From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #68 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, April 16 2001 Volume 06 : Number 068 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ftp.tal.org not working! [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: the purple monkey ["Emma Lorelei" ] Re: query on TA's performance on The View [RedSpark18@aol.com] Re: Girl [Mallettdove@aol.com] Piano recital ["Alexis Rodriguez-Carlson" ] Song Interpretations ["Scott Evans" ] Re: live album song choices ["Emma Lorelei" ] clunky the purple monkey ["Lauren DePhillips" ] Re: Girl [ToriLiscious@cs.com] Tori Trivia 5 ~ ANSWER [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] new Tori album info ["mr zebra" ] Jay vs. David ~ [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:50:42 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: ftp.tal.org not working! Any time I try to click on the name of a bootleg at ftp://ftp.tal.org/pub/toriamos/mp3/Bootlegs_and_shows/, it says the page cannot be displayed. It has said the same for anything pertaining to that part of the site since yesterday afternoon. I just visited this site for the first time yesterday. Does this happen all the time at this site? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:17:49 -0000 From: "Emma Lorelei" Subject: Re: the purple monkey Also on the album To Venus And Back, first song called Bliss, Tori begins by singing "Father I killed my monkey, I let it out to taste the sweet of spring". This is also a reference to Clunky the purple monkey. - -Emma _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:21:08 EDT From: RedSpark18@aol.com Subject: Re: query on TA's performance on The View In a message dated 4/14/2001 12:02:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, UnderH20thing@aol.com writes: << It was really bad and you could tell that Tori wasn't comfortable there, at least not as comfortable as when she is with David Letterman and sometimes even Leno. Hope that helps... >> I thought Tori was very comfortable there. She seemed like she was almost poking fun at Lisa 'dinga' Ling for asking her some dumb questions. I thought it was quite amusing. Red ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:00:01 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: Girl In a message dated 4/14/01 12:02:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, getula@hotmail.com writes: << I think that the song choices for the live part of Venus were pretty weak >> I agree wholeheartedly with this opinion, although I could not have left Girl out had I been putting together the compilation. but the track listing would have been something like: Precious Things, iieee, Caught A Lite Sneeze, She's Your Cocaine, Doughnut Song, Crucify, Silent All These Years, Cooling, Sugar, Horses, The Waitess, Talula, Past the Mission, but still I could not have left out Girl. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:19:27 -0400 From: "Alexis Rodriguez-Carlson" Subject: Piano recital Hi. I have just in the past 3 months or so begun piano lessons, and my teacher has told me that I'm ready to begin preparing for my recital in June and that I should bring in any piece I'm interested in playing and we can get through it, so long as it is not "too complicated." I would love to do a Tori piece, but I find I really have no idea about the complexity of her songs. Are any of you are keyboardists who could recommend a relatively simply Tori Song for me? The simpler, the better, but I'm open to any ideas since I have quite a while still to learn it. thanks, ali ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:40:31 -0400 From: "Scott Evans" Subject: Song Interpretations Can someone post any links for really good Tori song interpretation pages? I'm sure they've been posted countless times before during the "song meaning" discussions, but I've just gotten interested... Thanks =) scott.evans [[crazy is just YOU and ME. AMPLIFIED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . . . . . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [http://jewel.tanweb.com] cuz the finish line is a shifty thing and what is life but reckoning? and you are still the song i sing to myself when i'm alone . . . . ani difranco - 'reckoning' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:21:37 -0000 From: "Emma Lorelei" Subject: Re: live album song choices I thought the choices for the live album were very good. I don't think she chose them by song title I think it was chosen by energy. And there is lots of good live energy there, very powerful performances of Cornflake Girl (try to play that on your piano!), Little Earthquakes and The waitress. She even pants to the music at the end of most of the songs. Also the live version of Cloud on my Tongue makes me cry and I think is much deeper than the original one on UTP. I think the live album was good, because there are a lot of EWF like me who have never seen her perform live and didn't know all her ss's sound like snakes. :) - -Emma _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:43:48 From: "Lauren DePhillips" Subject: clunky the purple monkey >a tori quote i was sent: > >"I've been aware of him for years. I've had many a dinner with him. > He's >always sitting on my shoulder." >- -Tori Amos on her imaginary friend, Clunky the purple monkey >- -People Magazine, 2/5/96 > >I have never heard of this before.. anyone have anymore insight on >the >monkey??? >stuff, >micah Clunky the purple monkey has mentions in two Tori songs. Marianne - "Timmy and that purple monkey..." and Bliss - "father I killed my monkey". There's also a story that Tori's father had invited a bishop to the house and that he sat in a chair, right where clunky was. Anyway, young Tori got very upset with him, and her Dad was not happy. - --Lauren PS. Thanks to everyone for there great stories about Girl. I liked all your insights (whether like, dislike, or somewhere in between). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:56:30 EDT From: ToriLiscious@cs.com Subject: Re: Girl i think Girl is a coming of age song. I looooooved Girl, especially when I was insecure and in high school and could totally relate to being shunned.. However when I realized that pretty much everyone was full of shit, and just told everyone to fuck off while I did my own thing, I started to get respect. I then started to dislike Girl, but of course then THAT phase passed (::whew::), and then the phase started where I was very reflective on myself and what previously moved me and why. Now I can appreciate the song, but instead of crying while I listen, I smile and dance. Anyway, that's just for me. I think there's 2 kinds of Tori fans.. ones that like Cornflake Girl and ones that like it only because it's sung by Tori. I like it only because it's sung by Tori. I don't know why. (I think someone said that before in an e-mail) What is so different about Cornflake Girl? And, for me, it's not the popularity (someone said that too), because I live in Oklahoma, and I have NEVER heard Tori on the radio, and I really don't watch much TV so the only popularity I know that Tori has is all of us ToriPhiles following her every move like the Christians follow Jesus (lol). So, any comments on why Cornflake Girl just doesn't catch on with a lot of people? I really like the lyrics, I just don't get on with the music aspect of it. Stuff, Micah ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:23:39 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Tori Trivia 5 ~ ANSWER Hi ya EWF ~ Here we go - Tori Trivia 5 ... Question and Answer ~ * In a message dated 4/10/01 10:45:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Mysterilady2001@cs.com writes: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:28:54 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Tori Trivia 5 ~ Hi ya EWF ~ Here is is - (Ta-Da!) - Tori Trivia 5: Atlantic/ew released a misprinted 7 inch single - What was the misprint & year? Good luck Toodles ~ MysT *** In June 1992 Atlantic/East West released the first pressing UK vinyl 7 inch for "Crucify" - A7479. The B side was to be "Here In My Head" BUT was misprinted "Here In My Hand". The mistake was recognized fairly early on but not before a few thousand copies had been shipped to record stores. Within a month of the first pressing a second pressing was produced & released with the corrected B-side title. The misprinted 45 is more collectible due to its limited number in circulation. Jim obtained mine for a couple bucks on eBay, We had no idea until it was received it that it was the misprint - needless to say we were elated. The seller could have made 10 times the money had they known its rarity and listed it as such. For those seeking a HAND misprint I recommend you look to UK sellers who deal in vinyl in large quantities, as they are less likely to know its value/rarity and are more likely to have UK vinyl in their possession (as opposed to US). As for its value - I'd list it as around 20.00 - 25.00 US dollars -- though value is, again, no more than the market will bear and right now the Tori market is like our US stock exchange - low & bearish -- a lucky bidder may be able to get their copy(ies) for much less at this out-of-Tori-season time. In comparison I'd list the UK second pressing 7" of "Crucify" at around $7.00. Another UK "Crucify" 7" was produced by East West alone and is more scarce than the second pressing with a value of $12.00. It's to be noted that all three versions carry both the same tracks & the same list number - A7479. Versions 1 & 2 on Atlantic/ew have the traditional orange/white/green Atlantic label and version 3 has a gray/black East West label. Congratulations to Giovanni for his correct answer ~ WTG my friend! Time for Beddy-Bye Toodles ~ MysT *Interesting tidbit ~ "Crucify" was LE first US single release but the UK's fifth. *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:23:00 -0500 From: "mr zebra" Subject: new Tori album info Amos Talks Music, Motherhood Baby, new album keeping Tori Amos busy Motherhood has become the center of Tori Amos' world since she and husband/engineer Mark Hawley welcomed their first child, daughter Natashya last September. It has also led her to produce her first musical offering since 1999's To Venus and Back. Strange Little Girls, due out on September 18th, is a project that Amos says came about from the long bonding sessions she had nursing Natashya. "The thing about nursing is, you do have enforced thinking time for hours and hours and hours a day. That's when I formulated the whole thing," says Amos from her home studio in Cornwall, England. "In those hours I started to decide what I was going to do, and it did kind of surprise me what my choice was." Amos' album is also shaped by a recent Martin Amis piece in the London newspaper The Guardian. The article, about pornography in America, made Amos "put an ear to the ground and hear what people are saying," she says. "The one question that I had to really pull back was: What is it in us, in women, that is OK to be defecated on?" "I'm just kind of blown away," Amos says about the current climate in America. "A lot of these young [musicians] remind me of grandpas that I used to play for at the Rotary Club, because the grandpa's were misogynists and homophobic and rightwinged." Amos, who plans on touring for Strange Little Girls "in a different way than I've toured in a long, long, time," says the core of the album -- which features King Crimson guitarist Adrian Belew and longtime collaborator Matt Chamberlain -- will deal with the dilemma of opposites. "I think it's a very difficult time in America right now, [for] a heterosexual male," Amos says. "Face it, most of them want to be black, or they have to look over their shoulder at the woman that's going to take their job. It's driven me to do the project I'm about to do." LINDSAY GOLDENBERG (April 13, 2001) matthew. WOOHOO. girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shorts and boots because it's ok to be a boy. but for a boy to look like a girl is degrading because you think that being a girl is degrading. but secretly, you'd love to know what it's like, wouldn't you? what it feels like for a girl... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 03:37:27 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Jay vs. David ~ Hi ya EWF ~ Speaking of Leno & Letterman ~ Jay Leno absolutely LOVES Tori! He calls her "One of Our Favorites" every single darn time she appears on his show. Its just not the banter that happens between Tori & Jay while live but the intimate friend-like talk & nonverbal exchanges during commercial breaks. They are friends. It's mucho less so with Letterman. In my opinion I think the Leno & Letterman interview styles are vastly different. Jay is there to highlight his guests and make THEM the center of attention for that brief period of time they are in the hot seat. On the other side is Letterman who IS the star and center of attention regardless of what guest is on. Now don't get me wrong, I do enjoy Letterman - he's funny and THAT'S why we tune in - to see his wry, sarcastic, unpredictable antics - he's the King of the Quick One Line Shtick. Leno is tremendously funny as well but turns it off & on when appropriate; i.e., monologue storytelling jokes - he's the King of Running Story Punch Line. I think it's easier to be at ease with Leno's style as the interviewee can relax, tell their stories, promote their latest and not feel a line will be delivered any moment at their expense to make their host look good. Seeing Tori perform & interview on both shows several times - both live & on the tele - I think its clear who she is more at ease with -- Leno. Just Moi Opinion Toodles ~ MysT *** In a message dated 4/13/01 10:45:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:10:19 EDT From: UnderH20thing@aol.com Subject: Re: query on TA's performance on The View About the view performance, they did talk to her a little bit. Lisa Ling just did not know how Tori was to interview and I think Tori knew that because she kind of played around with her for a little. Lisa Ling asked the usual question," Where do you draw inspiration for your music?" BLAH! Like she hasn't been asked that before. So in her usual Tori-esque way she answered,"Food." Then Lisa Ling made an even dumber comment when she said, "That must have been a great plate of lasagna you had before the show." HAR! HAR! HAR! It was really bad and you could tell that Tori wasn't comfortable there, at least not as comfortable as when she is with David Letterman and sometimes even Leno. Hope that helps... Oh, and this isn't word for word accurate, just off the top of my head. ...till next time see you in the dreamtime... Glitter Girl >> ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #68 ************************************