori album info In a message dated 4/16/2001 10:40:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loopgaroo@g2a.net writes: << Thanks so much for this info! I am THRILLED to hear that Tori is still nursing! I am a nursing mom and a nursing advocate, so this is great news! I know what she means about having lots of time to think while nursing. I started to lose my mind until i got some books on tape. When they are tiny, you dont have free hands to even read a book. I hope that her nursing will inspire new moms to give it a go. Wouldnt it be wonderful if she were still nursing while on tour and took a break during the concert to feed Natashya? That would be a great example and a powerful statement that women should NOT be disgraced into thinking that nusing should only be done in private. A baby's gotta eat for crissakes--do you have any idea how impossible it is to have to HIDE to feed your child??? And when nursing is done skillfully, VERY little skin shows...Ooo sorry, I feel a rant coming on--I will quit now... >> The article said that Tori HAD bonding experiences WHILE nursing Natashya. Isn't that the past tense? As in she DID nurse her. Anyhow, Uh, Little Natashya was born Sep. 5, 2000. Tori's new album comes out Sept. 18th, 2001. That means little Natashya will be over a year old when the album comes out and by the time she tours Natashya will be close to a year if not a year. Do people really nurse a kid after a year old? Now I don't have a problem with nursing a baby. But I think that bearing any part of your naked body for a baby to suck on is kinda yucky and it should be done in private. I for one, do not want to see ANY of a strangers tit, let alone someone SUCKING on that boob. And the people that I've seen nursing in public do NOT try to hide it very well in fact they FLAUNT it and THAT is the disgusting part. I do NOT want to be sitting in a nice restaurant with some stranger's tit hanging out with a baby attached to it. That is just something that should be done elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with sitting in the car or going to the bathroom to feed your kid when boobies are involved. If I HAD to eat while exposing a part of someones privates then I'd do it in private. Like if it was absolutely necessary for my tit to be hanging out while I was eating, then I'd do it alone. Am I alone on this one?! I'm not ranting specifically at you Daisy. Sorry if you feel offended. Red ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:44 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: new Tori album info In a message dated 4/16/01 10:40:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loopgaroo@g2a.net writes: << That would be a great example and a powerful statement that women should NOT be disgraced into thinking that nursing should only be done in private. A baby's gotta eat for crissakes--do you have any idea how impossible it is to have to HIDE to feed your child??? And when nursing is done skillfully, VERY little skin shows >> Certainly, the act of nursing a baby by a mother is not shameful or disgraceful at all if "done skillfully", like you say, in public, but it is not very considerable to pull your breast out in front of thousands of people while they watch you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:11:57 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #69 In a message dated 4/16/2001 10:31:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > ....Till Next Time, See You In The Dreamtime.... is this a lyric? if so from what song? AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:04:52 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: From MysT - The Elderly One ~ Hi ya AJ & EWF ~ OMGosh - AJ is that true? Am I THAT far gone that I only remember Tori related sound bites??? LOL!!! Someone... Quick... Gimme some Ginko Biloba! (That IS the stuff that helps memory isn't it?) LOL! Thanks AJ, I'll have to pay more attention :-) Granny Toodles ~ MysT *However, I will say I think Jay REALLY means it with Tori! HeHe ;-) *** In a message dated 4/16/01 10:30:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:46:34 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #68 In a message dated 4/15/2001 10:34:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > Speaking of Leno & Letterman ~ Jay Leno absolutely LOVES Tori! He calls > her "One of Our Favorites" every single darn time she appears on his show. Hey, he calls every star i've seen interviewed a favorite--sometimes even when they're making their 1st appearance there , and usually always when they return. :shrugs: - -AJ p.s i agree w/your opinions on leno/letterman interviewing styles >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:20:27 EDT From: RaspberrySwirl19@aol.com Subject: Re: [tori-boot] The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos In a message dated 04/18/2001 9:42:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nadyne@rmta.org writes: > I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd rather listen to my neighbour's cat > I agree completely! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:47:33 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Re: Piano recital Hi Micah (& EWF) ~ Enquiring minds were reminded (by your post) and want to know -- How are the wedding plans coming? Ooooo... And the song! Tell us what song you have decided on to play for him :-) Nosy Girl Toodles ~ MysT *Jim has just today flown back to the UK, that's why MysT is posting like mad. It helps her to keep her mind off her lonely heart :-( *** In a message dated 4/16/01 10:30:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:25:24 EDT From: ToriLiscious@cs.com Subject: Re: Piano recital "Are any of you are keyboardists who could recommend a relatively simply Tori Song for me? The simpler, the better, but I'm open to any ideas since I have quite a while still to learn it." I play piano.. sorta.. i don't take lessons, but i'm a music freak, so i like to try and pound out tori's stuff.. i have found that the easiest song to play is Twinkle.. it takes awhile to be able to sing along because the rhythm is so off. Yes, Anastasia was also fairly easy for me. lots of simple chords.. the only unfortunate part about that song is, i'm used to hearing the violins come in after "officer i saw the sign", and it just took awhile for it to sound okay to me with the whole thing being played by piano. but... if you have a synthesizer, you can keep it on orchestra, and play it like tori does with her synth and/or harpsichord, and just turn around on your chair and play it. Yes, Anastasia is a long song, but like i said, i do not consider myself to be a piano player, but i was able to play it up to tempo in less than a month (from memory), although it took me longer than that to be able to sing along, maybe a couple of weeks or so. hope that helps stuff, micah >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:53:50 From: "sheina kalinchak" Subject: link to site featuring tori Hello all... I was searching today for pictures of fairies, and came across this site: http://fairyweb.com/fairy1.htm. It has a picture of a fairy on it that was inspired by Tori........ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:40:25 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Re: new Tori album info Hi ya Daisy (& EWF) ~ Daisy ~ I LOVE that you said that! As a formerly (read: long, long ago) nursing Mom, I SO identified with what you said. Sheer perfection. Thank you so much :-) Pure As Mothers Milk Toodles ~ MysT *** In a message dated 4/16/01 10:30:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:09:10 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: Re: new Tori album info Thanks so much for this info! I am THRILLED to hear that Tori is still nursing! I am a nursing mom and a nursing advocate, so this is great news! I know what she means about having lots of time to think while nursing. I started to lose my mind until i got some books on tape. When they are tiny, you dont have free hands to even read a book. I hope that her nursing will inspire new moms to give it a go. Wouldnt it be wonderful if she were still nursing while on tour and took a break during the concert to feed Natashya? That would be a great example and a powerful statement that women should NOT be disgraced into thinking that nusing should only be done in private. A baby's gotta eat for crissakes--do you have any idea how impossible it is to have to HIDE to feed your child??? And when nursing is done skillfully, VERY little skin shows...Ooo sorry, I feel a rant coming on--I will quit now... Daisy Melanie loopgaroo@g2a.net > It has also led her to produce her first > musical offering since 1999's To Venus and Back. > Strange Little Girls, due out on September 18th, is a project that > Amos says came about from the long bonding sessions she had nursing > Natashya. > "The thing about nursing is, you do have enforced thinking time for > hours and hours and hours a day. That's when I formulated the whole > thing," says Amos from her home studio in Cornwall, England. " >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:16:24 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: CFG's "watchword" In a message dated 4/16/2001 10:31:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > I love Cornflake Girl...esp. when I found out what "watchword" was. watch*word (noun) First appeared 15th Century 1 : a word or phrase used as a sign of recognition among members of the same society, class, or group 2 a : a word or motto that embodies a principle or guide to action of an individual or group : SLOGAN <"safety" is our ~> b : a guiding principle I wonder which sense tori is using it in....? :) AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:38:58 -0000 From: "Tom xxxxx" Subject: Re: Girl Yes, PThings and Waitress just had to be on the live disc. No question. But a lot of the other songs do not rank as my Tori faves. ComT, Sugar, Cornflake, Cooling, and Cruel are all fine with me. I know many Tori fans love LE, but it leaves me cold. I would've loved to have Doughnut Song, Horses, Spark, and Crucify on the live disc. I have a live boot with Horses and it was just utterly transformed by having the band with her. We really missed out by not having a live version of that in an official release. Just my $.02, Tom >From: magadeline@aol.com >To: getula@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Girl >Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:12:35 EDT > >In a message dated 4/13/2001 11:02:01 PM Central Daylight Time, >getula@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Actually--and this may get me into some trouble--I think that the song > > choices for the live part of Venus were pretty weak. Just MHO. > > > > toodles, > > Tom > > > >I agree and then I don't to your opinion. Precious Things, it had to be on >there, just like waitress. Those were probably the main songs of the tour. >Does everyone remember the dance to waitress???? (hang ten, hang ten >honey.) >Precious things though, they could of picked a better version. After going >to >many shows, I personally enjoy the times when she starts growling or there >is >spit falling all over the floor and her pretty shoes. I know you can't see >that in a cd though. Cornflalke girl was a little slow paced. > > I really did like the addition of Girl to the album. In the tour >Tori >and the band didn't master that song until the last few shows. It was a >little special for me to hear it on the album because I remember hearing it >in Lafayette, IN for the first time, Tori's second time. > > Cooling- I think we all love cooling. Adefinate must to put the >feel >of a Tori Amos show and her secret time. > > I LOVE Cloud on my tongue, sugar and little earthquakes. Especially >little earthquakes. She picked an awesome cut of it. You can hear the >audience just going nuts. I remember the first time I heard her sing that >way >back in 94- oh i miss the parkwest. > > My comments- > > Jennifer _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:11:29 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Song Interpretations In a message dated 4/16/2001 10:31:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > Subject: Re: Song Interpretations > > The best site that I have seen is called Titalisq. You can honestly spend > hours there. > > The address is: > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/3939/ > When i was becoming a big fan of her's, thats the site that i thought was just the greatest until i found out about all the other work tori has done that the site doesn't give feature too, like the b-sides/collaborations/off-album songs. Very disappointing and slightly unbelievable... - -AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Whitehead Subject: I need to clarify myself Hello, I recently responded to a news item that Matthew posted to the mailing list. He posted the recent article from RollingStone.com that gave details about Tori's new album, "Strange Little Girls". I responded that he failed to give a source for the article and I insisted that he and others do so whenever they post Tori news items. Someone else from this mailing list emailed me and said I sounded condescending and that I was too concerned about things that perhaps other people are not so nearly concerned with, and that I should lighten up. First of all I want to apologize to Matthew if I hurt his feelings in any way. I did not think I that I was mean, but if I was I am sorry. But I wanted to explain myself a little more and try express why it is vitally important that we always state a source and date when posting things. Through thedent.com, I have been sharing news items and articles about Tori for over 5 years on the net. I have seen how a news item that does not contain a source or date can lead to serious problems and issues. I have come to realize that a news tidbit about Tori has no real value unless the source of the news item is known. Here is an example. There was some excitement on the Dent forum recently about an article that was recently posted to the OzTori mailing list. The article, from a publication called "Madreporic Plate", talked about an artist named Clara Rockmore, who was a master at playing a unique instrument called the Theremin. In the article, Clara said that Tori wanted to use a Theremin on her "new album". The actual quote from Clara was, ""At the moment I'm involved in the production of some tracks for an album by a singer/songwriter called Tori Amos. She wants to include some of the Theremin sounds..." So there was all this excitement about this new album news. However, after I did some research, I realized that the article had to be rather old, because the artist, Clara Rockmore, died in 1998. Therefore this had to be an older article, and it turns out that Tori did use such an instrument way back on Little Earthquakes. If the original person who posted that article had taken the time to find out the date of that article, it would have prevented that misunderstanding. That is just one example, but it shows that a news item has no real value unless it includes a source and date. This is not an issue of me being anal about it, or of me being picky. We should all insist that news items include such basic information, so that we can all stay better and more accurately informed about Tori. As webmaster of the Dent, I get a lot of fake articles that people write just to fool me, because they want to trick me into posting things that are not true on the site. Therefore, I have to be extra careful and verify sources when I can. So I really feel that the importance of documenting sources and dates is not just something I want, but something that we should all want. Perhaps you still think that such a thing is not important to you. But please understand that it is important as a matter of principle. I again apologize to Matthew if I hurt his feelings. I hope this posting will help clarify why I feel so passionately about this issue. Mikewhy http://thedent.com mikewhy@iglou.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:20:05 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: new Tori album info In a message dated 4/16/01 10:40:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loopgaroo@g2a.net writes: << That would be a great example and a powerful statement that women should NOT be disgraced into thinking that nursing should only be done in private. A baby's gotta eat for crissakes--do you have any idea how impossible it is to have to HIDE to feed your child??? And when nursing is done skillfully, VERY little skin shows >> Certainly, the act of nursing a baby by a mother is not shameful or disgraceful at all if "done skillfully", like you say, in public, but it is not very considerate (I meant to say considerate in the first post, not considerable) to pull your breast out in front of thousands of people while they watch you. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:20:31 -0400 From: "demby3" Subject: Re: The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos Hey Tori's fan, I'm new to the mailing list, but I been a Tori fan since 1992, but I did not sale my soul to her until 1994. Last year, somebody told me about a Tori tribute album called: "The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos. It pretty good. It took me forever to find it, but I did at alansuperstore.vstorestuff.com. Alan's Superstore got alot of Tori's stuff, like her music books, albums and all of her videos, which we all have, well except for the new fan (maybe), but we were all new fans once. Anyone else have this album, let me know what you think of it. Peace, Love and Lollipops. Len ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:05:01 -0500 From: "Mark Harbott" Subject: CD stores Ok I'm not sure if I have asked on this list before.....but here goes anyway? I'm looking for good CD stores in the Houston area..both new and used...particularly ones that have good Tori stuff! Please help if you can!!! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:42:12 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: Fw: new Tori album info Good point. I totally agree. I was just thinking about how she could use her fame to promote nursing and you are right, that is not the best way. Shame on me. > while i agree that nursing in public is a very powerful statement a woman > can make, i dont think Tori would EVER place her young daughter in the > spotlight like that. I can imagine that Tori (like many mothers in the > 'biz) will go to great lengths to shelter Natashya from that kind of > exposure. Also, judging from what Tori has said about nursing already, I > think its fair to say that she holds the quiet, private time alone with her > baby as sacred. Daisy Melanie loopgaroo@g2a.net Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it. "Women must understand that simply attacking or hating all men is just another form of disempowerment. A woman has to realize that when she makes a man crawl it doesn't give her power. All it will do is make her puke eventually. Rather than say "all men are bastards" let's say "all men are infants, until they decide to be men." Calling them bastards is boring at this stage." - -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:55:30 -0400 From: "liquid. running." Subject: Re: [tori-boot] The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos i never heard the CD nor do i want to. I think i sing farely well to Tori's music...and that's MY little tribute so why in god's name do i wanna hear another fan sing? all i gotta do is go to a Meet and Greet, and get really cold and start singing with the crowd (hehe, if anyone was at the Poughkeepsie, NY 1998 meet and greet...you know what i mean) - -Susan >From: Raspberryswirl19@aol.com >To: precious-things@smoe.org, toriandmore@egroups.com, >tori-boot@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [tori-boot] The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:20:27 EDT > >In a message dated 04/18/2001 9:42:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >nadyne@rmta.org writes: > > > > I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd rather listen to my neighbour's >cat > > > >I agree completely! > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:38:38 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [tori-boot] The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos At 09:31 18-04-01 -0400, demby3 wrote: >I'm new to the mailing list, but I been a Tori fan since 1992, but I did >not sale my soul to her until 1994. Last year, somebody told me about a >Tori >tribute album called: "The Pretty Good Years: A Tribute to Tori Amos. It >pretty good. It took me forever to find it, but I did at >[someone's website]. Alan's Superstore got alot of Tori's stuff, >like her music books, albums and all of her videos, which we all have, well >except for the new fan (maybe), but we were all new fans once. Anyone else >have this album, let me know what you think of it. Peace, Love and >Lollipops. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd rather listen to my neighbour's cat in heat than listen to Jemma Price's attempts at covering Tori. I don't know if you're just attempting to drum up business for the website you listed, but I don't see why I should buy things through an affiliate program instead of just buying directly from Tori's own website at . I get the same material (well, except they're bright enough not to carry that horrible tribute album), for better prices, and more of the money goes into the artist's pocket. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:38:30 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: new Tori album info Red said: > The article said that Tori HAD bonding experiences WHILE nursing Natashya. > Isn't that the past tense? As in she DID nurse her. Anyhow, Uh, Little > Natashya was born Sep. 5, 2000. Tori's new album comes out Sept. 18th, 2001. > That means little Natashya will be over a year old when the album comes out > and by the time she tours Natashya will be close to a year if not a year. Do > people really nurse a kid after a year old? > The American Academy of Pediatrics asks mothers to breastfeed for at LEAST one year. Past this time it is still very beneficial. > Now I don't have a problem with nursing a baby. But I think that bearing any > part of your naked body for a baby to suck on is kinda yucky and it should be > done in private. I for one, do not want to see ANY of a strangers tit, let > alone someone SUCKING on that boob. You are entitled to your opinion. But isnt that baby entitled to be fed (we are talking nourshment here, not just "hey this is a neat trick" or something)--no matter if someone else thinks it is "yucky"? And no matter what formula companies try to tell you, formula is very substandard. And the people that I've seen nursing in > public do NOT try to hide it very well in fact they FLAUNT it and THAT is the > disgusting part. I do NOT want to be sitting in a nice restaurant with some > stranger's tit hanging out with a baby attached to it. That is just something > that should be done elsewhere. Flaunting is poor taste OR inexperience. I repeat, you do not need to show hardly any skin to breastfeed. There is nothing wrong with sitting in the car > or going to the bathroom to feed your kid when boobies are involved. OK I totally disagree. I have nursed sitting on a toliet and it the dirtiest most disgusting thing. I have *tried* to nurse on a chair in a bathroom and it is very hard. Would YOU want to eat your dinner in a public bathroom???? And sitting in a car--oh yeah, I love running to the car to nurse. Either hot in the summer or cold in the winter, and cramped quarters besides. Blegh. I do happen to nurse in bathrooms and cars because I believe that my baby deserves the best food (milk) and I know people are so WEIRD about it. But think about it--all they are doing is EATING. > > I'm not ranting specifically at you Daisy. Sorry if you feel offended. No I am not offended. I think this is a wonderful opportunity to share information. And if Tori has weaned Natashya, that is cool. I am just happy that this gives people a chance to learn about the benefits of breastfeeding. If anybody is interested in the MANY benefits, I can direct you to websites, etc. Daisy Melanie loopgaroo@g2a.net Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it. "Women must understand that simply attacking or hating all men is just another form of disempowerment. A woman has to realize that when she makes a man crawl it doesn't give her power. All it will do is make her puke eventually. Rather than say "all men are bastards" let's say "all men are infants, until they decide to be men." Calling them bastards is boring at this stage." - -Tori Amos ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #70 ************************************