From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V5 #274 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, December 21 2000 Volume 05 : Number 274 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Morning sickness ~ [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Response to Richard Handal, H. G. ~ [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] re: What's this TVAB @ 142.00?!? [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Re: Morning sickness ~ [HPMolly@aol.com] Re: Morning sickness ~ [Prntr66051@aol.com] Fwd: Morning sickness ~ [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] OT: Rob Buck Of 10,000 Maniacs Passed Away [AnotherPilot@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:20:23 EST From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Morning sickness ~ Hi ya EWF ~ Whoever said morning sickness doesn't usually occur early on in a pregnancy... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay NOT true. Ladies who have been pregnant speak up please. Many women first suspect of their condition by the new stomach churning blaahs they feel early on. Not necessarily in the morning either. Some get it at night, some when they smell a particular food they previously loved, some wake up in the middle of the night and make a mad dash to the porcelain constitutional. Some get "morning sickness" for a week and never again, some don't get it until right before delivery, some get it the morning after a baby was conceived. Some first trimester, some second trimester and some third. Some poor souls have it throughout the entire pregnancy. One pregnancy may have gone completely morning sickness free while IT takes up seemingly permanent residency in the second or third, etc., pregnancy. I think morning sickness is like "The Pregnancy Glow" - some women have it throughout and some for one day a week or a single trimester. Nope, morning sickness isn't in any way predictable, though I sure can remember thinking I wished it was. Its a fun world where you don't know to schedule appointments because you just have no idea how you will feel on said day :-( My first pregnancy was morning sickness free, my second it was prominent in the first and third trimesters and my third pregnancy it came and went at will. I'm not basing my words here on my experience but on learned knowledge. Pick up a PARENTS magazine or one of Dr Brazeltons books on pregnancy and read for yourself. Maybe Tori was emotional & hormonal that night. Maybe it was something else. Tori also cried during "Winter" at the first GREEK show in Los Angeles '98. Those of us close enough could see her body shaking and hear her making small whimpering sounds as her head was below the mic. I have no idea why she was upset nor do I think its any of my business. As we sat there listening to her weep I knew I wanted to give her a hug. Whatever it was, it was private. A few nights earlier I witnessed her rock the house down at the Anaheim POND and the second GREEK show was also a fun blast. For whatever reason that one night something was emotional, and it was all hers. Not that I didn't feel for her sorrow, just that I respect her right to privacy. She had her husband, crew, band and friends to be her personal support - all we could do was hope our compassion & concern was reaching her. It was an odd night all in all anyway. Life in waves. Ebbing & Flowing Toodles ~ MysT *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:20:33 EST From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Response to Richard Handal, H. G. ~ Richard & EWF ~ I am somewhat new to the Online aspect of Tori, a couple years, but in no way a newbie to Tori herself. I've been a fan since Under The Pink first came out. I am also, as Richard puts it, an "insaniac collector." I collect for the sheer joy of it and my growing collection occupies many, many large Rubbermaid containers & poster tubes in a corner of my home. I'm getting married next year and so the stuff stays safely & protectively put away but plans are being made to showcase pieces in the new home, rotating things as to put it all up would mean every room being Tori and Jim and I do have other interests. In NO WAY does my collection resemble a shrine. I collect, much like others collect baseball cards, Frank Sinatra records, music boxes, porcelain dolls, coins or snowglobes. What I have invested in my stuff - time and money - is as worthwhile to me as another persons desire to own a thousand pairs of shoes. It is what it is. I don't "get" the shoe thing and they don't "get" my Tori thing. It's as it should be. Tori is a human being. Albeit very talented, but simply a person nonetheless. We garner what we garner from those around us. As Buddhist theology would say - It's no accident we encounter the people and things we do to learn and grow. It's at least put in our path, whether we choose to learn and grow is up to us. Tori & her music is part of my path. Collecting Tori gives me joy. Just as my Hunny gets joy from watching his beloved soccer/football team, Manchester United, play. Others get Tori joy from boots, others with meet & greets, others with watching a song evolve over a tour. To each his own - happily. There is no hierarchy here. None is better than another. Enjoy Tori in anyway that feels right to you fellow EWF. As long as it doesn't step on another's toes I think it's grand :-) And Richard... it's so unnecessary to "preach" to me. I see you better now. Time for bed Toodles ~ MysT MysT's recommendation: Rent "Magnolia" *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:40:33 EST From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: re: What's this TVAB @ 142.00?!? Hi Wendi & EWF ~ In a message dated 12/19/00 10:32:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, "wendi smith" writes: << he came across a listing of To Venus and Back that was priced at $141.97. It had no description listed, but the UPC is 76648551782. >> My guess is that it's the TVAB Limited Edition walnut set with carved/burned in pic of Tori. Below is Amazons description of it. Though the UPC doesn't match it might have its own through Amazon. They sell it for 134.99 Editorial Reviews Album Description Tori's 1999 outing in a special, limited edition box set made of walnut & featuring felted feet and wells for CDs, plus a brass plaque. The hinged lid has a realistic wood-carved picture of the hit vocalist. The wooden box is 6.5 inches x 12 inches in size, just like 1998's Sarah McLachlan wooden box set. Only 250 copies are being pressed! 24 tr acks, including 'Glory Of The '80s' and 'Bliss'. Guessing Toodles ~ MysT *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:43:10 EST From: HPMolly@aol.com Subject: Re: Morning sickness ~ i can agree with Mys T about the first show at the greek on 9.22.98. tori was very emotional that night. she didnt really interact with the crowd that much (except when the speakers popped loudly during Bells For Her), and her overall mood seemed somber. secret time was especially poignant. she told the audience she was going to do a song that she had stopped playing "for certain reasons" and she launched right into MAAG. i think those of you who were there remember that some jackass near the front of the audience cheered right after tori sang "as he buttoned down his pants." whether he was drunk or clearly missing the point of the song (or most likely both), he ony served to intensify her sadness. she played Winter after MAAG and she was visibly shaken. i was close enough to see her trembling a bit and i could definitely hear her voice cracking. all in all, it was very emotional and touching and i dont think many audience membered left un-moved. whether it was the emotional drain of MAAG, or some other circumstances surrounding that night, there was something in the air that night that made the concert one i will never forget. .......billowing out to somewhere........ - -molly ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:30:51 EST From: Prntr66051@aol.com Subject: Re: Morning sickness ~ I really think it depends on if you are having a boy or a girl. My wife said she was furiously sick when she was pregant with her daughter. They say if you are having a boy, you dont get sick as much or sometimes at all. We just lost a baby that was 9 weeks old and my wife wasnt sick a single day. Andy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------------------------------------------- Ive a suggestion to keep you all occupied....learn to swim Any kind of touch I think is better than none even upside down She lived like a murder but she died just like suicide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:02:40 EST From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Fwd: Morning sickness ~ Molly! OMG! We felt the exact thing! When I was asked by Allison Beltz to write something for Chicken Soup for the EWF Soul book I chose to write about that nite. I'll attach what I wrote. I even mentioned the "YEEEAAAHHHH!" asshole and the pain we all felt and how Tori handled him. Incredible My Sister ~ VERY Cool! Wow Toodles ~ MysT *** In a message dated 12/20/00 1:43:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, HPMolly@aol.com writes: << Subj: Re: Morning sickness ~ Date: 12/20/00 1:43:10 PM Pacific Standard Time From: HPMolly@aol.com To: Mysterilady2001, precious-things@smoe.org To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org i can agree with Mys T about the first show at the greek on 9.22.98. tori was very emotional that night. she didnt really interact with the crowd that much (except when the speakers popped loudly during Bells For Her), and her overall mood seemed somber. secret time was especially poignant. she told the audience she was going to do a song that she had stopped playing "for certain reasons" and she launched right into MAAG. i think those of you who were there remember that some jackass near the front of the audience cheered right after tori sang "as he buttoned down his pants." whether he was drunk or clearly missing the point of the song (or most likely both), he ony served to intensify her sadness. she played Winter after MAAG and she was visibly shaken. i was close enough to see her trembling a bit and i could definitely hear her voice cracking. all in all, it was very emotional and touching and i dont think many audience membered left un-moved. whether it was the emotional drain of MAAG, or some other circumstances surrounding that night, there was something in the air that night that made the concert one i will never forget. .......billowing out to somewhere........ -molly >> [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of MYEWFB~1.JPG] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:47:14 EST From: AnotherPilot@aol.com Subject: OT: Rob Buck Of 10,000 Maniacs Passed Away Hello Everyone!! I have some somber news. I know that a bunch of Toriphiles were also fans of the 10,000 Maniacs before (and some, even after) Natalie Merchant left the group as the lead singer. Yesterday, Rob Buck, who was an amazing guitarist for the group, passed away yesterday around 5PM in Pittsbrugh. Thought I'd pass along the news to all of the 10,000 Maniac fans on the list. Til the Chicken..., Michael *~Thoughts Right Now...What Will Become of Me?*~ - --Tori Amos - Thoughts-- ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V5 #274 *************************************